General News Thread

[bovril]

16 minutes ago, CornwallFox said:

 

 

Honestly I wish we'd stop holding our tongues. 

I have endless respect for the Spanish leader for just fronting up to trump and saying no.

Or even Mark Carney who is being pretty clear. 

We need to stop pandering to a US that is anything but a trustworthy ally now.

Stockholm syndrome 

[Izzy]

Thought the King spoke brilliantly to Congress. Had a tear in my eye at times NGL

[FoxesDeb]

Just now, Izzy said:

Thought the King spoke brilliantly to Congress. Had a tear in my eye at times NGL

Agreed, I thought he was amazing. As someone who was against him going at all I was glad to hear all the little digs he managed to get in, he was very well received too.

 

Shame DT probably won't understand any of the references he made and it will all go over his head.

[leicsmac]

7 minutes ago, Izzy said:

Thought the King spoke brilliantly to Congress. Had a tear in my eye at times NGL

 

5 minutes ago, FoxesDeb said:

Agreed, I thought he was amazing. As someone who was against him going at all I was glad to hear all the little digs he managed to get in, he was very well received too.

 

Shame DT probably won't understand any of the references he made and it will all go over his head.

Hoping he made some of the Repubs squirm with the references to environmental issues being paramount and the importance of checks and balances in government.

[leicsmac]

29 minutes ago, CornwallFox said:

 

 

Honestly I wish we'd stop holding our tongues. 

I have endless respect for the Spanish leader for just fronting up to trump and saying no.

Or even Mark Carney who is being pretty clear. 

We need to stop pandering to a US that is anything but a trustworthy ally now.

Particularly when such pandering gets the UK nothing other than the contempt of the actually reasonable world. 

[Trav Le Bleu]

4 hours ago, leicsmac said:

Unfortunately I don't think this is either a terribly new problem or one that Russia is uniquely responsible for. 

 

There are sadly far too many people, nationality irrelevant, who enjoy the power they have, enjoy abusing the power they have and are both able and willing to spread this kind of misinformation in order to keep doing so. 

 

Either it is addressed or everyone but the purveyors (short term) and everyone including the purveyors (long term) pay the price for decision-making based on something less than empirical fact. 

 

And that price will be at best very high, and at worst, absolute.

Add in AI and you have a glorious mess.

[st albans fox]

1 hour ago, leicsmac said:

In the same way the current US administration is careful about what they say to everyone, including the UK, no matter the level of politeness towards them?

 

Sorry, if it's not clear at the present time that additional decorum without telling difficult truth gives absolutely no advantage when dealing with that cabal of sociopaths, then I'm not sure when it will be. Turning the other cheek simply isn't going to work here.

The Starmer stuff is the main issue for me 

bbc haven’t reported that 

[leicsmac]

5 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

The Starmer stuff is the main issue for me 

bbc haven’t reported that 

I disagree about the level of importance, but fair enough. 

[worthosoriginals]

19 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

I disagree about the level of importance, but fair enough. 

Its important for the right wingers to keep starmer looking like hes cocking anything up

[Tommy G]

24 minutes ago, worthosoriginals said:

Its important for the right wingers to keep starmer looking like hes cocking anything up

Left, right, up, down - he’s cocking up and has been for the past two years - even his own party loathe him. 

[worthosoriginals]

10 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

Left, right, up, down - he’s cocking up and has been for the past two years - even his own party loathe him. 

Here's one of em now.

[leicsmac]

 As this is the US ambassador, what they think of the current US administration and their actions is more important than their thoughts on the UK government - that can be sourced from any such civil servant. I would have thought that obvious. 

 

And, once again, this ambassador is absolutely right with his take on that matter. 

[MPH]

This is incredible… and appears to be genuine- renaming ICE to NICE.

 

 

Edited 29 April by MPH

[Wymsey]

It has been pretty quiet on the US-Greenland matter recently.

[Trav Le Bleu]

44 minutes ago, MPH said:

This is incredible… and appears to be genuine- renaming ICE to NICE.

 

 

 

17 minutes ago, Wymsey said:

It has been pretty quiet on the US-Greenland matter recently.

Yeah, Trump doesn't want ice anymore.

[Trav Le Bleu]

44 minutes ago, MPH said:

This is incredible… and appears to be genuine- renaming ICE to NICE.

 

 

Very. ... let's say 1930s... imagery.

[Free Falling Foxes]

8 hours ago, MPH said:

This is incredible… and appears to be genuine- renaming ICE to NICE.

 

 

I'm sorry we shot your Daddy, but it was for the greater good.

[Lionator]

9 hours ago, Wymsey said:

It has been pretty quiet on the US-Greenland matter recently.

Trump can genuinely only focus on one thing at once and basically gutted the state department so it can’t function. Though if you wanna see what’s really happening strategically you need to follow what Elbridge Colby does and he sets military policy. 

[worthosoriginals]

9 hours ago, Wymsey said:

It has been pretty quiet on the US-Greenland matter recently.

Its ballroom week

[Lionator]

Some of my fellow lefties don’t help themselves or the cause by saying that murderous loser in London today shouldn’t have been kicked in the head during arrest. It looked like reasonable force to me and once you start stabbing innocents, then you obviously lose a layer of societal protection. 

[Trav Le Bleu]

Da da da dah dadada dah dah dah dada...

 

"And this week Strictly Come Dancing live from The White House!"

[leicsmac]

10 hours ago, Lionator said:

Some of my fellow lefties don’t help themselves or the cause by saying that murderous loser in London today shouldn’t have been kicked in the head during arrest. It looked like reasonable force to me and once you start stabbing innocents, then you obviously lose a layer of societal protection. 

Well, yeah. 

 

British fuzz are (thankfully and for the most part) far less keen on bloodthirsty and targeted brutality than their US counterparts and a lot of people tend to forget that. In a situation like that, you get the guy to lay still and no longer be a threat, whilst causing a little harm as possible yourself, as soon as possible. 

 

Can't see that was done in any way incorrectly in this case. 

[Jon the Hat]

1 hour ago, leicsmac said:

Well, yeah. 

 

British fuzz are (thankfully and for the most part) far less keen on bloodthirsty and targeted brutality than their US counterparts and a lot of people tend to forget that. In a situation like that, you get the guy to lay still and no longer be a threat, whilst causing a little harm as possible yourself, as soon as possible. 

 

Can't see that was done in any way incorrectly in this case. 

In many many countries the guy would be shot dead immediately, so on balance kicking him - and not all that hard really - in the head while he was still holding the knife was well within reasonable force. 

Edited 30 April by Jon the Hat

[Trav Le Bleu]

1 hour ago, Jon the Hat said:

In many many countries the guy would be shot dead immediately, so on balance kicking him - and not all that hard really - in the head while he was still holding the knife was well within reasonable force. 

Reasonable force can include actually killing someone. If that was the last resort because the person keeps coming, then you're allowed to use enough "force" that might be deadly.

 

I believe is the law, though I'm open to being corrected.

[Clogger_]

So, so upsetting to read about the stabbings in Golders Green. Utterly dismayed that Jewish people feel unsafe in the UK. While I hope more can be done to provide security, I wish we had better ways to tackle the vile racism that lies behind the violence