Finn Claw II Posted 25 January Posted 25 January He’s got 2.5 years on his contract so it’ll come down to who can match wages. Homegrown so assume no accounting loss. Skipp will be the defensive midfielder next year so he’s at best back up even in the championship - even we won’t play Skipp and Hamza against the likes of Oxford at home! 2
Ric Flair Posted 25 January Posted 25 January 6 minutes ago, JimJams said: It shouldn't be a loan. Sheffield Utd are desperate in their push for promotion and have a lot of injuries in the midfield. They're desperate. Let's face it, they must be if Hamza is seen as the answer. So we hold the cards here. Buy. Only caveat is if they want to up it to a ridiculous fee on promotion, but do we want to take the chance of him coming back? We've seen with Souttar how loaning out a player, even if he does well for the club he's at can backfire from unfortunate circumstances such as injury. Imagine we send them Hamza on loan and he's great for them but does his ACL or some shit with a few games left. He comes back, and presumably after recovery, worse than ever. Good luck trying to find a buyer for Hamza when we're a PL side with thr wages he's on. A loan with obligation to buy on promotion would be a decent outcome. 2
Popular Post Leicester_Loyal Posted 25 January Popular Post Posted 25 January Why do we keep giving this lad new contracts? It's bad decision after bad decision with this club, total idiots. 7
lanefox Posted 25 January Posted 25 January 45 minutes ago, Leicester_Loyal said: Why do we keep giving this lad new contracts? It's bad decision after bad decision with this club, total idiots. Extending his contract when he went to Watford on loan was one of the dumbest mistakes we've made 1
JimJams Posted 25 January Posted 25 January 44 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Good luck trying to find a buyer for Hamza when we're a PL side with thr wages he's on. A loan with obligation to buy on promotion would be a decent outcome. Without getting into a debate on the accuracy of wage reporting a quick google search puts Hamza on 50k a week as a prem player. 36k last year in the champ. Given we're looking well like a soon to be champ outfit his wage will once again be down to 36k. Now whilst that's a lot for a champ midfielder, he's going to Sheffield Utd on the pretense of getting back to the Premier League and they're fairly well stacked to do that. Tom Davies is (again googled) on about £30kpw in the Championship, it's not that big a gap that something can't be sorted, either with us taking a hit slightly on fee, or making up the slight difference if Utd are up for paying him in around that kind of figure. If it's a loan with obligation to buy on promotion the fee should increase. We're usually the desperate ones being bent over. We should learn how to do it ourselves when the shoe is up the other arse.
Scotch Posted 25 January Posted 25 January 3 hours ago, splinterdream said: It's quite ironic that when all our stats are pointing to being weak in midfield with tackle percentage low, that we're pushing a player that maybe able to change that out of the door, hamza would be worth a try in a 4-1-4-1 formation He's played 130 minutes in the league this year and made 1 tackle. Yes, he won it but the problem with Hamza isn't his ability to win challenges it's his ability to get close enough to even make a challenge. His reading of the game is absolutely dreadful, which leads to him always reacting and chasing the game. That's why at this level, he just can't cut it. He doesn't have the football intelligence to be a PL DM. 1
scinnell Posted 25 January Posted 25 January Good championship squad player, which will prove useful next season.
Popular Post Jazzy_Jeff Posted 25 January Popular Post Posted 25 January 5 minutes ago, scinnell said: Good championship squad player, which will prove useful next season. This is the issue - a player deemed a squad player in the league below on huge wages. We could bring in a better player on a third of his salary. 5
MPH Posted 25 January Posted 25 January 6 minutes ago, scinnell said: Good championship squad player, which will prove useful next season. we don’t need people on prem wages being a squad player in the championship. 1
sm1 Posted 25 January Posted 25 January I know I'm in the minority, but I think he deserves more mins this season. With Ndidi's long term injury we have conceded goals for fun. Our midfield during this period is like a revolving door, we need defensive stability there.
Royston. Posted 25 January Posted 25 January 1 hour ago, Leicester_Loyal said: Why do we keep giving this lad new contracts? It's bad decision after bad decision with this club, total idiots. Cos he is happy to be a fringe player and we can theoretically command a decent fee if he has several years on his contract. I say theoretically because sorry Hamza, you are shit shit shit
adam Posted 25 January Posted 25 January If we can get this clown off the books it will be a successful window.
Silebyfox_89 Posted 25 January Posted 25 January 1 hour ago, Ric Flair said: Good luck trying to find a buyer for Hamza when we're a PL side with thr wages he's on. A loan with obligation to buy on promotion would be a decent outcome. My only other thought process was if he was on say 60k a week with 2.5 years left and Sheffield offered him 45k a week on a year deal and a nominal fee like 3 million? I'd take that.
Reg Vardy Posted 25 January Posted 25 January 8 minutes ago, Silebyfox_89 said: My only other thought process was if he was on say 60k a week with 2.5 years left and Sheffield offered him 45k a week on a year deal and a nominal fee like 3 million? I'd take that. They won’t
LVFox Posted 25 January Posted 25 January Loan with obligation if they go up would be a great deal. We need to get Hamza off the wage bill ASAP. 1
Popular Post Muzzy_no7 Posted 25 January Popular Post Posted 25 January The decline of our club can be summarised with the career of this Plonker. The fact he is STILL here after ‘breaking through’ in 17-19 and being given TWO contract extensions since then says everything you need to know about our decline and idiotic decision making at the top. 8
MPH Posted 25 January Posted 25 January 1 hour ago, sm1 said: I know I'm in the minority, but I think he deserves more mins this season. With Ndidi's long term injury we have conceded goals for fun. Our midfield during this period is like a revolving door, we need defensive stability there. classic manager tactic. If you don’t rate someone, freeze them out to encourage them to leave.
Ric Flair Posted 25 January Posted 25 January 2 hours ago, JimJams said: Without getting into a debate on the accuracy of wage reporting a quick google search puts Hamza on 50k a week as a prem player. 36k last year in the champ. Given we're looking well like a soon to be champ outfit his wage will once again be down to 36k. Now whilst that's a lot for a champ midfielder, he's going to Sheffield Utd on the pretense of getting back to the Premier League and they're fairly well stacked to do that. Tom Davies is (again googled) on about £30kpw in the Championship, it's not that big a gap that something can't be sorted, either with us taking a hit slightly on fee, or making up the slight difference if Utd are up for paying him in around that kind of figure. If it's a loan with obligation to buy on promotion the fee should increase. We're usually the desperate ones being bent over. We should learn how to do it ourselves when the shoe is up the other arse. I think it'll come down to what they'd offer him were they to go up. We might have to subsidise his wages for the rest of this season but at this stage I'd just take him going for a nominal fee.
Dr The Singh Posted 25 January Posted 25 January 3 minutes ago, EastAnglianFox said: Let's hope Hamza hasn't been on the piss
LCFCCKEANO Posted 25 January Posted 25 January Athletic reporting loan with buy option, so he’ll be back in the summer
Paninistickers Posted 25 January Posted 25 January 40 minutes ago, EastAnglianFox said: Good luck to him. I like him.
FLAN Posted 25 January Posted 25 January 2 hours ago, sm1 said: I know I'm in the minority, but I think he deserves more mins this season. With Ndidi's long term injury we have conceded goals for fun. Our midfield during this period is like a revolving door, we need defensive stability there. Horrendous against Newcastle. I know the formation left him and Skipp exposed but he was just watching players run by him 1
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