Cooper - OUT

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

41 minutes ago, Miquel The Work Geordie said:

Do some people actually believe a professional football manager who's repeatedly demonstrated how stubborn he is put that line up out last night to "appease the fans"? Not having that one bit.

If he did it’s pretty alarming, and suggests he really doesn’t know what he’s doing or used it as an experiment and now can warrant going back to being more negative.

 

I just cannot understand how a defence can be that shit. I like Faes and Okoli as a CB partnership, but we have serious problems at full back. JJ is cooked,

VK is poor and Thomas… honestly the only way forward I can see is a back 3, which suits Coady as well. Then you’re less reliant on on wingers or wing backs to defend - but luckily Abdul could do that well on one side (not sure about the other side).

 

 

[lcfcsnow]

4 minutes ago, Aleksz said:

Call me cynical but I reckon some player intervention went into playing that system (Enzo’s system) last night. 

Well that system was failing last season and failed to score against Bristol City, Millwall and Plymouth towards the end

[Claridge]

16 minutes ago, Marshall Cockney Fox said:

If you didn't think this season would be turbulent - with the good, the bad, the ugly and the shambolic. Then you were remarkably optimistic. Cooper is part of the problem. But not the whole of it. This is going to be a painful and exhausting season regardless. Just strap in and take a deep breathe.

Exactly this, our squad is very poor. apart from Mads and Abdul, I wouldn't want to buy any of our players if they played for any other prem team. If Cooper keeps this squad up then he will have done a remarkable job. Its going to be a tough ask that's for sure

[JimJams]

In slight defence of last nights performance, what was pleasing was that in the first half (that'll be a theme!) rather than just looking to stay in a game, we actually looked like a side trying to win a game of football.  It wasn't the cowardly approach we've been taking where we try and sit in for the majority of the match and hope we're still in it so we can try and nick something towards the end.  The cup game mentality of league 2 minnows vs giants that's been apparent this season in every first half bar the Palace game.  That positive note is unfortunately put to one side though when we come out of the second half and a combination of individual errors and an inability to adjust to their changes had us looking second best all over.

[Wymsey]

Hope he stays to wind-up some of the fanbase/potentially surprise them..

Edited 26 October 2024 by Wymsey

[Vazman]

1 minute ago, FOXSE said:

I think the problem some of the posters have are: a)if we did win seven or so games in a row then lost, they would then come out with the same complaints, like last season

 

B) there are posters who think we should be winning 7 games in a row, and if we aren't, they won't be happy....

 

Your over thinking things, the second half last night was a horror show, SC cannot motivate this team to put in a 90 mins shift, evidenced by every match so far including pre season which is relevant, for that reason alone he should go.

 

As for being well clear of the drop, we are only a couple of losses away from entering it, I bet you were one of the ones saying we would be ok, the season we got relegated, with a far better squad than we have now, I'm not expecting  a top half finish either, I'll settle for staying up, but we got to start seeing some 90 mins performances with an identity surely, I think secretly deep down we all knew he wouldn't be good enough, especially after Enzo's impact.

[The Doctor]

7 minutes ago, FOXSE said:

Really, I even remember posts along the lines of: well, even if it's working here, it won't in the prem, sack him in the summer and get (insert dinosaur here) in.

 

And, 'but we didn't even get 100 points'

 

Wasn't there a poll late in the season with 75% wanting him out, with about 5 games to go?

yea, and they're the same clowns currently defending Cooper, because they'd rather lose pluckily playing hoofball than play football 

[ozvaldo]

I genuinely think even Cooper doesn’t want to be here. He comes across like a real defeated loser.  Zero charisma. Incredibly passive. It’s impossible to picture him firing up the players with a team talk that’s anything beyond dull, uninspired drivel.

 

And don’t even get me started on that disaster of a coach – bandy legs and all. Watching him hobble around is painful enough; he’s clearly out of his depth. It’s embarrassing to think this guy is supposed to be improving a Premier League squad.  He possesses the strut of a man with weak bowel control, struggling to hold his stool in. 

 

It feels like we’ve reached the absolute bottom of the barrel, dragging in a bunch of Channel 4 rejects who wouldn’t cut it on "The Undateables”, and tasked them with replacing Enzo & co.

 

The sheer gap between the level we need and the mess we’ve got is beyond disgraceful.

[justfoxes]

He is so frustrating I don’t think he has a clue what his 1st 11 team is and why oh why oh why is he still bringing on that donkey Soumare when we need to fight for a point or a win the guy is useless he either just goes awol or give away fouls he’s as static as a traffic cone on the M69, can’t also see why he’s not playing Coady an ideal player who is quality and bosses the team as he’s a great captain and will certainly give players a rocket up the ar5e  something we are missing on the pitch Vardy is a Goat but he’s far too nice to players around him we need either the old school Vardy who ripped 7 shades out of his team or we need Coady to take charge.

 

Those saying give Cooper time must realise in this division we haven’t really got the luxury of time when near relegation places I know we’re not as yet but a few more awful displays last night and we’re up Schitts creak without a paddle, Top must take control and find a manager who can take our team to the next level as cooper was the only one who wanted the job when we looked like we were going to get a huge points deduction a second best if you can call that choice we Need a Moyes a potter or even Corberan time to cut our losses Top and give us a chance of staying in this Division!

[CosbehFox]

Just a bad manager 

 

No point having the debate really. The evidence is there. Forest look a completely different beast under Nuno and it’s two personnel changes 

[lcfcbluearmy]

2 hours ago, Dahnsouff said:

All irrelevant. Look at the table. No chance he gets the boot.

It's alright watch and analyse the game properly if we keep playing like that we will be fine

 

That attitude worked great for us last time

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

5 minutes ago, Wymsey said:

Hope he stays to wind-up some of the fanbase..

 

"Haha yay we lost again! This will really wind up fans of the club I support"

 

What a bizarre stance to take for a Leicester fan

[Wymsey]

2 minutes ago, Miquel The Work Geordie said:

 

"Haha yay we lost again! This will really wind up fans of the club I support"

 

What a bizarre stance to take for a Leicester fan

You imagine that no fan of LCFC would think this, to prove their family/mates wrong?

 

It seems like a few want us to lost to back up their view on the manager.

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

2 minutes ago, Wymsey said:

You imagine that no fan of LCFC would think this, to prove their family/mates wrong?

 

It seems like a few want us to lost to back up their view on the manager.

 

No, I think Leicester fans want Leicester to win brother

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

23 minutes ago, Aleksz said:

Call me cynical but I reckon some player intervention went into playing that system (Enzo’s system) last night. 

I thought that as well 

[ronnup]

1 hour ago, Fox85 said:

Was it just the players that got the back to back wins then and not the manager?

 

You cant be held responsible for individual errors 

[dannythefox]

Can’t really blame him for last night it was 3 individual errors that caused the goals, I do think we need to get Coady on the pitch though maybe in a back 3.

[whoareyaaa]

2 minutes ago, Wasyls Pec Deck said:

I thought that as well 

No idea why he has changed it, if anything we should have gone with a back 3.

 

Nuno clearly sussed us out as we was getting a lot of joy down the middle in the first half, he made the change and they battered us second half.

 

[sylofox]

25 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

How can a manager let the players choose the team

Exactly. If that is the case he should of been sacked before kick off.

[Aleksz]

5 minutes ago, Wasyls Pec Deck said:

I thought that as well 

So bizarre that all the names come in that the fans wanted and to change the system off the back of 2 wins. Reeks of it. 

[Iwebema]

26 minutes ago, Aleksz said:

Call me cynical but I reckon some player intervention went into playing that system (Enzo’s system) last night. 

For what it's worth, and I don't expect anyone to have to believe me but since you mentioned it, I had heard in reasonably good authority, that the players had a bit of an honest chat with him at half time against Southampton and that led to the complete overhaul to the set up last night.

 

I'm sort of on the fence about it, in one respect fair play to him for listening and not doubling down as I actually think it worked for the first 45, but on the other hand it doesn't fill me with confidence the players are dictating things, and when forest got wise to the tactic he was a bit lost because its not really who he is as a manager.

 

Perhaps that's just what happens in the modern game though with players, not really sure 🤷‍♀️

[Fox85]

6 minutes ago, ronnup said:

 

You cant be held responsible for individual errors 

What????????

 

So basicly if the team wins it's on Cooper and if the team loses its on the players?

 

This is what is wrong with this idiotic happy clapper fan base.

 

The tactics were off in the 2nd half and we lost because forest adapted to the game.

 

Cooper didn't because he didn't know what to do that's why we got dry F#cked in the 2nd half.

 

 

[sylofox]

27 minutes ago, Wymsey said:

Hope he stays to wind-up some of the fanbase/potentially surprise them..

So you hope we get relegated then?

[Wymsey]

2 minutes ago, sylofox said:

So you hope we get relegated then?

No.

 

It was admittedly a tongue-in-cheek post, but it wouldn't surprise me if certain 'fans' wanted Steve to struggle further to move him on.

Edited 26 October 2024 by Wymsey

[Grebfromgrebland]

Second half Forest tweaked things and had the better of us from the beginning. Cooper saw this and did nothing about it. He should've adapted tactics before the 55 minute but he didn't. 

 

My 13 year old daughter who doesn't know about football remarked how forest looked better coached and the players knew what to do in most situations. Whereas Leicester looked like they were told what position to play then just get on with it. 

 

There's no attention to detail with our passing patterns, movement defensive shape or attacking intent. Playing our best wingers is one thing but they still need a plan of how to beat the 3 players between them and the box. This is where the manager comes in with who's going to support them and ensure our defensive shape isn't compromised etc. We don't appear to have any of that with cooper. 

 

Even the players don't look bothered to interact with the manager during the game. When we were getting hammered and there was a long break in play that was our chance to fix things tactically but on one even tried. 

 

Passion can only get you so far. Tactical nouse is what we're really need right now and it's nowhere to be seen.