General News Thread

[st albans fox]

2 hours ago, Lionator said:

Oil prices seem to have taken their viagra. Strategic genius Don strikes again.

Well it will please his mate mad vlad. And that Venezuelan jaunt is even more rewarding now. 

[MPH]

2 hours ago, Lionator said:

Oil prices seem to have taken their viagra. Strategic genius Don strikes again.

 

 

well to be fair to him, I don’t think it was a coincidence that he secured Venezuela’s oil first…

 

[leicsmac]

12 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Well it will please his mate mad vlad. And that Venezuelan jaunt is even more rewarding now. 

 

1 minute ago, MPH said:

 

 

well to be fair to him, I don’t think it was a coincidence that he secured Venezuela’s oil first…

 

Purely for the record, though, such continued reliance on and exploitation of oil does remain psychotically short sighted and self interested and that kind of thing perhaps shouldn't be framed in any light but a negative one.

[leicsmac]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz6evlwl68do

 

The Liberal Democrats want Sir Keir Starmer to prevent the King visiting the United States next month over Donald Trump's criticism of the British response on Iran.

The monarch and Queen Camilla are set to meet the US president for a state visit at the end of April.

But Lib Dem leader Sir Ed Davey said the visit should not go ahead, as it would hand a "huge diplomatic coup" to Trump during US-Israeli strikes on Iran.

The conflict has strained transatlantic ties, after Sir Keir initially refused to allow American planes to use British bases to launch bombing raids on the country.

 

Think there's an argument to be made either way here; at the present time the King shouldn't go on general principle, but he's also one of the few men that Trump cannot (or at least will not) talk down to and might listen to reason on. 

Edited 9 March by leicsmac

[Lionator]

The UAE government seem pleased with the American war mongers

 

 

[Tommy G]

11 minutes ago, Lionator said:

The UAE government seem pleased with the American war mongers

 

 

What is ''not bowled over'' in Arabic 

[MPH]

1 hour ago, leicsmac said:

 

Purely for the record, though, such continued reliance on and exploitation of oil does remain psychotically short sighted and self interested and that kind of thing perhaps shouldn't be framed in any light but a negative one.

 

I wouldn’t call it short sighted if indeed his intention really is regime change  and then to just clear off out of there…

 

 

but when have the Americans ever just done that?

[leicsmac]

16 minutes ago, MPH said:

 

I wouldn’t call it short sighted if indeed his intention really is regime change  and then to just clear off out of there…

 

 

but when have the Americans ever just done that?

Quite right. 

 

But to clarify on my original point,  just the entire reliance on oil in the way this administration chooses to will lead to no good end for anyone, as it will continue to contribute to a problem that will result in vastly depleted vital resources and therefore more conflict over them in the near future. 

[leicsmac]

Also, the amount of internet commentary I'm seeing about this all being part of a larger perverse "Great Game" where there has to be winners and losers is horrifying.

 

That very attitude - that there has to be hierarchy and violence is the only way to enforce it - is the reason why all this starts and continues, and why so many innocent people suffer and die needlessly. 

 

Our species can do better - has to do better - than behaving like viruses with more sophisticated toys.

[danny.]

8 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

Also, the amount of internet commentary I'm seeing about this all being part of a larger perverse "Great Game" where there has to be winners and losers is horrifying.

 

That very attitude - that there has to be hierarchy and violence is the only way to enforce it - is the reason why all this starts and continues, and why so many innocent people suffer and die needlessly. 

 

Our species can do better - has to do better - than behaving like viruses with more sophisticated toys.

We won't thought. We're just not a very nice species.

[leicsmac]

1 minute ago, danny. said:

We won't thought. We're just not a very nice species.

Well, at the moment I can offer some argument to the contrary, but certainly not much and not at all convincing, given what's going on. 

 

That being said, no one should sit back and accept that we're always going to be like this either (with all the dire consequences that entails), because that just makes failure as a species a guarantee rather than a likelihood. 

 

Rage against the dying of the light. Always. 

[CornwallFox]

So wenow have the BBC confirming film of an American tomotawk missile hitting a medical building in the Islamic guard base next to the school. 

Couple that with the fact American leaders have been really lax with security and pictures of their targets are shown in the background of videos and pictures of them, including the approximate location of the base/school.

[Raj]

 

 

 

WTF is this bollox....My God this world is fecked!!!

[Tommy G]

Just now, Raj said:

 

 

 

WTF is this bollox....My God this world is fecked!!!

America, basically....

[Zear0]

3 minutes ago, Raj said:

 

 

 

WTF is this bollox....My God this world is fecked!!!

[leicsmac]

8 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

America, basically....

Well, yes, but it's a rather new development that this kind of religious mania is firstly so blatant at the highest executive level, and secondly being utilised by policymakers to affect so many peoples lives negatively.

[Corky]

5 hours ago, leicsmac said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz6evlwl68do

 

The Liberal Democrats want Sir Keir Starmer to prevent the King visiting the United States next month over Donald Trump's criticism of the British response on Iran.

The monarch and Queen Camilla are set to meet the US president for a state visit at the end of April.

But Lib Dem leader Sir Ed Davey said the visit should not go ahead, as it would hand a "huge diplomatic coup" to Trump during US-Israeli strikes on Iran.

The conflict has strained transatlantic ties, after Sir Keir initially refused to allow American planes to use British bases to launch bombing raids on the country.

 

Think there's an argument to be made either way here; at the present time the King shouldn't go on general principle, but he's also one of the few men that Trump cannot (or at least will not) talk down to and might listen to reason on. 

You really do not envy the Prime Minister in this. Far easier to be opining from a position of no influence than having to juggle polar opposite sides, moronic shouts from the opposition and an erratic bloke at the other end of the phone.

[danny.]

32 minutes ago, Raj said:

 

 

 

WTF is this bollox....My God this world is fecked!!!

Look how serious his orange face is 😂

[leicsmac]

10 minutes ago, danny. said:

Look how serious his orange face is 😂

It would be wholly hilarious were the consequences not so absolutely awful. 

 

As it is, it's humour of a rather dark kind.

[Livid]

Preparing myself for the ‘shock’ BBC headlines in a couple of months about how the government tax take was surprisingly up in March, hmmm I will be stumped as to where it has all come from. 
 

Managed to top up with diesel at 159.9p (only place under 160) on the way home.
 

Going to top up regularly because I think filling up from empty would have me sobbing on my knees on the forecourt. 

[Leicesterpool]

Has Trump ever admitted he got anything wrong? I somehow doubt at some point he will ever say we never should have attacked Iran. Winning the war? eh? when Turkey his nearly hit and missiles still heading for UAE. At times he sounds like Putin when he first invaded Ukraine, claiming Russia was doing very well and in matter of days they'd be in Kyiv, four years later the war is still on going and Russia still no closer to Kyiv. World full of mad men. 

Edited 9 March by Leicesterpool

[Trav Le Bleu]

1 hour ago, Corky said:

You really do not envy the Prime Minister in this. Far easier to be opining from a position of no influence than having to juggle polar opposite sides, moronic shouts from the opposition and an erratic bloke at the other end of the phone.

He should get the Archbishop of Canterbury to pray over him.

[CornwallFox]

5 hours ago, danny. said:

We won't thought. We're just not a very nice species.

 

5 hours ago, leicsmac said:

Well, at the moment I can offer some argument to the contrary, but certainly not much and not at all convincing, given what's going on. 

 

That being said, no one should sit back and accept that we're always going to be like this either (with all the dire consequences that entails), because that just makes failure as a species a guarantee rather than a likelihood. 

 

Rage against the dying of the light. Always. 

It's how easily the masses are convinced right is wrong and vice versa that bothers me. Hard working people constantly voting for absolute grifters that only intend to enrich themselves, and all it takes is a few media outlets to continuously bombard with one viewpoint.

[Sol thewall Bamba]

Trump sends a tweet and the S&P shoots up. Wow! Who could have predicted this?

Edited 9 March by Sol thewall Bamba

[foxy tiler]

11 minutes ago, CornwallFox said:

 

It's how easily the masses are convinced right is wrong and vice versa that bothers me. Hard working people constantly voting for absolute grifters that only intend to enrich themselves, and all it takes is a few media outlets to continuously bombard with one viewpoint.

Needs to be a serious look into who owns and funds much of our media....independent journalism needs to be protected. A lot of it is nothing short of brainwashing by folks who own different media outlets with agenda thats not got our best interests at heart.