The Enzo Thread

[Tommy Fresh]

At least if we'd of gone for Parker we'd be hearing his interviews over songs by The Streets

[Sunbury Fox]

50 minutes ago, dmayne7 said:

Yet again he thinks we played well. There's a time and a place for not saying it how it is but he's said that for 40 odd games even when we've been poor. Desperately want a manager who's transparent to break up the smoke and mirrors of this club

Wow, can't believe he thinks that was good. We were very unlucky to lose to Leeds and to a degree to Bristol City and Boro, as we missed multiple sitters in both games, despite being poor on the whole. But tonight, against an unbelievably limited team at this level, we were abysmal. Still don't think we deserved to lose but we certainly didn't deserve to win. It was even worse than our performance against QPR and I really hope he is saying something different in the dressing room. 

[F T Fagos]

3 minutes ago, Tommy Fresh said:

At least if we'd of gone for Parker we'd be hearing his interviews over songs by The Streets

Yeah, but we're stuck with Enzo, so dry your eyes mate...

[dylanlegend]

IMO it’s time for some experience… Albrighton and Coady 

[HankMarvin]

He has gone from being compared to a Ferrari to sleep inducing chamomile tea 

[dmayne7]

1 hour ago, Fear Of The Fox said:

He's probably spending hours reading our posts here. If we start now collectively praising this "style" and "philosophy" he will play a 3-5-2 or 3-4-1-2 next game. He's like a teenager. 

That would be great 

[00rawat]

50 minutes ago, funkyrobot said:

It’s ok to counter attack in the prem against teams who are better footballers and who will dominate possession. Dropping down the league with our squad, It would be quite difficult for us to not dominate possession in The Championship because we are a big club in this league and so the majority of teams sit deep and want us to have the ball. You can only counter attack if the other team is coming forward. Our problem is what we do in possession. We are too slow, too predictable, not incisive enough, don’t take enough shots at goal and miss absolute sitters. On top of that we take unbelievable risks defensively and don’t close down quick enough around the edge of our box! 

Yeah also another problem this season we are so slow to the press, multiple times I've noticed how defensively we are conceding outside the box often worldies, once I can accept, but multiple times during  the season, now there is a definite problem for me, another thing that annoys me, is how he just let's things just play instead of changing things, ie formation, players, come on how stubborn can you really be?, don't get me started on the  10 - 15 subs  mins he does every game. 🤬🤬🤬

[Nod.E]

17 minutes ago, Sunbury Fox said:

Wow, can't believe he thinks that was good. We were very unlucky to lose to Leeds and to a degree to Bristol City and Boro, as we missed multiple sitters in both games, despite being poor on the whole. But tonight, against an unbelievably limited team at this level, we were abysmal. Still don't think we deserved to lose but we certainly didn't deserve to win. It was even worse than our performance against QPR and I really hope he is saying something different in the dressing room. 

People take manager interviews too literally. 

 

He probably thought it was shite, but he doesn't strike me as the type of manager to go in depth in interviews, even less to publicly throw his players under the bus. 

 

Personally I think that's a refreshing change from the previous administration.

[Gubbins]

Here we are, 5 games to go, top of the league and yet the majority of us are pissed off, miserable and would happily see the back of the manager. Surely this situation has never happened before in football! And it's not entitlement either as far as I'm concerned.

 

It's been a uniquely unenjoyable season due to the style of play and In my 32 seasons bar the ones that ended in relegation this is probably the season I've disliked going the most which is incredible bearing in mind there's a decent chance we could finish champions!

 

Pretty clear as well from the reaction on here over the last few weeks and the murmurs of discontent throughout the whole season that Maresca will not last long here. Despite what some football hipsters tell you his football is dull and shite and he increasingly looks like what he is, a coach promoted beyond his means. The rapport with the fans just isn't there to pull him through any particularly long period of bad form. Hel be long gone by next Xmas regardless of what happens.

[Sol thewall Bamba]

36 minutes ago, Tuna said:

Where did the cartoon ZZZ's come from in the thread title 

Judging by some (now deleted) tweets from the Foxestalk account this evening, the admin.

[BenTheFox]

This bloke's football allows shite like what we played against tonight to drag us down to their level. Genuinely think that ****ing Dean Smith would have gotten this team up. 

Edited 9 April 2024 by BenTheFox

[dillonpanthers87]

7 minutes ago, 00rawat said:

Yeah also another problem this season we are so slow to the press, multiple times I've noticed how defensively we are conceding outside the box often worldies, once I can accept, but multiple times during  the season, now there is a definite problem for me, another thing that annoys me, is how he just let's things just play instead of changing things, ie formation, players, come on how stubborn can you really be?, don't get me started on the  10 - 15 subs  mins he does every game. 🤬🤬🤬

Agreed, and that's the quality of the average player today - you give the space away, a decent player will hit it and be close. It happens so often to us, even if it doesn't go in. Terrible post I know but I'm half asleep 

[Uncle Monty]

3 minutes ago, Gubbins said:

Here we are, 5 games to go, top of the league and yet the majority of us are pissed off, miserable and would happily see the back of the manager. Surely this situation has never happened before in football! And it's not entitlement either as far as I'm concerned.

 

It's been a uniquely unenjoyable season due to the style of play and In my 32 seasons bar the ones that ended in relegation this is probably the season I've disliked going the most which is incredible bearing in mind there's a decent chance we could finish champions!

 

Pretty clear as well from the reaction on here over the last few weeks and the murmurs of discontent throughout the whole season that Maresca will not last long here. Despite what some football hipsters tell you his football is dull and shite and he increasingly looks like what he is, a coach promoted beyond his means. The rapport with the fans just isn't there to pull him through any particularly long period of bad form. Hel be long gone by next Xmas regardless of what happens.

I was thinking earlier about this team being one of the worst I've seen apart from the relegation teams, which is mad given we are top. Maybe because I got caught up on the hype to start off with? 

 

The style of football is on par with Rodgers ball for me, maybe even worse. 

 

****in turgid. No urgency, until the last minute of every game.

[Guest Basildon Fox]

Any tactic where you take more risk in defence than you do in the attacking third is never going to be sustainable unless you attack with intent once you beat the press. 

 

It is funny how the derision from the football snobs that was evident in the first 6 months has suddenly disappeared. Where the know it alls now? Tell me that I am wrong and it is the only way to play?  Millwall just shithoused us and we just tippy tapped our way to nowhere.

 

Sick of seeing this bollocks. Bar for the odd game this season, it has given me no joy at all. I am all for dominating with the ball but this football is not dominating anything.

 

We have 2 full backs who would have a field day if they were allowed to overlap and be higher up the pitch but instead one goes into a defensive midfield position and the other barely gets past the halfway line and if he does he the turns 99% of the time and passes back.

[Nod.E]

1 minute ago, Basildon Fox said:

Any tactic where you take more risk in defence than you do in the attacking third is never going to be sustainable unless you attack with intent once you beat the press. 

 

It is funny how the derision from the football snobs that was evident in the first 6 months has suddenly disappeared. Where the know it alls now? Tell me that I am wrong and it is the only way to play?  Millwall just shithoused us and we just tippy tapped our way to nowhere.

 

Sick of seeing this bollocks. Bar for the odd game this season, it has given me no joy at all. I am all for dominating with the ball but this football is not dominating anything.

 

We have 2 full backs who would have a field day if they were allowed to overlap and be higher up the pitch but instead one goes into a defensive midfield position and the other barely gets past the halfway line and if he does he the turns 99% of the time and passes back.

Do you think full backs bombing on and leaving Faes and Vestergaard as our centre halves to beat is a solution that's likely to end well?

 

Who are they bombing on to provide crosses for? Think we sold Hirst.

 

I'm not a football snob, I just don't think that would work mate.

[HybridFox]

When the ball hits your head as you'd gone back to bed, it's Maresca 🎵

[ozleicester]

Been calling this fraud out for months. Like with Rodgers, the happy clappers defend defend defend.

Even when we win we are boring to watch, when we lose it is excrutiating.

Enzo needed an experienced head alongside who was confident to let him know when he is making mistakes and when he needs to think about changing his approach, instead weve given the kid the candy shop.

If we fall over the line and get promotion... I hope we are planning a rapid replacement.

[Dan]

It's quite incredible that after winning 13 of our first 14 games and being on course to break the points record as recently as mid February that I'd argue he's probably been a net negative. It was dull but efficient early on. Now it's just dull and largely shit.

[Mickyblueeyes]

The problem I have is plan A when it works is not a bad plan. It’s a style, which flows and with purpose. 
 

My problem is, this idea that you have a philosophy and never move away from it. It’s happened so often this season it’s crazy. How many times has Enzo inspired a change. A poor first half met with an energetic  second ? Even today, we conceded and for 15 mins, kept doing what we had been failing to do. We didn’t have a shot in anger.

 

That tells me, this is a man who is out of his depth. A Rob Kelly but with more money, better players at this disposal. We can’t fill this squad with expensive stars (which is what playing plan A consistently without change needs).

 

Enzo isn’t our saviours but we need him to sit there for 5 games and get us over the line. But the board, and particularly the DOF should be considering better candidates to suit our needs for next season, regardless of league. Enzo isn’t ready for this level and until he can admit that, he never will be. I feel silly feeling like this in a title chase but it’s so many times this season where you look at a result and just sit there and think, do something mr manager! 
 

That was a horrendous performance and again I’m sat there ready to criticise the players but fundamentally, I think the manager has let the squad down again. 
 

 

[Gamble92]

2 hours ago, Nod.E said:

Do you think full backs bombing on and leaving Faes and Vestergaard as our centre halves to beat is a solution that's likely to end well?

 

Who are they bombing on to provide crosses for? Think we sold Hirst.

 

I'm not a football snob, I just don't think that would work mate.

Do you feel like we are any less exposed playing the way we do when we lose the ball? For the amount we are actually risking it less despite the term risk and reward being used so much. Poor teams have picked the ball up off us and been 3 on 3 often. 

 

A high tempo game with players of our calibre would have scored shedloads of goals and for the mistakes we'd make I'm guessing we'd be far too in front to care. 

 

This philosophy seems to cancel out more risk and work on the theory with less ball poor teams are far less likely to score and we will of course inevitably bundle a couple in. Been far too many nights like to tonight where that isn't the case. This isn't a decent squad being made into a great one by tactics, it's a great one (for this level) being made into a decent one by tactical naivety. 

[Trelleh]

Enzo maresca anagram:

 

eczema on ars 

 

 

 

explains why it’s all so rash.

[Chrysalis]

Didnt watch game, but see much more possession but less shots on target, so wasteful use of the ball I take from that.

[Dan]

Interesting how many I'm reading on here that aren't usually that critical that have had enough. That's usually a pretty telling sign.

 

Just cross our fingers we fluke our way over the line and then look elsewhere in the summer.

[Lambert09]

I feel a bit conned to be honest, i believed in enzo, I really did. But there’s just no plan B and there never will be under him. 

 

Even against Birmingham, his subs were all 20 minutes later than they should have been.  He has too much patience and football sometimes has moments that don’t allow for that. You have to adapt and find different ways to be successful and he’s just not pragmatic enough. 

 

 

Edited 10 April 2024 by Lambert09

[Dan]

6 hours ago, chapero82 said:

The owners demand this style of football which makes it even worse as we are stuck with it

Another reason we need the delusional ****wits out of here.