Clever Fox Posted 25 November 2024 Posted 25 November 2024 I feel sorry for the Club because they were blindsided by Enzo's departure to Chelsea. With the season 2 weeks away they were paniced into appointing someone. Cooper was never near the right appointment. Now I hope they either have somone lined up to take over or take there time to make the right appointment. Even if that means placing somone of the senior players temporily in charge. People like Vardy, Coady, Vesty have been around long enough to know whats required. The most important thing now is to get the Appointment right.
Vestan Pance Posted 25 November 2024 Posted 25 November 2024 47 minutes ago, foxfanazer said: Oh come on. He's stunned to lose his job? He must've been aware of the unrest between the players From a made up non-quote headline on Sky Sports. It's 2024 and I'm stunned people aren't wise to this rubbish.
sylofox Posted 25 November 2024 Posted 25 November 2024 1 hour ago, Pliskin said: You can’t just make this assumption….. there may be a reason to why top has made the decision now. We all sit here and say that he should have done this two weeks ago, yes he should, however, Top isn’t solely the owner of this club, he is also running a large business along side this and his time is split between the two… Perhaps it was as simple as, he wanted to gauge the mood of the dressing room himself prior to making a decision. Also the potential target, I know the club have been sounding out potential replacements so potentially the prospected target has only just said yes to any propositions. The preferred method would have been to sack him two weeks ago and the new manager have two weeks to work with the team, but the world and football isn’t that simple. I guess the identical situation arose at OHL as well then. I'll stick to my original theory though.
Bert Posted 25 November 2024 Posted 25 November 2024 1 hour ago, DJ Barry Hammond said: Care to explain this down right weird behaviour @Bert It was in celebration that Cooper had been sacked. I was fully clothed. 1
AjcW Posted 25 November 2024 Posted 25 November 2024 My closing point on Cooper.... on Saturday he made me long for Jannick Vestergaard. If you'd told me i'd be experiencing those feelings three years ago, i'd have taken the bottle of vodka out of your hand and checked you into the nearest rehab clinic. 3
RonnieTodger Posted 25 November 2024 Posted 25 November 2024 That night against Forest was ****ing humiliating and we all saw it coming. He was never popular, but that game was make or break. 1
Clever Fox Posted 25 November 2024 Posted 25 November 2024 Some reports suggesting we'll have an appointment before Brentford. I just hope we dont rush it and take the time to get the right Man. My choice would be Carsley or Ruud. I think they would both bring the energy neccessary to the job. Cooper is more of a slow burner. Give him time and he'll get it right. But we don't really have a lot of time. We need results and quickly, a couple before January would help. Then a few out and 1 or 2 in in January would help. Things are looking up lets enjoy the recovery.
daddylonglegs Posted 25 November 2024 Posted 25 November 2024 12 hours ago, Cadno'r Cymoedd said: Well at least now we'll see if this squad is as good as they seemingly think they are and lots on here think. No excuses here on in. It's not about the squad being brilliant, it's about getting a performance level out of the squad that we have that will sustainably lead to points. We have 10 points on the board and I don't think we could sit here with any complaints if we had 5. That is not sustainable. The management showed no sign of improving the players, or for the majority of the time even any signs of wanting to win football matches. Our squad is absolutely relegation fodder, but with a competent & importantly inspiring manager, we can stay up.
FrankieADZ Posted 25 November 2024 Posted 25 November 2024 29 minutes ago, AjcW said: My closing point on Cooper.... on Saturday he made me long for Jannick Vestergaard. If you'd told me i'd be experiencing those feelings three years ago, i'd have taken the bottle of vodka out of your hand and checked you into the nearest rehab clinic. thing is as well, hes forever playing Faes and one other, why not take faes out he made a rod for his own back with many of his decisions also tell me youve "watched leicester" without watching leicester one of the worse takes going imo, we know and get we'll struggle this season if he hasnt seen how crap weve been playing and the tactics etc from the sideline too then hes beyond repairs as a pundit/comms guy
sharpylcfc Posted 25 November 2024 Posted 25 November 2024 Cooper only won at 4 different grounds in 67 games in the Premier League. 1
RonnieTodger Posted 25 November 2024 Posted 25 November 2024 Pundits and journalists get free rein to call every single sacking harsh. They said about Ranieri, Cooper at Forest etc and they never get pulled up on it. Desperate for us to hire a competent manager and prove these morons wrong.
Chelmofox Posted 25 November 2024 Posted 25 November 2024 8 minutes ago, FrankieADZ said: thing is as well, hes forever playing Faes and one other, why not take faes out he made a rod for his own back with many of his decisions also tell me youve "watched leicester" without watching leicester one of the worse takes going imo, we know and get we'll struggle this season if he hasnt seen how crap weve been playing and the tactics etc from the sideline too then hes beyond repairs as a pundit/comms guy This sort of thing happens every time a manager is sacked. They all said it about Gerard when he got the boot from Villa and Parker (and even O'Neil) when they got the boot from Bournemouth. Its quickly forgotten if the new manager is a success.
HesNotGudjonsonn2 Posted 25 November 2024 Posted 25 November 2024 From my Forest fan mates I get the impression they know he isn’t really cut out for the prem but at the same time think he is good enough for us. The situation is always the same, they see themselves as a much bigger team and us a step down. Regardless of recent history, regardless of time spent in the prem, regardless of facts presented. They won the European cup nearly 50 years ago and that is enough to make claims of being one of the biggest clubs. I imagine, Preston, Huddersfield and The Old Etonians still consider themselves big clubs for success in the very distant past! 1
FrankieADZ Posted 25 November 2024 Posted 25 November 2024 see simon jordan says hes been hard done by
DJ Barry Hammond Posted 25 November 2024 Posted 25 November 2024 1 hour ago, Bert said: It was in celebration that Cooper had been sacked. I was fully clothed. Be honest!
StanSP Posted 25 November 2024 Posted 25 November 2024 9 hours ago, Royston. said: Wise move. Is this Top + co actually admitting to a dreadful mistake??? Yep, we'll hear about it in the programme notes next season
dmayne7 Posted 25 November 2024 Posted 25 November 2024 1 hour ago, FrankieADZ said: thing is as well, hes forever playing Faes and one other, why not take faes out he made a rod for his own back with many of his decisions also tell me youve "watched leicester" without watching leicester one of the worse takes going imo, we know and get we'll struggle this season if he hasnt seen how crap weve been playing and the tactics etc from the sideline too then hes beyond repairs as a pundit/comms guy That also makes no sense. If you're referencing the fact that we've won the PL and FA Cup, why would being 1 point above the relegation zone be ok? As you say, and it's the same with the Rodgers situation (though that was more ridiculous that people thought it was harsh), they clearly haven't seen us play or pay attention to anything to do with the club if they think this isn't a logical move. Never understand why people who are not connected with a club, either as a fan or professionally, think they have a knowledgeable opinion to share when it comes to sacking a manager.
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 25 November 2024 Posted 25 November 2024 (edited) The "but they're not in the relegation zone! Where do they think they should be!!!! Entitled or what !" set not only fails to take into account just how pathetically bad we've been in every single game, but also completely ignores the clearly substantiated rumours that the players simply didn't like Cooper or his methods. A bit of friction is fine (probably healthy) when you're flying, but we're not in a position where we can afford to have people actively pulling in different directions. Edited 25 November 2024 by Miquel The Work Geordie 1
CrazyKopCorner Posted 25 November 2024 Posted 25 November 2024 1 hour ago, FrankieADZ said: thing is as well, hes forever playing Faes and one other, why not take faes out he made a rod for his own back with many of his decisions also tell me youve "watched leicester" without watching leicester one of the worse takes going imo, we know and get we'll struggle this season if he hasnt seen how crap weve been playing and the tactics etc from the sideline too then hes beyond repairs as a pundit/comms guy Ian Darke you are an ignoramus - Do not spout on about a subject you know absolutely fuch all about you fool.
Chelmofox Posted 25 November 2024 Posted 25 November 2024 6 minutes ago, Miquel The Work Geordie said: The "but they're not in the relegation zone! Where do they think they should be!!!! Entitled or what !" set not only fails to take into account just how pathetically bad we've been in every single game, but also completely ignores the clearly substantiated rumours that the players simply didn't like Cooper or his methods. A bit of friction is fine (probably healthy) when you're flying, but we're not in a position where we can afford to have people actively pulling in different directions. It also fails to take into account other teams that have made similar decisions in the past and made a big success out of it. Bournemouth is a classic example when firing Parker. They didn't get a top tier manage, but they could see it wasn't working and they felt as a club they should have been in a better position than where they were. 1
The Guvnor Posted 25 November 2024 Posted 25 November 2024 Pretty sure the big personality players in a team complaining about tactics play a big part in Manager sackings. So easy fix here, don’t bother hiring another one. Let the players sort the fcuking mess out!!
demon_dog Posted 25 November 2024 Posted 25 November 2024 Hold on, Man U. weren't in the relegation zone either so should they have kept their manager? It's ok for one team but not another. Bloody pundits no idea whatsoever.
RonnieTodger Posted 25 November 2024 Posted 25 November 2024 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Miquel The Work Geordie said: The "but they're not in the relegation zone! Where do they think they should be!!!! Entitled or what !" set not only fails to take into account just how pathetically bad we've been in every single game, but also completely ignores the clearly substantiated rumours that the players simply didn't like Cooper or his methods. A bit of friction is fine (probably healthy) when you're flying, but we're not in a position where we can afford to have people actively pulling in different directions. “They’re sixteenf, wot do they eggspect!?” Edited 25 November 2024 by RonnieTodger 2
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