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Cooper - OUT

By Sly, in Leicester City Forum

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murphy

murphy

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2 minutes ago, Bob Weasel Fox said:

He is the coach paid millions of pounds to coach a better defensive system 

 

Can you really defend him? Honestly?

I was talking about the team.

Bob Weasel Fox

Bob Weasel Fox

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1 minute ago, murphy said:

I was talking about the team.

Yes I know 

 

and I'm talking about the manager 

 

Are you really Cooper in? Honestly? 
 

what has he shown? What positives are there? Honestly?

Hirsty The Blue 94

Hirsty The Blue 94

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Not into all the jibes about the way he looks, and it doesn't really bother me as much as some clearly about the Forest connection, given that our title winning captain and one of our greatest ever managers are Forest legends.

What does bother me is what is happening on the pitch. Its been clear for everyone to see just watching the games and looking at the stats that an absolute hammering was on the horizon, I think had United not took their foot off the gas in the 2nd half it could have been much more. It feels like 75% of the goals we have conceded have been down our right hand side and yet we persist with this bombed on full back and get caught again and again. To compound that, I wouldn't mind if we were open and expansive and just accepted we might get whacked a few times a season, but we hardly create anything and have been incredibly efficient in our finishing to score goals.

It may be looking back with rose tinted glasses, or expectations may have been lower, but when we came up under Nige we were probably on the same points total as we are now comparatively, but it never felt we were just clinging on for dear life and being outplayed for most of every single game. That squad in comparison to this was far inferior as well, this side is filled largely with Internationals, experienced Premier League players or from comparative top European leagues. I don't know whether that says more about the gulf in class between the Championship and the Premier League these days than back then, but having watched the likes of Bournemouth, Forest, Fulham, Palace I haven't thought they are streets ahead of us in terms of quality of player, which only points to one thing and that's the coaching staff.

When we hired Cooper I was slightly deflated and thought it was an acceptance of relegation but we will have a fight and see where it takes us, given a double figure points deduction could come our way, but would back him to have a crack. The goalposts as we all know have moved now though, and the list of managers who may want the gig is broader than what it could have been. Moyes is obviously the quick fix to keep you in the division but there are plenty of managers in Europe who probably wouldn't have been interested in the summer who may be now.

That being said, if we beat Ipswich on Saturday and build a 6 point or so buffer between us and the drop zone then Cooper will still be here for the run of more difficult games, where that buffer will be eaten into.

I don't think this forum represents what happens in the stands though, at full time at Forest players and managers were clapped off all around me with just the odd voice calling out the crap, and they were looked at as if they had 2 heads.

Can also see clear alienation between certain players and Cooper, when he walked through the door he said he wanted players to take control of things in game and won't coach them to death, yet it seems anyone with a bit of an edge to them, Vestergaard, Winks, Fatawu, Mavididi have all at some points in the season been bemusingly benched, the last beacon is Vardy, if he starts to turn on you, then you're toast as he is the direct line to Top.

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Dan

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Dumb appointment from a dumb club.

 

Cooper out. Rudkin out.

 

Get on with it Top - if you care.

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Pliskin

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It’s all well and good the coopites blaming the players. But a fair few of of our players have all got a good amount of premier league and European experience….. they’re not this bad….. a half decent coach would have them more organised and better defensively than this…….. 

 

It has been said a thousand times on here, Cooper is a terrible coach, he is well out of his depth and he simply can’t organise a team of players and he can’t get the balance of this squad right…….. 

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Dan

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7 hours ago, SemperEadem said:

Club feels so stale again.

It never wasn't last season. Just masked by playing in a league we were laughably more resourced in so the wins were always likely to come - in that league through our own ineptness of course.

 

It's hard to get angry anymore. We demonstrated two years ago the single most disgusting incompetence you will ever see and nobody paid a price for it. When their floor is that low I don't know how people expect it to be any different. Cooper is a symptom of the shite above him. Get them out.

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dannythefox

dannythefox

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Last thing we need is our gaffer getting banned from the touch line. I didn’t expect anything from last night. Only positive was Ayew won’t be starting Saturday. Danny Ward shouldn’t play for the club ever again. 

teblin

teblin

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I was listening to Mondays WYS podcast and they are talking about the forest game, highlighting the defensive issues(which is fair). But talking about how good we were in possession 1st half. 
 

We had 1 shot on target in the WHOLE game. So I sadly went back and lucked at the other home games. The most shots on target we have had is 3. We have had a total of 11 shots on target in 5 home games in the league. (2.2 per game). I could understand that if we we solid and did concede chance after chance, but we’re aren’t.

 

Yes Friday was mistakes but that is a massive underlying problem here. Cooper was lucky to get 2 wins.

 

 

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Lako42

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8 hours ago, SemperEadem said:

Club feels so stale again.

When did it last not feel stale?

 

Even in the Championship season the club itself was still backwards looking 

Seventyseven

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When Cooper joined we had the happy clappers trying to make out he was good as he gave a good press interview. And as I said at the time he is very polished at talking to the media, but don’t be fooled.

 

He did a great job at getting forest up but was bloody lucky at keeping them up, they were terrible and I’m still at a loss how we finished behind them. 
 

A large amount of their fans kept him in the job as he was seen as a hero for ending 23 years outside the top flight, I get that to an extent but the club could see he wasn’t up to it. 
 

He had many shortcomings, that he doesn’t seem to have learnt from. Poor tactics, poor game management and poor subs. He was also very stubborn and played his favourites. Balde was signed on loan and couldn’t get a game ahead of Worrall or McKenna, he went to Sevilla where he’s been superb and linked with big money move to Liverpool. Same with Santos from Chelsea. He didn’t get anything out of Hudson-Odoi or Chris Wood who are thriving under Nuno. Just two away wins in 1 and a half seasons. 
 

The happy clapper Forest fans who wanted Cooper to stay can now see the difference in class they have with their manager, and we picked up the cast off. 
 

All very disappointing. 

SafewayFox

SafewayFox

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I feel like a broken record but once again his post match comments last night come across as deluded and super negative.

 

STOP talking us down as a club at any given opportunity, he is sounding like Rodgers just less obvious with his negativity and it is mirrored in how we play.

Thefox81

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21 minutes ago, dannythefox said:

Last thing we need is our gaffer getting banned from the touch line. I didn’t expect anything from last night. Only positive was Ayew won’t be starting Saturday. Danny Ward shouldn’t play for the club ever again. 

Or it could be a blessing in disguise the fraud is nowhere near the touchline 🤞🤞🤞

CosbehFox

CosbehFox

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20 minutes ago, Lako42 said:

When did it last not feel stale?

 

Even in the Championship season the club itself was still backwards looking 

For an evening in Preston. It was the perfect launch pad but within a week, the club ****ed it 

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Iwebema

Iwebema

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1 hour ago, Dan LCFC said:

It never wasn't last season. Just masked by playing in a league we were laughably more resourced in so the wins were always likely to come - in that league through our own ineptness of course.

 

It's hard to get angry anymore. We demonstrated two years ago the single most disgusting incompetence you will ever see and nobody paid a price for it. When their floor is that low I don't know how people expect it to be any different. Cooper is a symptom of the shite above him. Get them out.

Yes I think last season felt less stale because of Enzo, regardless of whether you liked or loathed the football, he very openly called out the board for not being serious, and was clearly trying to push for a higher standard behind the scenes and now we have a guy who can't believe his luck that he's a premier league manager, shouldn't be anywhere near this level, he certainly won't be challenging the board.

I think we all know where this is heading with cooper, I personally believe there is no point in persisting with it, but I do get the dilemma of not being in the bottom 3 and with a stale board in place it's very unlikely they act, but its just delaying the inevitable, whoever does come in to try and save the season whenever that is we need someone that will demand a better standard all round, not just someone who is just happy to have a job.

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Ric Flair

Ric Flair

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I'm getting to the point I'm not even that angry and annoyed. That's not because he's doing better than previously either. Just can't maintain the emotion that causes me more problems than it's worth.

 

We're not a serious club anymore.

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Lionator

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One of the reasons why Rodgers stayed for so long is that he was popular with the players. Cooper obviously isn’t so I’m hoping that is the main indicator for the board. 

leicesterseddon

leicesterseddon

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1 hour ago, teblin said:

I was listening to Mondays WYS podcast and they are talking about the forest game, highlighting the defensive issues(which is fair). But talking about how good we were in possession 1st half. 
 

We had 1 shot on target in the WHOLE game. So I sadly went back and lucked at the other home games. The most shots on target we have had is 3. We have had a total of 11 shots on target in 5 home games in the league. (2.2 per game). I could understand that if we we solid and did concede chance after chance, but we’re aren’t.

 

Yes Friday was mistakes but that is a massive underlying problem here. Cooper was lucky to get 2 wins.

 


 

People’s threshold for playing “quite well” seems to be surprisingly low and probably influenced by the OK-ish points haul this season so far, and the fact that amazingly we have somehow scored in every league game. 

 

The underlying picture (shots on target/chances created) is absolutely dire, and surely it will only be a matter of time before that bears out on results. 

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Lionator

Lionator

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1 minute ago, Super_horns said:

Not sure blaming the officials for missing an offside is going to cut much mustard when you lose 5-2?

 

https://www.manchesterworld.uk/sport/football/manchester-united/you-cant-make-a-mistake-like-that-steve-cooper-slams-really-poor-decision-in-manchester-united-win-4846953

Can either blame a linesman that makes a split second decision with lots of moving parts, who likely gets 99% of decisions correct. Or he could do some self reflection and look at the terrible choices that he is making himself. 

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AjcW

AjcW

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It's the goals conceded that worries me most, it's just not something i've thought about us being bad at for a long time. We've always kept things reasonably tight over the last 10 years! 

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Larry_LCFC

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I genuinely have no idea what any fan can like about this man? Tactically inept, very two dimensional, lacks ability to change games, awful signings, stubborn with subs, low quality football, lack of future vision. Every game is on a whim, there's no project being built here. He has not got the first clue. Terrible manager.

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