Cifuentes OUT

[filbertway]

33 minutes ago, Product of 84 said:

Those sides were full of players with something to prove. Pearson got them in because of that. They had fantastic attitudes.

 

Our current players don't seem to want to prove they are good enough. It seems when we purchased them 'character' wasn't as much of a consideration. 

So its nothing to do with travelling distance

[when_you're_smiling]

36 minutes ago, Product of 84 said:

Those sides were full of players with something to prove. Pearson got them in because of that. They had fantastic attitudes.

 

Our current players don't seem to want to prove they are good enough. It seems when we purchased them 'character' wasn't as much of a consideration. 

You probably can't pin the decline on to one thing, but if you could, I'd argue it's because of this, possibly starting from when Congleton came in under Rodgers. Look at what happened to us, Stoke and Sunderland after he came in. 

[Analysethis]

I feel for Cifuentes.

 

Im not saying he would have been my first choice manager, but what a task this bloke has had.

 

Not only does he have to pick up a relegated group of players, he has to do it without the departing Mads, Ndidi, Bilal and Vardy. If those stayed, we would be top of the league no doubt. We also lost players that arguably would challenge to get in the first team in JJ, Kasey. Coady and Coulibaly. All that and we bring in three loans and two free transfer GKs!!

 

In addition to that, we have players that wanted out and loads have been out on loan in recent times (Soumare, Thomas, Hamza. Kristensen) and we know that some of them along with Faes and Winks seemingly were looking for moves.

 

I think when you look at all that upheaval, the boardroom issues, possible sanctions and points deductions, he has done alright. A 6/10. Positives Monga, Page, Nelson have had game time, Stolarcyzk has been backed whilst Silko, Aluko and Evans you know are being considered for game time, that all bodes well for the future.

 

We need to rid of more deadwood and bring in more like Jordan James who look like they are trying and dont have the hang-ups of many of the aforementioned donkeys who I want away from my club, especially Faes and Soumare).

 

Lets hope we look back at this being a transitional period and not one that sees us transition into League 1 LOL. Loads of work lies ahead to get this bunch into a cohesive unit and I dont think Slot or Pep do much better with some of these.

[Clever Fox]

50 minutes ago, Product of 84 said:

I'm sorry but Enzo has gone on to be very successful at Chelsea. There isn't many managers out there that are successful at creating the kind of culture he does at football clubs. That's why he is at Chelsea and arguably being more successful than Potter and Poch. 

 

I don't see any replacement for Marti being the same quality as Enzo. In fact I fear we will roll the dice on another manager and find Marti was actually alright. I don't think we are in a position where we can afford to take that risk at the moment. 

Enzo is an elite manager and yet some on here thought he was rubbish because he didn't play it long. We wore teams down with possession and movement.

When you think he done it largely with the players he inherited.

[adamkhalifa]

I am not a fan of what MC has produced. He talks a good game, and that's about it.  

Very much a reactive personality. 

I have no idea what they do in training. They all look like a individuals trying to understand each other on matchday. 

With all the In's and Out's this season, owner, player power, Rudkin, sun and moon alignment. 2 wins in 11 games, is just not good enough. 

[MC Prussian]

Again, his tactics and substitutions baffled me.

 

We were second-best for 75 minutes against one of the worst teams in the league right now.

The equalizer came out of nowhere, a product of sheer luck.

 

Our football continues to be a pain to watch.

Whatever way you want to spin it, 2 wins in 11 matches or 3 wins in 12 matches, that's underwhelming to bad.

 

The win against Norwich has bought Cifuentes some time. To rethink his approach and to finally settle for a starting XI.

 

Also, we need a third striker in January. And two more outfield defenders.

[Vindaloo FOX]

2 hours ago, lgfualol said:

Obvious we’ll give him the break and lose our first game, then he’ll get sacked without a replacement lined up

The Leicester way 🤣

[JJD_LCFC]

4 hours ago, Analysethis said:

I feel for Cifuentes.

 

Im not saying he would have been my first choice manager, but what a task this bloke has had.

 

Not only does he have to pick up a relegated group of players, he has to do it without the departing Mads, Ndidi, Bilal and Vardy. If those stayed, we would be top of the league no doubt. We also lost players that arguably would challenge to get in the first team in JJ, Kasey. Coady and Coulibaly. All that and we bring in three loans and two free transfer GKs!!

 

In addition to that, we have players that wanted out and loads have been out on loan in recent times (Soumare, Thomas, Hamza. Kristensen) and we know that some of them along with Faes and Winks seemingly were looking for moves.

 

I think when you look at all that upheaval, the boardroom issues, possible sanctions and points deductions, he has done alright. A 6/10. Positives Monga, Page, Nelson have had game time, Stolarcyzk has been backed whilst Silko, Aluko and Evans you know are being considered for game time, that all bodes well for the future.

 

We need to rid of more deadwood and bring in more like Jordan James who look like they are trying and dont have the hang-ups of many of the aforementioned donkeys who I want away from my club, especially Faes and Soumare).

 

Let’s hope we look back at this being a transitional period and not one that sees us transition into League 1 LOL. Loads of work lies ahead to get this bunch into a cohesive unit and I dont think Slot or Pep do much better with some of these.

Agreed, He has been given a huge task. But in my opinion he is not up to the job. 
talks a good game. Delivers nothing. 
I disagree by saying positive is game time to Nelson. Wasn’t even in the squad for 12 league games. It should not take our manager who sees the players every day, until the 13th game of a season  to give game time to our most promising and best defender. 

I just don’t see anything in him that makes me think he is the right manager to take on this job. 
definitely need to remove deadwood. But that should have been done in the summer. Faes, just get rid. Offer for free. Same for soumare. 
 

You are certainly correct that is a huge squad upheaval and it is a really difficult job. Losing Vardy, Ndidi, Bilal, certainly weakened the team massively. 
But 5 wins in 15 games in the championship, I expect better. Even with the current squad. 

[Gamble92]

He should be doing a lot better. Even the squad in its current state should be right near the top and no one will convince me otherwise. 

 

Looking at the other squads on paper there's hardly anyone I would swap based purely on talent. 

[trooky]

9 hours ago, Product of 84 said:

Agreed. My point was we have a set of players that play because it's work rather than to represent Leicester City. Winks included

I don't understand your point, football players play because they are professionals and it's 'work'. 

 

Players are on relatively short contracts and will play for several clubs over a career. 

 

Those with families will not uproot them to move to their latest team, it's not just a Leicester thing. 

 

[Pliskin]

8 hours ago, Analysethis said:

I feel for Cifuentes.

 

Im not saying he would have been my first choice manager, but what a task this bloke has had.

 

Not only does he have to pick up a relegated group of players, he has to do it without the departing Mads, Ndidi, Bilal and Vardy. If those stayed, we would be top of the league no doubt. We also lost players that arguably would challenge to get in the first team in JJ, Kasey. Coady and Coulibaly. All that and we bring in three loans and two free transfer GKs!!

 

In addition to that, we have players that wanted out and loads have been out on loan in recent times (Soumare, Thomas, Hamza. Kristensen) and we know that some of them along with Faes and Winks seemingly were looking for moves.

 

I think when you look at all that upheaval, the boardroom issues, possible sanctions and points deductions, he has done alright. A 6/10. Positives Monga, Page, Nelson have had game time, Stolarcyzk has been backed whilst Silko, Aluko and Evans you know are being considered for game time, that all bodes well for the future.

 

We need to rid of more deadwood and bring in more like Jordan James who look like they are trying and dont have the hang-ups of many of the aforementioned donkeys who I want away from my club, especially Faes and Soumare).

 

Lets hope we look back at this being a transitional period and not one that sees us transition into League 1 LOL. Loads of work lies ahead to get this bunch into a cohesive unit and I dont think Slot or Pep do much better with some of these.

That’s all well and good, but tactically he is hideous….

 

He is trying to play in a way what isn’t to the players strengths, he’s getting the side to play to his preferred way and it’s killing us. 
 

He always picks the wrong side, can never get it right, and we’re so slow, unimaginative and ineffective and statistically are one of the worst sides in the league. 
 

It’s not necessarily his fault, because he plays a certain way and that’s it, it’s firmly Top and Rudkins fault for hiring the wrong type of manager, again. 
 

The players showing a bit of initiative will spare him….. he should be sacked this weekend, and we simply have to go for a manager who will maximise the potential in the team…… we would probably be doing much better if we abandoned the desire to play perfect football all of the time, when we don’t have the resources to do it, and became a bit more gritty and direct. 
 

Any other team we would have lost that game, we only won because it’s Norwich, they’re below average…. They’ve now lost 8 home games in a row…….. and we only narrowly beat them, and looked garbage for about 80 minutes….. there’s no positives to take from that…..

Edited 9 November 2025 by Pliskin

[jayfox26]

9 minutes ago, trooky said:

I don't understand your point, football players play because they are professionals and it's 'work'. 

 

Players are on relatively short contracts and will play for several clubs over a career. 

 

Those with families will not uproot them to move to their latest team, it's not just a Leicester thing. 

 

I think the point being made is that many of our players lack any passion or pride. Nobody is expecting us to have a 25 man squad full of Leicester fans but historically over the years, even when we've been crap, we've had a squad of fighters that show passion for the club and want the club to do well. 

 

Whilst we don't know any of them personally, it genuinely feels like some of them don't care too much about whether we win or lose, it's just about their big pay packet they are getting paid. 

[jayfox26]

5 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

That’s all well and good, but tactically he is hideous….

 

He is trying to play in a way what isn’t to the players strengths, he’s getting the side to play to his preferred way and it’s killing us. 
 

He always picks the wrong side, can never get it right, and we’re so slow, unimaginative and ineffective and statistically are one of the worst sides in the league. 
 

It’s not necessarily his fault, because he plays a certain way and that’s it, it’s firmly Top and Rudkins fault for hiring the wrong type of manager, again. 
 

The players showing a bit of initiative will spare him….. he should be sacked this weekend, and we simply have to go for a manager who will maximise the potential in the team…… we would probably be doing much better if we abandoned the desire to play perfect football all of the time, when we don’t have the resources to do it, and became a bit more gritty and direct. 
 

Any other team we would have lost that game, we only won because it’s Norwich, they’re below average…. They’ve now lost 8 home games in a row…….. and we only narrowly beat them, and looked garbage for about 80 minutes….. there’s no positives to take from that…..

Agreed, if we made the right change (big if with Top and Rudkin in charge) I think we'd see a bounce and uplift in performances and results like Southampton have had. 

[JimJams]

I don't think a lot of them do care because we've got players who want out and players who are in their final year who likely won't be here next season, so largely don't give a shit where we are as a club by then.

[Dahnsouff]

6 minutes ago, jayfox26 said:

Agreed, if we made the right change (big if with Top and Rudkin in charge) I think we'd see a bounce and uplift in performances and results like Southampton have had. 

There is zero evidence from the last 3 appointments this would be the case though.

[Claudio Fannieri]

Everyone was buzzing about the Fioretina performance and how that style would bode for the season and then something changed almost overnight, I would love to know what it was, it feels to me that is the level Cifuentes wants but something, somebody or a group don’t like it so it ain’t happening. 
 

It doesn’t add up. 

[ClaphamFox]

15 minutes ago, jayfox26 said:

Agreed, if we made the right change (big if with Top and Rudkin in charge) I think we'd see a bounce and uplift in performances and results like Southampton have had. 

It will be interesting to see how long Southampton’s revival lasts if/when they appoint Gary O’Neil. 

[trooky]

7 minutes ago, jayfox26 said:

I think the point being made is that many of our players lack any passion or pride. Nobody is expecting us to have a 25 man squad full of Leicester fans but historically over the years, even when we've been crap, we've had a squad of fighters that show passion for the club and want the club to do well. 

 

Whilst we don't know any of them personally, it genuinely feels like some of them don't care too much about whether we win or lose, it's just about their big pay packet they are getting paid. 

We're crap now, but we've assembled a squad of players with very few fighters. 

 

It's not a description you would use for many of our players even  when playing at their primes for previous clubs. 

 

James and Fatawu play with desire, Faes and Hamza show fight but are hated, Okoli will put his body on the line. Winks and Ayew  look like they care IMO. 

 

All our other players aren't those types of characters and only look good in a confident team. 

[Donwebbio]

4 minutes ago, jayfox26 said:

Agreed, if we made the right change (big if with Top and Rudkin in charge) I think we'd see a bounce and uplift in performances and results like Southampton have had. 

Even if we made a change and got in, by chance, a progressive young manager who got increased performance and an uptick in results. Isn't that just papering over the cracks? Isn't that just pretending that things are good at the top of the club and we just need a good manager to complete the vision?

 

It would be a matter of time before that progressive manager realised that he doesn't have a DoF who would do anything but sign players on recommendation from agents for inflated fees and inflated wages with disregard for character or attitude of player. It would be a matter of time before realising that the club is in a huge financial hole caused by mismanagement of funds and that there is a culture of failure emanating from the very top of the organisation. It would be a matter of time before he jumps ship to a better prospect. Exactly what happened with Enzo. Another new manager is just delaying the day when Aiya-twat runs out of road and sells up.

[ClaphamFox]

7 minutes ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

Everyone was buzzing about the Fioretina performance and how that style would bode for the season and then something changed almost overnight, I would love to know what it was, it feels to me that is the level Cifuentes wants but something, somebody or a group don’t like it so it ain’t happening. 
 

It doesn’t add up. 

After our 3-1 win at Swansea I received a lengthy text message from a Swansea-supporting friend going on about how we were ‘levels above’ anybody else they’d played this season and were certs for automatic promotion. Even Coventry fans acknowledged we were the best team they’d played this season after they were lucky to go home with a point against us. The promise was there earlier in the season - something has gone very badly wrong since. 

[trooky]

1 hour ago, ClaphamFox said:

After our 3-1 win at Swansea I received a lengthy text message from a Swansea-supporting friend going on about how we were ‘levels above’ anybody else they’d played this season and were certs for automatic promotion. Even Coventry fans acknowledged we were the best team they’d played this season after they were lucky to go home with a point against us. The promise was there earlier in the season - something has gone very badly wrong since. 

Yep, we played Coventry off the park without scoring .

 

Not sure why we've gone off the boil, but the manager has changed the starting line up alot searching for a solution at 9 and 10

Edited 9 November 2025 by trooky

[Claudio Fannieri]

21 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

After our 3-1 win at Swansea I received a lengthy text message from a Swansea-supporting friend going on about how we were ‘levels above’ anybody else they’d played this season and were certs for automatic promotion. Even Coventry fans acknowledged we were the best team they’d played this season after they were lucky to go home with a point against us. The promise was there earlier in the season - something has gone very badly wrong since. 

I think it’s very much the culture and the fact we have a group of players wanting out or knowing they won’t be here next season who to put it simply don’t care enough and I think this is making it difficult to find consistency and create any kind of team spirit and cohesion. I imagine it’s a pretty toxic environment at the moment and not one that would be great for young players to thrive in nor too build a promotion challenge. 

Edited 9 November 2025 by Claudio Fannieri

[Lesta2014]

Heard his interview with owyn on radio Leicester yesterday. Owyn said something about players looking together, marti responded with it takes time to change the culture and we aren’t there in that sense yet and there’s still work to do. 
 

makes sense given some of the performances we’ve seen lately, I wonder if focusing on this has sacrificed his ‘style’ and how we want to play so far?

[sm1]

27 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

After our 3-1 win at Swansea I received a lengthy text message from a Swansea-supporting friend going on about how we were ‘levels above’ anybody else they’d played this season and were certs for automatic promotion. Even Coventry fans acknowledged we were the best team they’d played this season after they were lucky to go home with a point against us. The promise was there earlier in the season - something has gone very badly wrong since. 

We've got a squad good enough to be mixing at the top. The majority of the team that walked the championship is here plus we have JJ. Yes, there are glaring issues at striker, but that's where a top coach comes into effect. When Enzo moved Ndidi to CAM, most felt it was a wrong decision. He made it work by giving him a clear role. Mavs and Fats looked much better because Enzo isolated them 1:1 with opponents. Even Daka had a golden period just before Afcon. The longer Marti has been here the worse we've got. He's shown zero ability to solve these conundrums. 

[Tommy Fresh]

49 minutes ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

Everyone was buzzing about the Fioretina performance and how that style would bode for the season and then something changed almost overnight, I would love to know what it was, it feels to me that is the level Cifuentes wants but something, somebody or a group don’t like it so it ain’t happening. 
 

It doesn’t add up. 

If that's the case that's on him though, don't pick the players who aren't following instructions