Lineker's Left Foot Posted 22 January Posted 22 January 6 hours ago, winteriscoming said: Ex players rarely do well coming back as a manager at a former club. I genuinely can’t think of many that have been successful. I don’t want King taking over on an interim basis till the end of the season. If it’s just till the end of the season I’d have Mowbray with King continuing in the coaching role. Ex player that was a successful manager?Kenny Dalglish at Liverpool in the late 80s
Stadt Posted 22 January Posted 22 January 56 minutes ago, adejo92 said: No thanks. We won't have the money to sack Cifuentes, only to pay him on gardening leave
Guppys Love Child Posted 22 January Posted 22 January 21 minutes ago, Stadt said: We won't have the money to sack Cifuentes, only to pay him on gardening leave Then I'll lend him my mums gardening gloves and buy him a £10 voucher for Palmers out of my own money if it got the useless tw@t and his influence away from the club. 1
winteriscoming Posted 22 January Posted 22 January 1 hour ago, Lineker's Left Foot said: Ex player that was a successful manager?Kenny Dalglish at Liverpool in the late 80s That’s what I mean there isn’t anyone in recent years who’s done well going back to a club as a manager. Really don’t want King getting it even on an interim basis.
teblin Posted 22 January Posted 22 January 2 minutes ago, winteriscoming said: That’s what I mean there isn’t anyone in recent years who’s done well going back to a club as a manager. Really don’t want King getting it even on an interim basis. Pep?
winteriscoming Posted 22 January Posted 22 January 9 minutes ago, teblin said: Pep? Ok. But that’s still 15 years ago+. It’s Barcelona as well nobody has done it recently at the same sort of level as us. It’s extremely rare for ex players to do well when they return as a manager.
Greg2607 Posted 22 January Posted 22 January Zidane? Ancelloti? Diego Simeone? Conte? Arteta? but OTHER than them.... who has actually done it! 2
teblin Posted 22 January Posted 22 January 2 minutes ago, winteriscoming said: Ok. But that’s still 15 years ago+. It’s Barcelona as well nobody has done it recently at the same sort of level as us. It’s extremely rare for ex players to do well when they return as a manager. Yep agree was the only one I could think of who has done really well. Chris Wilder has done ok at Sheff U i guess not many granted.
winteriscoming Posted 22 January Posted 22 January 4 minutes ago, Greg2607 said: Zidane? Ancelloti? Diego Simeone? Conte? Arteta? but OTHER than them.... who has actually done it! Yes and all of them at a much higher level than us. Give me an example of someone at a similar level to us.
Greg2607 Posted 22 January Posted 22 January (edited) 4 minutes ago, winteriscoming said: Yes and all of them at a much higher level than us. Give me an example of someone at a similar level to us. but that wasn't your initial point. It was that ex players don't normally get success as managers at the clubs they've played for. Now, I don't disagree, we SHOULDN'T take a punt on King... the margin for error is far too small and we don't have time for him to learn on the job. it doesn't mean he COULDN'T be successful, but the odds are firmly stacked against him. Let's be honest, the odds are firmly stacked against any manager, with the makeup of our current squad. we may well roll the dice... but I don't think the next person off the conveyor belt will be an improvement. And they DEFINITELY won't satisfy the fan base. Edited 22 January by Greg2607
winteriscoming Posted 22 January Posted 22 January 1 minute ago, Greg2607 said: but that wasn't your initial point. It was that ex players don't normally get success as managers at the clubs they've played for. Now, I don't disagree, we SHOULDN'T take a punt on King... the margin for error is far too small and we don't have time for him to learn on the job. it doesn't mean he COULDN'T be successful, but the odds are firmly stacked against him. Let's be honest, the odds are firmly stacked against any manager, with the makeup of our current squad. we may well roll the dice... but I don't think the next person off the conveyor belt will be an improvement. And they DEFINITELY won't satisfy the fan base. I admit I should have been clearer with my original comment but I just think it’s a huge risk going for a fan favourite and expecting something different from someone with very little coaching experience. I’d keep King in the coaching set up but would rather we get someone like Mowbray until the end of the season or Hassenhutl long term.
Popular Post Katy Posted 22 January Popular Post Posted 22 January No to Kingy. He’s too precious to get involved with this shit show, keep him where he is. 6
Foxmeister Posted 23 January Posted 23 January 9 hours ago, winteriscoming said: Yes and all of them at a much higher level than us. Give me an example of someone at a similar level to us. If they were at a similar level to us then they can’t possibly have done well.
LCFCJohn Posted 23 January Posted 23 January 14 hours ago, winteriscoming said: Yes and all of them at a much higher level than us. Give me an example of someone at a similar level to us. Challinor at Stockport? Doing a phenomenal job. Eustace at Derby is doing quite well given where we were.
Popular Post Dan Posted 23 January Popular Post Posted 23 January WYS pod with Dom Wells and Mike Stowell is a good listen. Completely rip apart our 'tactics'. Cifuentes has got to go. Would say other than Manning he's offered the worst performance of any manager in this division this season. 6
Trav Le Bleu Posted 23 January Posted 23 January 16 hours ago, Lineker's Left Foot said: Ex player that was a successful manager?Kenny Dalglish at Liverpool in the late 80s Souness. Vialli. De Matteo. Arteta. Howe.
splinterdream Posted 23 January Posted 23 January Excellent podcast analysis on WYS. Stowelly doesn't hold back on his criticism, but tbh the analysis shows how inept Marti and the coaching staff are 2
ClaphamFox Posted 23 January Posted 23 January 2 hours ago, Trav Le Bleu said: Souness. Vialli. De Matteo. Arteta. Howe. It's rare. There is no evidence whatsoever that managers who used to play for their club bring any advantage over those who didn't. If a former player happens to be the most qualified for a vacant manager's position, fine. But when choosing a new manager, no weight should be given to whether he used to play for us. 1
Silebyfox_89 Posted 23 January Posted 23 January Carlos vicens. Peps assistant for 5 years and doing well at braga.
Trav Le Bleu Posted 23 January Posted 23 January 8 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said: It's rare. There is no evidence whatsoever that managers who used to play for their club bring any advantage over those who didn't. If a former player happens to be the most qualified for a vacant manager's position, fine. But when choosing a new manager, no weight should be given to whether he used to play for us. No, I agree, but then it's also fairly rare that clubs appoint former players. I'd say, as a rule, former players are no better or worse, but that fans will either be very nostalgic if they're successful or judge them more harshly if they're not. 1
alanf0x Posted 23 January Posted 23 January 22 hours ago, FrankieADZ said: can fans stop suggesting Pearson to come in etc, hes not well enough to remotely do any sort of managers job atm christ Add to the fact he was team Whelan and hates Rudkin...absolute no chance of this happening (unless Rudkin was removed from his position) 1
BKLFox Posted 23 January Posted 23 January Dyche doing a fantastic job of returning to destroy Forest
LVFox Posted 23 January Posted 23 January Any replacement would be someone out of work, the list isn’t wholly attractive but still feel the following could get enough of an improvement to see us in the play offs (before points deduction) Jon Dahl Tomasson Will Still Ralph Hassenhuttl Carlos Carvalhal
RoboFox Posted 23 January Posted 23 January 32 minutes ago, splinterdream said: Excellent podcast analysis on WYS. Stowelly doesn't hold back on his criticism, but tbh the analysis shows how inept Marti and the coaching staff are Came to say exactly this. They basically eviscerated his ideas. Very cathartic to and It really confirmed exactly what all of us have been saying all along: This bloke has absolutely no plan and is ****ing useless. 2
Freddy Posted 23 January Posted 23 January 1 minute ago, RoboFox said: Came to say exactly this. They basically eviscerated his ideas. Very cathartic to and It really confirmed exactly what all of us have been saying all along: This bloke has absolutely no plan and is ****ing useless. Was only just this minute listening and agree, Stowell is spot on. And when looking for a new manager, perhaps the hardest thing for me to understand, is the names that would actually consider us worthwhile. Couple years ago LCFC would have been quite tempting for a ot of decent managers. Not anymore.
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