Abdul Fatawu

[Samilktray]

1 minute ago, Adster said:

 

Yeah. We'd be competing for minus points wouldnt we???

 

Can we stop the sensationalist nonsense please?

Just a constant competition on here to be the most dramatic isnt there

[Adster]

2 minutes ago, Samilktray said:

Just a constant competition on here to be the most dramatic isnt there

Yep. No ounce of critical thinking anywhere. 

[Lambert09]

5 hours ago, dmayne7 said:

Was overcoached by Enzo as basically played as a wing back half the time. But the very things he's being called out for (rightfully); his selfishness, decision making, predictability, were the very things he was amazing at. It's now gone to the other extreme and is given total freedom.

 

He needs a manager who gives him more discipline but not as shackled as an Enzo system demands. Still got incredible potential

I disagree. He was far better under Enzo. Can barely remember a bad game under him. He needed the coaching, it’s his decision making that’s the issue 

Edited 27 April by Lambert09

[Ashley]

5 hours ago, dmayne7 said:

Was overcoached by Enzo as basically played as a wing back half the time. But the very things he's being called out for (rightfully); his selfishness, decision making, predictability, were the very things he was amazing at. It's now gone to the other extreme and is given total freedom.

 

He needs a manager who gives him more discipline but not as shackled as an Enzo system demands. Still got incredible potential

So, he wasnt over coached then? 

[adejo92]

Dislike him more each game. 

 

Massively predictable. 

 

Option A - Cut inside and attempt a shot.

 

Option B - Run to the touchline and run it out of play.

 

I really want to like him, and he's clearly reached a ceiling here for whatever reason.

 

Less Ego, and some good coaching, im sure theres a great player. But a wonder goal ever few months plasters over a very average winger for us now.

 

Wish him luck, wont be sad to see him go.

[Samilktray]

1 minute ago, adejo92 said:

Dislike him more each game. 

 

Massively predictable. 

 

Option A - Cut inside and attempt a shot.

 

Option B - Run to the touchline and run it out of play.

 

I really want to like him, and he's clearly reached a ceiling here for whatever reason.

 

Less Ego, and some good coaching, im sure theres a great player. But a wonder goal ever few months plasters over a very average winger for us now.

 

Wish him luck, wont be sad to see him go.

Bookmarking this post for when we have George Boyd out on the wing next season 

[HankMarvin]

One goal and one assist in his last 12, under the helmets management 

[HybridFox]

Correlation between how Maddison completely tailed off in the second half of the season we went down. Just dont have the character to dig deep when it matters

[HankMarvin]

3 minutes ago, HybridFox said:

Correlation between how Maddison completely tailed off in the second half of the season we went down. Just dont have the character to dig deep when it matters

Don’t you think the manager is responsible for any of the downturn in form? 
He got 4 goals in his previous 7 before Rowetts appointment.

 

[fleckneymike]

Whatever this seasons failing are, Fatawu is so far down the list as to make it almost bordering on hipster to think he’s been part of the problem. 
 

To rely so heavily on a 22 year old coming back from a serious injury once again highlights the failings at the club. The natural dips in form which you’d expect, not just from a 20 year old who started the season with less than 100 starts but also from a player of any age returning from injury, have have had to be persisted with where any other club would rest and rotate. 
 

I can think of almost no occasions where he’s scored thanks to the hard work of others. I can think of almost no occasion where he’s been able to play with anything resembling a striker in front of him to pass to, play off, or learn from. 
 

He’s not the issue. He’s never been the issue. He’s not been perfect or consistent but Christ alive just look at the absolute shower playing with him. 
 

 

 

Edited 27 April by fleckneymike

[dmayne7]

5 hours ago, Ashley said:

So, he wasnt over coached then? 

Might not agree with what I said but it wasn't a contradiction as much as you might want to make out. Enzo put in loads of good aspects to Fatawu's play, but I find it hard to accept anyone could have watched him then and thought that he had the freedom to play outside of Enzo's system. He was basically a wingback at times. Think people forget we had a 10 run game where we were basically the worst team in the league form wise, and a lot of that was clearly system based.

 

Fatawu was great under Enzo but it doesn't mean he was perfect. And those defects were largely a result of the tactical coaching

Edited 27 April by dmayne7

[dmayne7]

1 hour ago, Lambert09 said:

I disagree. He was far better under Enzo. Can barely remember a bad game under him. He needed the coaching, it’s his decision making that’s the issue 

See my follow up post

[majaco]

He will play for a top club

[Stopharage]

4 minutes ago, majaco said:

He will play for a top club

He's already playing for a Top club. 

 

Unfortunately nominative determinism doesn't work in this case.

[wardyfox86]

If I had to choose between doing everything myself or passing the ball to Patson Daka, Bobby DeCordova Reid or Oliver Skipp I know what choice I would make. 

 

I believe half the technically gifted players that could have saved us just gave up through exasperation halfway through the Prem season knowing the other half of the team is made up of Sunday League squad fillers. 

 

He'll be great in a team that has other threats for the opposition to manage, good luck to him. 

[LVFox]

Was easily better under Enzo. I always felt Enzo got onto him quite a lot, especially about when to shoot. He’s missed that since.

 

He was also helped that he had Yunus, McAteer and Albrighton available to rotate, another shambolic decision that we’ve played someone coming back from such a big injury layoff as much as we did this season.

[Katy]

I wonder if he’s seen the replies to that ridiculous post yet. 

[cityfanlee23]

2 hours ago, adejo92 said:

Dislike him more each game. 

 

Massively predictable. 

 

Option A - Cut inside and attempt a shot.

 

Option B - Run to the touchline and run it out of play.

 

I really want to like him, and he's clearly reached a ceiling here for whatever reason.

 

Less Ego, and some good coaching, im sure theres a great player. But a wonder goal ever few months plasters over a very average winger for us now.

 

Wish him luck, wont be sad to see him go.

Agreed, under Enzo Fatawu had acres of space, he constantly had the Ndidi underlap through the midfield channel which opened space for Fatawu to drive into in the middle of the pitch, and when Ndidi didn't underlap, Ricardo would usually overlap. Under Enzo Fatawu always had space, two things have become clear for me. 
1) Fatawu is bang average unless he has loads of space to run into, his decision making is awful
2) When given space to run into things happen, and the fact multiple managers haven't worked this out and tried to find a way to create space for him is astounding. 

He showed all of the hallmarks of being a future £30-50m sale, in the end I think Enzos system massively carried him, and when the system isn't built around him, he really isn't anywhere near as good as we thought. 

[ronnup]

Going so who cares

[Taz_The_Fox]

Has the talent but lacks the brain cells to utilise said talent. 

[VLC86]

1 hour ago, wardyfox86 said:

If I had to choose between doing everything myself or passing the ball to Patson Daka, Bobby DeCordova Reid or Oliver Skipp I know what choice I would make. 

 

I believe half the technically gifted players that could have saved us just gave up through exasperation halfway through the Prem season knowing the other half of the team is made up of Sunday League squad fillers. 

 

He'll be great in a team that has other threats for the opposition to manage, good luck to him. 

It’s funny, because top players often pull others around them up and make them over perform.

 

I get that on paper, Abdul’s contribution has clearly not been the biggest issue we have, but I’m not buying into the thinking that he will play for a top club.

[The Year Of The Fox]

3 hours ago, majaco said:

He will play for a top club

Define ‘top club’

 

He’ll end up at somewhere like Fulham I think

[Sly]

I don’t think he will play for a top club. He’s so far of Mahrez it’s untrue. 

He is never starting regularly for a Chelsea, Manchester City, Liverpool, Arsenal, PSG, Bayern, Juventus, Madrid, Barca etc. I’m not even sure he’d start for the likes of Forest, Brentford, Brighton, Everton now. 

 

I could see him at Spurs, all fart, no shit in reality. 
 

He’s been poor this season and a few highlight reel goals that people see, make for a nice YouTube video, however he is a one trick pony. Cut inside, smash it over the bar 9 times out of 10. He’s Cengiz Under with pace. Against better defenders, I think he will struggle.
 

He will end up someone like Besiktas, PAOK, Al Etihad etc and just tick along. 

[Bergen fox]

Can see him going to a club like Everton 

[LVFox]

28 minutes ago, Bergen fox said:

Can see him going to a club like Everton 

Not for me, maybe Ipswich if they go up, whichever of West Ham or Spurs go down. Maybe a Sunderland or Palace