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[EnderbyFox]

Just now, SecretPro said:

have you seen the earlier video's that were released last night though - before he started driving into anybody? He had clearly had some sort of altercation and as a result people were battering his car - then someone put his back window through - then he went on to do what he did. Nobody is suggesting its excusable in any way but there is clearly more here than meets the eye.

 

Also saw an earlier video where he was beeping his horn trying to get through, doesn't suggest premeditation 

 

Shocking that he was ever allowed onto that road, looks like he's either panicked or lost his head in traffic

[SecretPro]

2 minutes ago, EnderbyFox said:

 

Also saw an earlier video where he was beeping his horn trying to get through, doesn't suggest premeditation 

 

Shocking that he was ever allowed onto that road, looks like he's either panicked or lost his head in traffic

Yeah, I reckon he's probably had a skinful, got into some altercation, then got in his car - perhaps people have tried to stop him driving off as they've noticed he's legless and it's led to where we are at. Completely inexcusable - shouldn't have been in the car, shouldn't have been on that road, shouldn't mow people down even in a panic. He's going to go down for a very long time. 

[Trav Le Bleu]

48 minutes ago, SecretPro said:

have you seen the earlier video's that were released last night though - before he started driving into anybody? He had clearly had some sort of altercation and as a result people were battering his car - then someone put his back window through - then he went on to do what he did. Nobody is suggesting its excusable in any way but there is clearly more here than meets the eye. Theres a voice clip doing the rounds that suggests he had come out of hooters and potentially got into some sort of fist fight before getting in his car.

Yeah. I imagine (and that is all it is without firsthand knowledge) that the guy accidentally hits someone. The correct thing to do is get out, apologise and help, but if just a few people of the crowd start being yobbish, maybe you're going to be reluctant, even fearful, to get out and do that.

 

Obviously that no excuse, but it's a likely scenario.

[Fox92]

1 hour ago, SecretPro said:

have you seen the earlier video's that were released last night though - before he started driving into anybody? He had clearly had some sort of altercation and as a result people were battering his car - then someone put his back window through - then he went on to do what he did. Nobody is suggesting its excusable in any way but there is clearly more here than meets the eye. Theres a voice clip doing the rounds that suggests he had come out of hooters and potentially got into some sort of fist fight before getting in his car.

I don't think a "but" is needed after that.

 

I saw a bit of that earlier video and I saw the video of him intentionally driving into a crowd of people. Not really sure there's anything else to be said. 

 

All I've read this morning is that a couple of people are seriously injured, including a child, so I hope they pull through. That's the main thing.

[ramboacdc]

1 hour ago, EnderbyFox said:

 

Also saw an earlier video where he was beeping his horn trying to get through, doesn't suggest premeditation 

 

Shocking that he was ever allowed onto that road, looks like he's either panicked or lost his head in traffic

The BBC News reporter who was on the road with his daughter at the time said it wasn't a parade route closed path. It was a standard road and fans were just filtering away from the parade. Police will have just as much to answer to it seems. Shutting the whole of Liverpool City Centre though would have caused more chaos, but it seems the same as if the police didn't close Burnmoor street at the end of our games or a load of fans walking on the road down Walnut Street. Incident waiting to happen in them cases. 

You can throw theory and speculation out everywhere as to why, won't change the 2 facts though that it shouldn't happen regardless of the circumstances and that some people here will have life-changing injuries because of this.

[Trav Le Bleu]

Farage just said that the British are the most open-minded people in the world. 

 

[Footballwipe]

12 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

Farage just said that the British are the most open-minded people in the world. 

 

Appeals perfectly to his fanbase though doesn't it. Positive affirmation to them that they are open minded.

 

Gives them more ammunition to believe they are, and to refute anyone who accuses them of being closed minded.

[bovril]

1 hour ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

Farage just said that the British are the most open-minded people in the world. 

 

Leaving aside the fact that this is clearly untrue it shows again that a lot of Brits will profess tolerance towards foreigners only as a way of showing that they're better than them. I remember all the stuff about how we needed to keep out Eastern Europeans... because they're not as tolerant as us.

Edited 27 May 2025 by bovril

[Trav Le Bleu]

8 minutes ago, bovril said:

Leaving aside the fact that this is clearly untrue it shows again that a lot of Brits will profess tolerance towards foreigners only as a way of showing that they're better than them. I remember all the stuff about how we needed to keep out Eastern Europeans... because they're not as tolerant as us.

To be fair, I don't think we're particularly worse than most countries, it's fairly universal, but there's certainly more open-minded cultures.

 

Also, it's not the kind of thing you can say about yourself, someone else has to say it for it to have real credibility.

 

[leicsmac]

24 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

To be fair, I don't think we're particularly worse than most countries, it's fairly universal, but there's certainly more open-minded cultures.

 

Also, it's not the kind of thing you can say about yourself, someone else has to say it for it to have real credibility.

 

I don't know, self-aggrandising appears to be in vogue right now, if the actions of Farages leashholder across the pond are any judge.

Edited 27 May 2025 by leicsmac

[Trav Le Bleu]

2 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

I don't know, self-aggrandising appears to be in vogue right now, if the actions of Farages leashholder across the pond are any judge.

You just need to read the Russell Martin thread to see how open-minded the British public are.

[leicsmac]

1 minute ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

You just need to read the Russell Martin thread to see how open-minded the British public are.

... or any comment section on any BBC article. Even the apparently non controversial ones.

[FoxesWalk]

4 hours ago, Fox92 said:

Panicked? You can watch the video on the BBC site, he's intentionally driving into groups of people. How has this turned into maybe the driver "panicked".

was in Tesco earlier and a group of blokes who would meet the same description of the driver who drove into the crowd were talking about how they sympathise with the driver… Mind-boggling stuff. 

[fox in the sox]

1 hour ago, FoxesWalk said:

was in Tesco earlier and a group of blokes who would meet the same description of the driver who drove into the crowd were talking about how they sympathise with the driver… Mind-boggling stuff. 

Car followed ambulance after a road block was lifted to allow the ambulance through. Drugs involved with the driver.

[st albans fox]

36 minutes ago, fox in the sox said:

Car followed ambulance after a road block was lifted to allow the ambulance through. Drugs involved with the driver.

Something needs to open the eyes of the majority to the epidemic of drug taking in society 

perhaps this is it (although plenty of politicians and media are not averse to the habit so don’t hold your breath) 

[Tuna]

If he was on drugs, he ought to have the  book thrown at him, picked up and thrown at him again.

[Skidmark]

Does anyone else think this is all a bit weird? 

 

50 odd year old bloke, off his head on drugs on a Monday afternoon, driving a Ford Galaxy, somewhat of a family car.

 

Following an ambulance and then tailgating to get past a cordon, on a shut road. On a day that everyone in the city knows most roads around the city will be shut. 
 

Very strange. 

[cruzFOX]

34 minutes ago, Skidmark said:

Does anyone else think this is all a bit weird? 

 

50 odd year old bloke, off his head on drugs on a Monday afternoon, driving a Ford Galaxy, somewhat of a family car.

 

Following an ambulance and then tailgating to get past a cordon, on a shut road. On a day that everyone in the city knows most roads around the city will be shut. 
 

Very strange. 

It is a lot of weird incidents and coincidences apparently but I’m putting it back on the police and organizers. This type of assault with a vehicle is not a new phenomenon. It’s happening globally all the time. The powers that be have to be planning to expect this to happen. If so why was the gate access so easy to allow this nutter to follow the ambulance in? Either organizers have to provide better security or members of the public stop going to mass gatherings because crazed nut jobs are not going to stop trying. Please be safe this summer everyone wherever you go.

Sad we cant even enjoy a day out anymore without worrying something like this could happen.

[Md9]

Sure putin is really worried about this orange plum 

[Guest Bilo]

8 hours ago, Footballwipe said:

Appeals perfectly to his fanbase though doesn't it. Positive affirmation to them that they are open minded.

 

Gives them more ammunition to believe they are, and to refute anyone who accuses them of being closed minded.

"We've got a bird for our new MP and one of them lot as our party chairman. And I can't be racist, I've got a colour telly.' 

[Lionator]

3 hours ago, Skidmark said:

Does anyone else think this is all a bit weird? 

 

50 odd year old bloke, off his head on drugs on a Monday afternoon, driving a Ford Galaxy, somewhat of a family car.

 

Following an ambulance and then tailgating to get past a cordon, on a shut road. On a day that everyone in the city knows most roads around the city will be shut. 
 

Very strange. 

Maybe he wanted to get shot by the police. 

[fox in the sox]

10 hours ago, Skidmark said:

Does anyone else think this is all a bit weird? 

 

50 odd year old bloke, off his head on drugs on a Monday afternoon, driving a Ford Galaxy, somewhat of a family car.

 

Following an ambulance and then tailgating to get past a cordon, on a shut road. On a day that everyone in the city knows most roads around the city will be shut. 
 

Very strange. 

I guess he wasn’t acting rationally because of the drugs.

[Jon the Hat]

18 hours ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

Farage just said that the British are the most open-minded people in the world. 

 

I actually think he is probably not that far off with this point.  Certainly, of the larger nations the UK is pretty good.  What nation do you think beats us here?

[Trav Le Bleu]

1 hour ago, Jon the Hat said:

I actually think he is probably not that far off with this point.  Certainly, of the larger nations the UK is pretty good.  What nation do you think beats us here?

If he'd said, "one of" then I'd think fair enough, but he definitely meant number 1. I think most of Northern Europe is at the very least on a par, Canada, New Zealand... We clearly don't stand head and shoulders above anyone else.

[Jon the Hat]

13 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

If he'd said, "one of" then I'd think fair enough, but he definitely meant number 1. I think most of Northern Europe is at the very least on a par, Canada, New Zealand... We clearly don't stand head and shoulders above anyone else.

Hmm.  Germany which gave 20% of the vote to AfD?  France with La Pen?  Are you sure?