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Premier League has charged LCFC with an alleged breach of PSR

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urban.spaceman

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⚽ Leicester & the “PSR lie”

 

 

Leicester’s decline – Once Premier League champions (2015–16), Leicester now sit in the bottom half of the Championship and face possible points deductions for past financial breaches, even at that level. They’ve been punished repeatedly, leaving them a shadow of the club that shocked the world.

PSR exposed – Samuel argues this shows the Profitability and Sustainability Rules (PSR) aren’t about debt management, but about blocking ambition and protecting the elite.

Barriers to entry – PSR function like protectionist laws: preventing outsiders from competing, keeping the Premier League’s “incumbent elite” (Liverpool, City, Arsenal, United, Chelsea, Spurs) safe from challengers.

Examples –

Aston Villa forced back to “the swampy middle.”

Wolves had their squad stripped.

Newcastle’s ambition curbed despite Saudi backing.

But Leicester’s fall makes the truth clearest: ambition gets punished.

 

Tottenham’s interest in PSR – Daniel Levy is a prominent backer. For Spurs, PSR preserves their status as a Champions League regular and keeps their valuation high (£2–3bn).

Without PSR, Newcastle, Villa, Forest and others might break in, reducing Spurs to “upper mid-table” and slashing their market worth by up to £1bn.

 

Conclusion – PSR isn’t about financial responsibility; it’s about ring-fencing the elite. Leicester’s demise, ironically, has revealed the truth.

 

👉 In essence: Samuel uses Leicester’s downfall as a cautionary tale—proof that PSR exists to protect the rich clubs, not the health of football.

 

Do you want me to rewrite this into a short, punchy version (like a fan-friendly tweet thread or pub-chat summary), or keep it in this analytical style?

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davieG

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The PL like it because it increases the chance of one of those elite clubs winning Euro comps thus enhancing the status of the PL bringing in more money which mostly goes to the elite. Its purpose built vicious circle. 

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Spudulike

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3 hours ago, ClaphamFox said:

That’s an old article. He’s published a new one today but it doesn’t appear to be online. 

 

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Jaspa

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6 hours ago, HarryDee8 said:

PSR is ruining the game and restrictive

Unless you're part of a multi-club system and facilitate huge transfers between network clubs for inflated figures. 

 

Seems we had the idea with OHL but gave up, and have since been swamped by the money which flooded the Prem during and post-COVID. There's been a huge power shift in the mean time. With the money and power Newcastle have it should be inevitable, I mean there's alot being said about them after this summer but that have just won their first silverware in decades and are back in Europe again.

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20 minutes ago, Jaspa said:

Unless you're part of a multi-club system and facilitate huge transfers between network clubs for inflated figures. 

 

Seems we had the idea with OHL but gave up, and have since been swamped by the money which flooded the Prem during and post-COVID. There's been a huge power shift in the mean time. With the money and power Newcastle have it should be inevitable, I mean there's alot being said about them after this summer but that have just won their first silverware in decades and are back in Europe again.

Football is corrupt, Crystal Palace are prevented from entering the Europa league because of 'multi-club rules' and replace by a club who has a Global Head of Football. Absolute joke. 

 

Any kind of meaningful success for clubs outside the established hierarchy is automatically met with punishment and an attempt to destroy them. 

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Lionator

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25 minutes ago, Quorndon_Fox said:

So the question is, how do fans have the power to change it?

They don’t. Fans haven’t had any power in this country since 1985 and that was when fans got English clubs kicked out of Europe. We sold our souls to the devil like in every walk of life.

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29 minutes ago, Quorndon_Fox said:

So the question is, how do fans have the power to change it?

Break away from the elite would be the answer. However that likely means you’d need to get clubs to agree to moving away from UEFA and FIFA, akin to the Super League. 
 

The fallout would be huge. 
 

It’s more likely to happen at the very top to generate that Super League in all honesty, than it is for a club of our size.
 

Realistically it would need to be a European League to get any traction, so you’d be looking at a league with the likes of Leicester, West Ham, Celtic, Rangers, Espanyol, Bologna, Sampdoria, Udinese, Hertha Berlin, Werder Bremen, Nantes, Groningen, Heerenven, Standard Liege, Braga, Boavista, Gent, Tranzpnspor, Frankfurt etc etc 

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5 hours ago, urban.spaceman said:

 

https://www.thetimes.com/sport/football/article/tottenham-eberechi-eze-arsenal-fm6dgztwr

I have a love hate feeling about Martin Samuel.Sometimes I think he’s the only football  journo worth the tag.He’s also incredibly knowledgeable about all sports.Most of the others aren’t fit to sharpen his pencil

He can be pretty inconsisent.Just one example.

Before PSR became an issue,he would regularly point out that CL football could only be regularly achieved by the elite clubs as keeping up with the big boys took year on year investment.Something only the top 5/6 could do with the luxury of missing out on qualification for any length of time.Without their owners running out of cash or enthusiasm

He would write this in a pretty condescending manor.Almost as if he liked the status quo

The boy Linacre

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6 hours ago, urban.spaceman said:

 

⚽ Leicester & the “PSR lie”

 

 

Leicester’s decline – Once Premier League champions (2015–16), Leicester now sit in the bottom half of the Championship and face possible points deductions for past financial breaches, even at that level. They’ve been punished repeatedly, leaving them a shadow of the club that shocked the world.

PSR exposed – Samuel argues this shows the Profitability and Sustainability Rules (PSR) aren’t about debt management, but about blocking ambition and protecting the elite.

Barriers to entry – PSR function like protectionist laws: preventing outsiders from competing, keeping the Premier League’s “incumbent elite” (Liverpool, City, Arsenal, United, Chelsea, Spurs) safe from challengers.

Examples –

Aston Villa forced back to “the swampy middle.”

Wolves had their squad stripped.

Newcastle’s ambition curbed despite Saudi backing.

But Leicester’s fall makes the truth clearest: ambition gets punished.

 

Tottenham’s interest in PSR – Daniel Levy is a prominent backer. For Spurs, PSR preserves their status as a Champions League regular and keeps their valuation high (£2–3bn).

Without PSR, Newcastle, Villa, Forest and others might break in, reducing Spurs to “upper mid-table” and slashing their market worth by up to £1bn.

 

Conclusion – PSR isn’t about financial responsibility; it’s about ring-fencing the elite. Leicester’s demise, ironically, has revealed the truth.

 

👉 In essence: Samuel uses Leicester’s downfall as a cautionary tale—proof that PSR exists to protect the rich clubs, not the health of football.

 

Do you want me to rewrite this into a short, punchy version (like a fan-friendly tweet thread or pub-chat summary), or keep it in this analytical style?

He’s been following this theme for about the last 2 months sporadically.

This is doing a better job for the big 6 than carving up the TV money.  

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5 hours ago, Jimmy said:

when was that article written? I didn't realise seventh was bottom half in the championship

Is that really your main take from that article?

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jayfox26

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Its frustrating that 6 out of 92 clubs hold all the power. Ultimately, as with everything in football it all comes down to money. Even in the prem, the cartel only hold 6/20 votes, but the other 14 dare not vote against them as they all still earn lucrative amounts of money from being in the Premier league. If the 14/20 or 86/92 all rose up against the cartel, surely the PL/fa/efl would have to do something? 

 

If the 14/20 refused to play against the cartel until the rules get changed, what could they do? Fck off to a super league? Good, that's what we all want. 

 

Make the game fair or fck off I say. 

 

Edit: just want to add that as much as I agree with Samuel and the whole PSR rules being corrupt, it doesn't hide the fact our owner and board have mis managed the club to unprecedented levels. PSR may have forced our hand in selling our best players over the years but it didn't force us to replace them with a load of useless tw@ts. 

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5 minutes ago, jayfox26 said:

Its frustrating that 6 out of 92 clubs hold all the power. Ultimately, as with everything in football it all comes down to money. Even in the prem, the cartel only hold 6/20 votes, but the other 14 dare not vote against them as they all still earn lucrative amounts of money from being in the Premier league. If the 14/20 or 86/92 all rose up against the cartel, surely the PL/fa/efl would have to do something? 

 

If the 14/20 refused to play against the cartel until the rules get changed, what could they do? Fck off to a super league? Good, that's what we all want. 

 

Make the game fair or fck off I say. 

 

Edit: just want to add that as much as I agree with Samuel and the whole PSR rules being corrupt, it doesn't hide the fact our owner and board have mis managed the club to unprecedented levels. PSR may have forced our hand in selling our best players over the years but it didn't force us to replace them with a load of useless tw@ts. 

The smaller clubs dislike clubs like ours, as much as we dislike the ones above us. 
 

It’s a food chain.

 

We steal their players, who they stole from clubs below them etc

 

 

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5 hours ago, jayfox26 said:

Its frustrating that 6 out of 92 clubs hold all the power. Ultimately, as with everything in football it all comes down to money. Even in the prem, the cartel only hold 6/20 votes, but the other 14 dare not vote against them as they all still earn lucrative amounts of money from being in the Premier league. If the 14/20 or 86/92 all rose up against the cartel, surely the PL/fa/efl would have to do something? 

 

If the 14/20 refused to play against the cartel until the rules get changed, what could they do? Fck off to a super league? Good, that's what we all want. 

 

Make the game fair or fck off I say. 

 

Edit: just want to add that as much as I agree with Samuel and the whole PSR rules being corrupt, it doesn't hide the fact our owner and board have mis managed the club to unprecedented levels. PSR may have forced our hand in selling our best players over the years but it didn't force us to replace them with a load of useless tw@ts. 

There is no fight back possible, and not because fans wouldn’t back it, they absolutely would, but because the club owners of those required to show or at least not quash dissent will not do so. It ruins their chances/relationships in not just football, but in their business arenas.

 

As is clear, it’s all about the Benjamin’s.

Gazza M

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Our story broke the mould. We didn't plough millions in to our squad. It was great recruitment and nurturing the right characters to build a unit. 

PSR stops billionaires ploughing millions upon millions in to a club to achieve success ala Jack Walker in the 90s with Blackburn. Newcastle were going down same route until PSR stopped them.

We are in a mess due to handing out silly wages like smarties to average footballers, something if managed better we could have avoided and stopped players walking away for free. 

In a way basing PSR against a clubs turnover is cruel, but I do like preventing people buying their way to success. The big clubs need a transfer spending restriction also that is more realistic to be fair. 

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Samual does make a very good point. We’re the only club that’s actually managed to breach the elite’s party. And look at us now? They relentlessly pursue us, at every given opportunity, and yet Man City are allowed to carry on as normal. Arsenal are allowed to continually play, pay and support and potential rapist…..

 

The whole league set up is to protect their key assets. 
 

If the EPL and EFL could drive us into none existence, they would. 
 

The only way to change it, is every single team steps forward and agrees to ignore the rules, or every single club comes forward and demands change. 

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I have a completely baseless theory.

 

We have asked the EFL to not announce any actions against us during transfer window so we can maximise revenue from sales. We argued announcing it would actively harm financial position of club.

 

Perhaps the Sun are right there is a non announced transfer embargo.

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If there is any substance at all here the “permitted player” rule would be of interest to us. I think currently we have a total of 23 (the minimum number required) under the rules currently given Page and Monga have only started one league game each. If JJ and BEK leave this week and we then get 2 loans in, maybe there is some kind of embargo or we are behaving in a way to suggest we have implemented our own as part of pleading our case. 

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Wouldn't be surprised if the "Super League" dream rears it's head again in the not too distant future.

 

Once they have driven that wedge further between us and the perceived top 6 we'll all be wanting them gone.

 

It actually feels like footballs' equivalent of Upstairs Downstairs and we are to know our place under the stairs and never question what goes on above whom we mere mortals serve.

 

 We stepped out of the parlour 10 years ago and are systematically being put back in our place and punished for doing so.

 

How dare we! 

 

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