General News Thread

[whoareyaaa]

1 minute ago, hackneyfox said:

That would of course be very dependent on where you get stabbed, I would imagine that most stabbing don’t end in death.

Probably some stats out there..

[Danizen]

6 hours ago, Scotch said:

Such a weird press conference.  The director of the FBI actually said "rest Charlie my brother. I'll see you in Valhalla"

Then they read out one of the casings had "if you read this, you are gay LMAO" inscribed in it. Then the governor compared it to JFK....

He's right. I remember watching the documentary where they found a bullet casing with 'Segregation FTW IDST!' written on it.

[Sly]

32 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

Probably some stats out there..

From science direct

 

Link

 

Study May 2015 - April 2018

532 patients were identified;

93% male, median age 26 years

346 (65%) underwent surgery;

133 (25%) required intensive care;

95 (17·9%) received blood transfusion.

 

In-hospital mortality was 10/532 (1·9%).
98 patients (18·5%) had previous attendance with violence-related injuries.

 

24/37 females (64·9%) were injured in a domestic setting.

 

Intoxication with alcohol (19·2%) and illicit drugs (17·6%) was common.

 

Causative weapon was household knife in 9%, knife (other/unspecified) in 38·0%, machete in 13·9%, small folding blade (2·8%) and, unrecorded in 36·3%.

[Sly]

That’s just hospital admissions, so I’d guess the severity and location of where people are stabbed plays a major part in the survival rate. 

[Clogger_]

On the tragic murder in the US, just want to say how impressed I am by the folks on here who haven't jumped to conclusions about the killer or their 'ideology'. Kudos, folks ;-)

 

FWIW there is *much* more to discover before firm conclusions can be drawn. Hopefully the occupant of the White House will learn this lesson before civil war breaks out.

 

 

[ashbyj]

After what’s come out in the news about the incoming president of the Oxford unions disgusting tweets, glorying a man’s death I hope we go to Oxford tomorrow and completely turn the football team over, what a joke Oxford uni has become. 

[Clogger_]

14 minutes ago, ashbyj said:

After what’s come out in the news about the incoming president of the Oxford unions disgusting tweets, glorying a man’s death I hope we go to Oxford tomorrow and completely turn the football team over, what a joke Oxford uni has become. 

Is this view common in Ashby?

 

But agree on wanting a win tomorrow!

 

Since I'm feeling in a good mood after the cricket, I will offer an explanation for my disbelief at the above. Regardless of your personal views on tweets (which seem to me mild compared to much on the horror show that is Twitter) I'm not sure the football club has much relationship to the University. Oxford's a big place with more than a few local residents!

 

And the university is one of our country's foremost assets. Something to be proud of, if you're a patriotic type.

 

And the Union is *not* the university! I'd agree that the Oxford Union has an extremely chequered past!

Edited 12 September 2025 by Clogger_

[The Bear]

1 hour ago, Umbungo78 said:

So you'd support the murder of someone that had different opinions to the child you'd raised so badly that the only way they had to express themselves was to murder someone that they couldn't debate with? 

It's a very big assumption to assume he was badly raised. The fact his dad convinced him to turn himself in indicates that his upbringing probably had nothing to do with his radicalisation. Online political media seems to be the bad guy here. At 22 he's old enough to know better, put it that way. 

[RoboFox]

32 minutes ago, ashbyj said:

After what’s come out in the news about the incoming president of the Oxford unions disgusting tweets, glorying a man’s death I hope we go to Oxford tomorrow and completely turn the football team over, what a joke Oxford uni has become. 

I'd hazard a guess and say in the venn diagram of attendees at Kassam Stadium tomorrow and members of the Oxford Union, the overlap is pretty small. 

[Clogger_]

1 minute ago, RoboFox said:

I'd hazard a guess and say in the venn diagram of attendees at Kassam Stadium tomorrow and members of the Oxford Union, the overlap is pretty small. 

This country would be in inordinately better shape if the overlap was higher!

[ashbyj]

1 minute ago, RoboFox said:

I'd hazard a guess and say in the venn diagram of attendees at Kassam Stadium tomorrow and members of the Oxford Union, the overlap is pretty small. 

Jimmy saville had no association with Leeds football club, not all scousers are thieves, not all derby fans are arsonists, you can associate any negative local rhetoric to the football club to suit when chanting on the terraces.

[Clogger_]

4 minutes ago, ashbyj said:

Jimmy saville had no association with Leeds football club, not all scousers are thieves, not all derby fans are arsonists, you can associate any negative local rhetoric to the football club to suit when chanting on the terraces.

True. Oxford and Cambridge must be used to being called "Tory b******s", which to my mind is as big an insult as I can imagine. Like genuinely traumatic haha

Edited 12 September 2025 by Clogger_

[ashbyj]

11 minutes ago, Clogger_ said:

True. Oxford and Cambridge must be used to being called "Tory b******s", which to my mind is as big an insult as I can imagine. Like genuinely traumatic haha

No I like 'you’re just a uni full of ABB graded students'.  😂

Edited 12 September 2025 by ashbyj

[Jon the Hat]

4 hours ago, Clogger_ said:

On the tragic murder in the US, just want to say how impressed I am by the folks on here who haven't jumped to conclusions about the killer or their 'ideology'. Kudos, folks ;-)

 

FWIW there is *much* more to discover before firm conclusions can be drawn. Hopefully the occupant of the White House will learn this lesson before civil war breaks out.

 

 

We can make some early firm conclusions like "deciding someone is a fascist because you disagree with their views and then concluding the best course of action is to murder them is ****ing stupid".  This does make some assumptions that the killer in question had no personal relationship with Mr Kirk which gave even the slightest cause to his action.

[CornwallFox]

8 hours ago, ashbyj said:

After what’s come out in the news about the incoming president of the Oxford unions disgusting tweets, glorying a man’s death I hope we go to Oxford tomorrow and completely turn the football team over, what a joke Oxford uni has become. 

The fact an individual at a university wrote a tweet does not indicate that everybody at that university, or the university itself, has anything to do with it. 

 

Much like if the shooter turns out to be right/left/gay/religious/satanic/anything else, it doesn't mean anybody else of that group is similarly minded.

 

Half the problems we have in the world stem from us pigeon holing whole groups, particularly if we disagree with them in some way. 

[leicsmac]

28 minutes ago, CornwallFox said:

The fact an individual at a university wrote a tweet does not indicate that everybody at that university, or the university itself, has anything to do with it. 

 

Much like if the shooter turns out to be right/left/gay/religious/satanic/anything else, it doesn't mean anybody else of that group is similarly minded.

 

Half the problems we have in the world stem from us pigeon holing whole groups, particularly if we disagree with them in some way. 

And a lot of the other half stems a lot from the political becoming personal and the obsession with personal legacy, IMO. 

 

Another unhealthy US import. Look at the comments from Kirk's grieving widow about his legacy, for instance. Not "we're mourning, respect our privacy", but "his politics were more important than his life and they go on".

[Sly]

Kirk was divisive that is for sure.

 

The entire flag hugging, MAGA, patriotic thing is lost on me to be honest. 

 

Unfortunately if you’re going to undertake these type of events in a country that allows guns, you’re always putting yourself at risk.

 

In a way, I’m really surprised it doesn’t happen more frequently, or it might be the fact that maybe other rallys that are undertaken by Politicians and Activists have better security. 
 

Then you consider that they’ve had Abraham Lincoln, James Garfield, William McKinlay, John F Kennedy, Robert F Kennedy, Huey Long and even people like Malcolm X, this has gone on for years and it won’t change. 
 

Then you consider that the US had another school shooting in Colorado this week, with 2 students injured, it’s crazy. It just gets swept under the carpet.
 

The reality is, school shootings are getting worse. 386 students have died since 2020. One death should have been enough to change the needle on the dial but they stick to outdated laws with the belief that it’s the correct way forward.

 

It’s such a massive bunny to put back in the box, however the idea of starving them of ammunition that was mentioned a few pages back, would be at least a small step in the right direction. 

[Sly]

1 minute ago, leicsmac said:

And a lot of the other half stems a lot from the political becoming personal and the obsession with personal legacy, IMO. 

 

Another unhealthy US import. Look at the comments from Kirk's grieving widow about his legacy, for instance. Not "we're mourning, respect our privacy", but "his politics were more important than his life and they go on".

I saw that this morning and I thought “wow, this is how they’re going to play this”. 

[st albans fox]

24 minutes ago, Sly said:

I saw that this morning and I thought “wow, this is how they’re going to play this”. 

I’m not surprised

From his videos you see that he was totally committed to the Christian message. He considered himself a servant of god. The message is more important than the messenger. 

The evangelical ‘Bible Belt’ in the states is not something we have here and its understandable that we find it difficult to relate to. 

[Bellend Sebastian]

11 hours ago, OntarioFox said:

It's not. It's coming out in the washing that the fella who did this is a terminally-online edgelord who grew up in a white republican family and was trained to use guns by his own father. Trump is pulling the same quirky nonsense Boris Johnson used to when an inconvenient truth came up. The kid doesn't fit the profile of the people the media are blaming (shame on our rag newspapers for parroting the "trans rights" dogwhistle line by the way, if the bullet engraving comments really are true it's more like the sort of shite 4Chan users still think is funny).

 

Expect this to conveniently leave the news cycle in record time.

Like the guy that shot Trump in the ear, who is less infamous than that woman that put a cat in a bin

[Raj]

https://news.sky.com/story/community-voices-shock-and-fears-after-woman-raped-in-racially-aggravated-attack-13429717

 

 

 

Hope this doesnt spark more trouble.

Sikhs, rightly so, protect their people with vigour.

If the scumbags are caught by the community they will wish they weren't born 

scum

[Trav Le Bleu]

Essentially the 2nd Amendment is the right to kill someone you don't agree with.

[Super_horns]

48 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

I’m not surprised

From his videos you see that he was totally committed to the Christian message. He considered himself a servant of god. The message is more important than the messenger. 

The evangelical ‘Bible Belt’ in the states is not something we have here and its understandable that we find it difficult to relate to. 

The Americans do go big on God , the bible and their faith it seems generally.

 

You see it when sports people are speaking — a tad trivial I know in this  context .

Edited 13 September 2025 by Super_horns

[leicsmac]

42 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

I’m not surprised

From his videos you see that he was totally committed to the Christian message. He considered himself a servant of god. The message is more important than the messenger. 

The evangelical ‘Bible Belt’ in the states is not something we have here and its understandable that we find it difficult to relate to. 

 

5 minutes ago, Super_horns said:

The Americans do go big on God , the bible and their faith it seems generally.

This is true. 

 

The problem comes when that philosophy then ends up affecting the rest of the world through the sheer cultural and other power the US brings to bear. As it did, and does now. 

[StanSP]

13 hours ago, Lionator said:

 

this is quite funny tbf