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Why is this all going t### up ?

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2 hours ago, Wasyls Pec Deck said:

Exactly. And then it makes me think concerns about fitness ring true because everyone looks leggy. This is such a gruelling league in terms of games and He doesn't rotate enough - so perhaps unsurprising people look knackered. Let’s bring players in with something to prove who have that little bit more hunger to hold down a place - Souttar, Coady, Ben Nelson, Yunus etc. Maybe even some wildcards like Alves - what do we have to lose at this stage when we are sinking.

Very true. We lack energy, even yesterday after an international break. Wilf was knackered, probably shouldn't have started. 

 

We looked unfit last season & are looking the same now. It is a long season, that's why rotation is important. 

 

Enzo must make changes on Monday, if he doesn't he really does need to look in the mirror if things go belly up again. 

 

 

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Our forwards can’t score and haven’t really been able to consistently all season. Aside from that, Enzo’s game

management leaves some to be desired. We seem to have a fragile mentality despite being favourites in almost every game.

 

 

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Casaidei recall didn’t help. He put pressure on the starting midfielders and was starting to find his feet. Also, injures to Ricardo and Ndidi hasn’t been great. Even Doyle plays the role better than Justin. Think it’s about time Cody started ahead of Vesty as well now.
 

Enzo refusing to put on a second striker when we are losing is also a bit mental 

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On 29/03/2024 at 14:50, marcymarc666 said:

From a comfortable 17 point lead only a matter of months ago, we're now clearly going to be in a 3 team slugfest for the final two positions.

What's happened ? Is it :

Tactics

Lack of confidence

Bad luck 

Too much chopping and changing

Too much fortune in early games

Bad management 

Something else 

or a combination of all of those things ?

 

Your thoughts....

Tactics: No Plan B, and Enzo's inability to change from something that clearly doesn't work. Can see why he hasn't been picked as manager at a higher level.

 

Lack of confidence: Across the park. Easy to be swaggering when you're winning, even when you're playing honking football. But that just papers over the cracks. Confidence is shot, on and off the pitch.

 

Bad luck: Used to be this. Officiating at this level is horrendous, but that's not the reason we have hit a rough run of form. It's mostly our own making now, we make our own luck.

 

Too much chopping and changing: If anything, not enough. Some players should be nowhere near the Starting XI on current form. Then again, Enzo's reputation for abysmal and mind-boggling substitutions speaks for itself. So maybe keep as is and actually pick a decent line-up for a change. E.g. No more Hamza, stick the useless sod in the reserves.

 

Too much fortune in early games: Not really. We just hadn't been worked out yet. New manager, new faces, new tactics, new Leicester, of sorts. Now that's nothing new anymore, it's as you were and we quite frankly, look shit.

 

Bad management: You betcha. From the manager upwards. I'm not sure what difference changing the manager would do at this stage, probably na-da. But the whole hierarchy needs a shake-up, and Enzo too if he doesn't change his way. The fanbase are turning on him and this is a warning if anything to do what he hasn't done all season, and try something different before we complete the seemingly unthinkable bottle-job we have started and continue to execute.

 

End of the day, it's easy to just say nowt if we are winning and cruising towards record totals at breakneck pace. But we're not and that's why conversations like these happen, and suddenly you can see why the Marescalator has well and truly started to cough and splutter.

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9 hours ago, STEVIE B said:

Very true. We lack energy, even yesterday after an international break. Wilf was knackered, probably shouldn't have started. 

 

We looked unfit last season & are looking the same now. It is a long season, that's why rotation is important. 

 

Enzo must make changes on Monday, if he doesn't he really does need to look in the mirror if things go belly up again. 

 

 

Ndidi and Faes have just played two games in fairly quick succession for their country's. The former is unforgivable for me as the dope has been out injured for a long period, since when was that ever going to be a good idea! Players are responsible for managing themselves too and in his case he needs to remember who pays his wages! 

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It's simple we have a inexperienced poor tactician manger. Yes his style of play caught out a lot of teams to start off with but it was figured out very quickly.

 

The problem is if we do not sack him after we lose to Norwich it will cost us much more than not getting promoted.

 

We need to make the gamble sack him and get someone in with a attacking style of play to win games and stop this bullshit passing the ball around the back

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Maybe the manager and a lot of the playing staff want to leave due to the recent news and have thrown the towel in.

 

Not going up means we will have no choice but to accept any offers that come our way :dunno:

 

 

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Looking at them It's hard to fathom how Vardy missed three clear cut chances, that quite honestly you'd have put money on any striker worth their salt scoring. Lets not deny the fact, it's been like it all season long, not just Vardy but chance after chance after chance has gone begging. If a quarter of good missed goal scoring opportunities had been converted we'd still be top comfortably.

There have been some absolute howlers at the back too, not as telling as the missed chances and every team has them, but christ alive they've conceded a few soft goals, almost always due to bad decision making/ lack of conviction.

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13 minutes ago, Fox85 said:

It's simple we have a inexperienced poor tactician manger. Yes his style of play caught out a lot of teams to start off with but it was figured out very quickly.

 

The problem is if we do not sack him after we lose to Norwich it will cost us much more than not getting promoted.

 

We need to make the gamble sack him and get someone in with a attacking style of play to win games and stop this bullshit passing the ball around the back

If there were 12 games left I'd probably agree, but it's way too late now. 

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3 hours ago, Sionnach gorm said:

Perhaps Cesare Casadei was our Rabbit’s Foot?  It all went south when he left…:ph34r:

Cassdei left

We’re out of luck

Enzo put his big boy pants on

And we’re going going up! 

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10 hours ago, Beechey said:

Our forwards can’t score and haven’t really been able to consistently all season. Aside from that, Enzo’s game

management leaves some to be desired. We seem to have a fragile mentality despite being favourites in almost every game.

 

 

If you watch this then you should realise the players are also largely at fault.

 

Yes the system is rigid and more fresh subs can be made but the chances we miss is absolutely criminal. That's not on Enzo yet fans don't seem to consider this.

 

As Enzo said it would be more concerning if we weren't creating chances but we do. The fundamental fault is we can't put the ball in the net which has resulted us in not winning recently 

 

Fix this fault and we will create enough over the rest of season and win enough games to go up.

 

It's down to the players to start also taking some responsibility.

 

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5 minutes ago, TrickyTrevLeftPeg said:

If you watch this then you should realise the players are also largely at fault.

 

Yes the system is rigid and more fresh subs can be made but the chances we miss is absolutely criminal. That's not on Enzo yet fans don't seem to consider this.

 

As Enzo said it would be more concerning if we weren't creating chances but we do. The fundamental fault is we can't put the ball in the net which has resulted us in not winning recently 

 

Fix this fault and we will create enough over the rest of season and win enough games to go up.

 

It's down to the players to start also taking some responsibility.

 

But it is on Enzo….. he’s the coach, he is the mentor, inspiration and leader…….. how many times have you seen down the years when managers start to lose their touch strikers stop scoring goals…. And then the reverse when a new manager inspires them. 
 

No Enzo can’t put the ball on the net, but like I said yesterday, if the players are playing with doubt then they are likely to underperform.

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1 minute ago, Pliskin said:

But it is on Enzo….. he’s the coach, he is the mentor, inspiration and leader…….. how many times have you seen down the years when managers start to lose their touch strikers stop scoring goals…. And then the reverse when a new manager inspires them. 
 

No Enzo can’t put the ball on the net, but like I said yesterday, if the players are playing with doubt then they are likely to underperform.

What a load of old tosh. 

 

If that's the case every simple barren spell for a striker is down to the manager and then they need a new manager to inspire them? It doesn't work like that.

 

Additionally it's not even down to just the strikers. Multiple players in multiple positions have missed chances. 

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1 minute ago, TrickyTrevLeftPeg said:

What a load of old tosh. 

 

If that's the case every simple barren spell for a striker is down to the manager and then they need a new manager to inspire them? It doesn't work like that.

 

Additionally it's not even down to just the strikers. Multiple players in multiple positions have missed chances. 

It’s not tosh, it’s psychology… there’s multiple reasons why players can start missing easy chances, and in our case it’s a lack of confidence and belief. We’ve collapsed and in our case it’s up to the manager to inspire the players back into form, not beat them with the same stick repeatedly like he is currently doing. 
 

I have absolutely zero faith Enzo will get them going again, because he’s too stubborn and lacks the experience to impart onto his players. 

 

Sometimes players can play themselves back into form, but that tends to be when their poor form is their issue, our poor form is circumstantial and we need the coaching staff to step up and sort it out, but the head coach won’t. 
 

Incidentally the only striker I can see scoring goals in this set up is Cannon, injury aside the manager appears not to fancy him. 
 

Kalechi is usually good under pressure too, but again, injury has largely halted that. 

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This issue about us missing clear chances is a very real one and could well make all the difference this season.

I kinda blame this on the club though, to some extent.

To STILL rely on Vardy as the first choice striker, at his age, again shows a recruitment policy that has been highly suspect. Daka has proven to be completely hit and miss. Nacho just isn’t a twenty goal a season striker. Cannon… I don’t know enough about yet to make much of a view.

The club just hasn’t acted in this area enough. Daka should have been sold, same with Iheanacho. This would have potentially freed up funds to buy a better striker. Or at least, one in better form. All we’ve done is stick with the status quo and arrived at a point where Vardy, who should now be used as a sub, continues to be the best of the crop.

Again, rubbish planning from the club

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15 hours ago, Mr Weller 2 said:

Presumably all the managers of teams below us have also been found out. That’s a lot of found out managers.

We have the best squad kn league since Christmas we are in relegation form 

 

So to reverse your poor point is 

 

The managers above him in 2024 are doing better 

 

He is one dimensional and incapable of changing the outcome of games mid game 

 

Sorry but he is a busted flush now 

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1 minute ago, the draper said:

We have the best squad kn league since Christmas we are in relegation form 

 

So to reverse your poor point is 

 

The managers above him in 2024 are doing better 

 

He is one dimensional and incapable of changing the outcome of games mid game 

 

Sorry but he is a busted flush now 

WE DON'T!!!!!!

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It really does feel like the impending PSR breach and subsequent points deduction has ripped the heart and spirit from the management and squad, at the start of the season there seemed a long term project was in place and everyone seemed to buy into it, however fast forward a few months and it has literally turned to rat shit, highly likely if we do go up we will have a significant points deduction and likely to have to sell some of our better players, hardly conducive to driving a positive culture. 
 

All the positivity has been destroyed and looks to be replaced by a group now looking for the exit door after being sold an initial dream that has now turned into an impending nightmare, even if successful at best it’s going to be a long hard season trying to fend off relegation with a severely weakened squad and the likelihood of quite a few morale sapping hanmerings as we will be woefully ill equipped. 
 

Soul destroying how the club has managed to shoot itself so badly in the foot. So many look to have  mentally checked out now. 

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Because we are Leicester everyone's 2nd team and all that.  When we do something different the papers are all over it because I guess lots of people read it.

Enzos "new" style of play,  all the ManCity youth links all our characters etc we were in the papers all the time. It got overhyped especially when we were doing well (loads of points clear) and I think we all had this idea that our players had to learn this super complex new thing that again was widely reported as genius. And that it would take time to become fully brilliant. But that it was brilliant wasn't questioned (if you did question it you were a luddite who probably wanted brexit).

So i blame the polarising culture we live in, truth is somewhere in between but it is impossible to see/hear because of all the shouting/definitive language used to describe us.

 

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12 hours ago, dylanlegend said:

Casaidei recall didn’t help. He put pressure on the starting midfielders and was starting to find his feet. Also, injures to Ricardo and Ndidi hasn’t been great. Even Doyle plays the role better than Justin. Think it’s about time Cody started ahead of Vesty as well now.
 

Enzo refusing to put on a second striker when we are losing is also a bit mental 

the thing is, it's about using the players at your disposal to get the results, and we have a more than a capable squad. You cannot underestimate what 3 or 4 fresh players can do at 60 minutes

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As a reference

 

Transfermrkt has our squad valued at €211m currently, Leeds €206

 

Leicester https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/leicester-city/startseite/verein/1003/saison_id/2023

Leeds https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/leeds-united/startseite/verein/399

(Some of the Leeds seem a little low, but that could be due to my case of Fox Fatigue)

 

Also €75m of that is out of contract in the Summer including Wilf and Kelechi, so this is all a bit sad based on our trajectory of not so long ago :(

 

 

 

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