Ruud van Nistelrooy - New Manager - Official

[ealingfox]

Beggars belief that anyone would even entertain the prospect of him being here next season, let alone welcome it.

[ian__marshall]

5 minutes ago, RonnieTodger said:

Wolves are on 35pts. Do you really think Cooper would’ve kept us up?

 

He was shit. At absolute best, he’d have us 18th instead of 19th.

That's a great point, hadn't given that any thought. As crap we've been it's crazy that we've still got 6 games to go and both West Ham and Wolves are already on 35pts. Most likely both will finish on 42+ points. Incredible really when over the past 3 seasons mid to low 30s would have kept you up. 

[AjcW]

[fox_up_north]

12 hours ago, whoareyaaa said:

I'd go for Ange over Dyche pretty sure he would be open to it as well

Great, just spat my tea out all over my nice clean shirt

[Jon the Hat]

Just now, fox_up_north said:

Great, just spat my tea out all over my nice clean shirt

It's quite a leap of imagination from "Ange will likely leave Spurs in the summer after a disappointing season" to "Ange will likely leave Spurs in the summer after a disappointing season and would love to drop down a tier and join a club even more mental than Spurs so he can show he has what it takes to manage in the premier league".

[Wink84]

12 hours ago, whoareyaaa said:

I'd go for Ange over Dyche pretty sure he would be open to it as well

What on earth makes you think Ange would want to come to us in the position we are in?

[Spudulike]

5 minutes ago, Jon the Hat said:

It's quite a leap of imagination from "Ange will likely leave Spurs in the summer after a disappointing season" to "Ange will likely leave Spurs in the summer after a disappointing season and would love to drop down a tier and join a club even more mental than Spurs so he can show he has what it takes to manage in the premier league".

He'll get plenty of offers in the Euro Leagues that are far more attractive than managing a second tier club with no transfer budget. Unless he fancies a spell at the Seagrave Spa and Country Club. How's his golf?

[LFEFox23]

2 minutes ago, Wink84 said:

What on earth makes you think Ange would want to come to us in the position we are in?

As a club, we are currently pond life...

 

- Just been relegated for the second time in three seasons.

- Poor playing squad with a high wage bill.

- Best 2/3 players likely to be sold in the summer.

- Non playing staff, well I don't even know where to start....

- MASSIVE disconnect between the club and the fans.

- Financial mess that we cant seem to come away from.

- Owner away with the fairies 

 

 

......................... but we do have a nice training ground.

 

[SemperEadem]

Ange would hate our top brass I reckon. He would see straight through them.

[Foxin_Mad]

20 hours ago, ClaphamFox said:

He doesn’t pull any strings - he just does what Top tells him to do. 

Well exactly! Thats the problem, the club, the team are just a rich mans play thing. Im not sure we are getting some of the managers the fans want to work under these conditions. 

 

Some of the suggestions from our fans are even worse, seriously Cooper back, Lampard, Ange (what the hell as that fraud ever done in proper football, Spurs should be a LOT higher up than they are with the players they have). 

 

To be honest any half competent halfwit can win the championship, look at Daniel Farke. 

Edited 14 April by Foxin_Mad

[Bluetintedspecs]

21 hours ago, HankMarvin said:

News flash, we are not Everton though, we are back to being yo-yo club and need a manager to get promotion and provide stability. A bit like Dyche did with Burnley. After experiencing the horrors of this season, who cares how the team plays in the top tier,, its results that count and becoming  financially stable in the Prem with for a few years without relegation, then moving on to better options.

What’s laughable is how many people now talk about the wonderful job Moyes is doing, yet the posts on here when we were linked because of the style of play  and the boring football would result in them not attending or not watching matches.

Sounds familiar.

It's commonplace on here , quite a few start planning protests even before a manager is appointed 🤣

[Nickaj]

55 minutes ago, ealingfox said:

Beggars belief that anyone would even entertain the prospect of him being here next season, let alone welcome it.

 

 

Agree entirely but if Ruud staying turns out to be the lower cost option - and Ruud himself is willing to stay - I can very much see that happening 

[Chelmofox]

1 hour ago, RonnieTodger said:

Wolves are on 35pts. Do you really think Cooper would’ve kept us up?

 

He was shit. At absolute best, he’d have us 18th instead of 19th.

This is the bottom half after 12 games when we sacked Cooper:

 

 

Palace, Wolves and Everton massively sorted their sh1t out. Fact we were 16th at the time is irrelevant, as there was no way Cooper was going to be able to keep up with any of their points talleys.  

[RonnieTodger]

16 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

This is the bottom half after 12 games when we sacked Cooper:

 

 

Palace, Wolves and Everton massively sorted their sh1t out. Fact we were 16th at the time is irrelevant, as there was no way Cooper was going to be able to keep up with any of their points talleys.  

I wish we could pin this to BBC and Talksport

[RoboFox]

1 hour ago, ealingfox said:

Beggars belief that anyone would even entertain the prospect of him being here next season, let alone welcome it.

A solitary point and a half-spirited performance with a couple of goals in eighteen hours of football and it seems to be changing some people's minds. 

 

Fvcking mental behaviour. Our fanbase is absolutely broken.

 

Edited 14 April by RoboFox

[Sol thewall Bamba]

2 minutes ago, RoboFox said:

A solitary point and a half-spirited performance with a couple of goals in eighteen hours of football and it seems to be changing some people's minds. 

 

Absolutely fvcking mental behaviour. Our fanbase is absolutely broken.

I wouldn't worry. A battering from Liverpool and Wolves will have them back on side. 

[Foxin_Mad]

36 minutes ago, RonnieTodger said:

I wish we could pin this to BBC and Talksport

And shove it up Notts fans arses

 

7 minutes ago, RoboFox said:

A solitary point and a half-spirited performance with a couple of goals in eighteen hours of football and it seems to be changing some people's minds. 

 

Absolutely fvcking mental behaviour. Our fanbase is absolutely broken.

Question is is can the morons at the club be trusted to bring in anyone better?! personally I have doubts. There are a lot of things I have doubts about at the club that go far beyond the manager.  Some people think Wout Faes is an international standard footballer. 

 

4 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

I wouldn't worry. A battering from Liverpool and Wolves will have them back on side. 

It will be interesting to see the performances/personnel in the next few games. That useless twat Faes should NEVER play for us again EVER.

[Gazza M]

I predicted 38 back in Jan for survival and think it isn't too far wrong now. Remember it would have involved us taking points off Wolves and the lower half teams so they wouldn't be passing 40 with ease. The bottom 3 being so poor has made some teams look better than really they are.

 

[Corky]

2 hours ago, RonnieTodger said:

I wish we could pin this to BBC and Talksport

van Nistelrooy has been hopeless but also has had nowhere near the luck Cooper had. How we weren't thumped by Tottenham is a mystery and we got four points from the other sides down with us after they were reduced to ten men (and denied blatant, probable match winning penalties).

 

His team selections were bizarre and the results were turning. We were heading for the bottom three under him, as Nottingham Forest were the year before but they had a much better squad and upgrade of coach so he has avoided the scrutiny.

[Chrysalis]

8 hours ago, teblin said:

This is the press narrative, just because RVN has been terrible , doesn’t mean that Cooper wasn’t also really poor.

 

They got both appointments wrong. Which makes the next appointment worrying.

Press, neutral fans, ex managers, new manager, pretty much everyone except the cooper haters you mean.

 

Its ok sacking a manager for an upgrade, but no Cooper should not have been sacked "no matter what", if its a good sacking or not is dependent on who replaced him. Ruud is worse by far, which makes it a bad sacking.

 

I would like to think Top knows he ****** it up, it was an emotional not rational sacking.

Edited 14 April by Chrysalis

[teblin]

4 minutes ago, Chrysalis said:

Press, neutral fans, ex managers, new manager, pretty much everyone except the cooper haters you mean.

 

Its ok sacking a manager for an upgrade, but no Cooper should not have been sacked "no matter what", if its a good sacking or not is dependent on who replaced him. Ruud is worse by far, which makes it a bad sacking.

 

I would like to think Top knows he ****** it up, it was an emotional not rational sacking.

My point was Cooper shouldn't have been appointed in the 1st place.

[Chrysalis]

4 minutes ago, teblin said:

My point was Cooper shouldn't have been appointed in the 1st place.

I know, I have read that dozens of times from different people.

We needed a pragmatic manager who was prepared to play ugly football.

Cooper was doing ok.  Not a long term solution, but for the situation we in, was doing ok.

If there was a better option it would have needed to be the same type of manager.

But just because you may think he shouldnt have been there in the first place, it doesnt mean you just sack him without a proper upgrade plan for the sake of it, especially as we were not even in the relegation zone and scoring a decent amount of goals.

Edited 14 April by Chrysalis

[teblin]

Just now, Chrysalis said:

I know, I have read that dozens of times from different people.

We needed a pragmatic manager who was prepared to play ugly football.

Cooper was doing ok.

If there was a better option it would have needed to be the same type of manager.

But just because you may think he shouldnt have been there in the first place, it doesnt mean you just sack him without a proper upgrade plan for the sake of it, especially as we were even in the relegation zone and scoring a decent amount of goals.

Those last 3 home games we had 3 shots on target under Cooper (one was a last minute pen). I think it was already on the slide. One thing Cooper might have been is a lucky manager and maybe thats what we needed. We were lucky at Southampton, Lucky at Ipswich. 

 

Based on the fact we paid £20million for Skipp, I can't believe we didn't go for Coboran.

 

RVN has been awful and I agree sacking Cooper without a replacement was just stupid, I think they probably thought they could convince Moyes or Potter. 

 

 

 

[HankMarvin]

6 hours ago, ian__marshall said:

That's a great point, hadn't given that any thought. As crap we've been it's crazy that we've still got 6 games to go and both West Ham and Wolves are already on 35pts. Most likely both will finish on 42+ points. Incredible really when over the past 3 seasons mid to low 30s would have kept you up. 

3 shit promoted teams, means 18 points that are easier to get that the rest of the fixtures.

Wolves for example have 12 points from 5 and it will probably be 15/18 after they play us again 

[whoareyaaa]

6 hours ago, Jon the Hat said:

It's quite a leap of imagination from "Ange will likely leave Spurs in the summer after a disappointing season" to "Ange will likely leave Spurs in the summer after a disappointing season and would love to drop down a tier and join a club even more mental than Spurs so he can show he has what it takes to manage in the premier league".

He has hardly set the world alight Tottenham are 15th in the league, losing 17 games in the process.