How low

[Legend_in_blue]

The fact is we've not arrived there yet.  Still further to sink.

[RonnieTodger]

We scored a last minute goal and it still felt like a defeat. 

[The Year Of The Fox]

I don’t understand this comparison to the 2008 bunch. The supposed quality of player we have now is supposedly higher. How many internationals did we have in 08? Hume and Kisnorbo? 
 

Either way, the effort from the players back then was there- they were just crap. End of. 
 

Now, the players don’t care because those above them don’t care. Nobody is holding the players, management or the owners to account. 
 

I genuinely feel like we’re shitter now than at any point in my lifetime of being a City fan (1994) 

 

Holloway and his merry men are largely badly regarded around here, but I think this bunch will out do them before long. 
 

If we had Holloway’s 11 in this league we’d be performing better 

[The Year Of The Fox]

I’ll add to this too

 

That season we beat Forest away after giving them a goal head start from KO, beat PL Villa away, and then had Chelsea away on the ropes being 3-2 up with 5 mins remaining 

 

 

None of those 3 things would happen with this lot, even if Forest were as shit as they were in 2007

[Dollfhin]

Honestly, I've been very "who cares as long as we don't go down" for some reason this year. But travelling 3 hours on a coach there and back, and the best part of the evening being going into the "Disney Pub", really is concerning. I didn't celebrate the goal and am just sick of this lot.

 

This year I accepted we were basically going to do nothing and wait 2 more years for a "rebuild" but this is just awful to watch. Don't think I've enjoyed watching us since Brendan and that hurts to say. 

[Corky]

It was the continuation of one of the worst football teams in the country over the past 17 months undeservedly claiming another point. We sit through garbage most weeks (and statistics bear this out, it isn't hyperbole) and it is almost a toss of a coin to see if we get something out of it.

 

It started against Tottenham and will continue for a while yet 

[Golden Fox]

6 hours ago, foxile5 said:

Yesterday I had totally forgotten we were playing and missed the game. 

Snap.

 

I looked at the football scores at about 10pm last night, and saw there had been Championship games on, and then saw we had played.

 

First time I'd not even realised we were playing since 0-0 at Bradford away in the Premier League over 20 years ago.

 

In my defense, the 49ers in the NFL Playoffs are much bigger games than the drudgery of a 46 game season, so was the big game I'd had circled on the calendar, and I've been sulking since Sunday morning.

 

But let's face it, football is an entertainment business, and this c**p at the moment is just not entertaining.

[ousefox]

I totally forgot we were playing yesterday. I had a busy day but I never do that. Watched 20 mins on my phone while I was waiting to meet a mate and that was enough.

[Dan]

Maybe it was age, naivety but I don't even remember it being this bad under Holloway. The results actually hurt me, which just feels natural.

 

I wasn't even that hurt by Coventry. I was far more annoyed they'd won, than we'd lost, if that makes sense.

 

I think I'm so at odds with this regime that I just can't get angry about anything that makes them look bad. It shouldn't feel like this. But it has done personally for years now.

 

I think the last time I felt genuinely hurt by what happened with LCFC was when Rodgers survived the Brighton/Tottenham scandals and everything since then has felt like a natural procession. It was a level of incompetence so extraordinary that I knew we were going to fall off big style.

 

My fears that the owner had such staunch, unconditional backing from sections of our support have also been realised. To the point that it's totally divided the fanbase.

 

This shipwreck can certainly hit League One. I feel like after what's happened with Chansiri this season, we may have a safety net that prevents us from League Two. Make no mistake though - if this owner was allowed free reign, he is capable of taking us there. He is 'that' bad.

[Parafox]

I watched on TV last night.

 

I can't remember how or by whom the equaliser was scored, and it's nothing to do with age or alcohol.

 

It's down to apathy 

 

 

 

 

Edited 21 January by Parafox

[jayfox26]

7 hours ago, murphy said:

I can't agree with your second paragraph.  The data is poor because the players are not committed and we don't have a coherent team, not because they are not good enough for this level.  Many have played at a higher level than this and the squad cost around £150m.  That's why it is a scandal that they are stinking out the championship.  Minds are elsewhere. 

 

 

There's clearly a lack of motivation and whilst any good pro should be self motivated, especially when they are the highest earning players in the league, motivation and culture comes from the very top. Our owner and board don't care, the manager is clueless, the fans have become disinterested and the whole atmosphere in and around the club just stinks. A combination of lack of motivation and a lack of confidence added with the fact that some of our squad are just crap, doesn't bode well. Not to mention our manager has no idea how to set us up and is massively out of his depth. 

[splinterdream]

The club is in a downward spiral and no one in football wants to be part of that

[bovril]

7 hours ago, fazzyfox said:

I just laughed at the goal, it was surreal and felt a bit sorry for Wrexham, not that they’d had to put in much to be in a winning position, it just felt like the wrong conclusion to a half / game where we’d offered nothing. 

Our previous low under Hollohead, at least the likes of Hume, Macauley, Fryatt and Kisnorbo played like they cared, we had limited players stretching out by giving it a go to try to prevent the relegation, at least trying to turn it around.

Generally agree and I'm nitpicking here but Fryatt was often a lazy bastard in my memory, especially in 07/08.

[Guy]

Does anybody think this is worse (or could get worse) than the infamous, lengthy Mike Ashley ownership of Newcastle??

[SystonFox]

4 minutes ago, Guy said:

Does anybody think this is worse (or could get worse) than the infamous, lengthy Mike Ashley ownership of Newcastle??

Not for me purely because this guy Ashley was a cockwomble and he knew it. Our lot are just inept. Bad decision after bad decision

[oxtonfox]

8 hours ago, Finn Claw II said:

As long as we are not relegated this season is transition. 

 

players I can get behind next season:

Nelson, Monga, Page, James, then some of youth players on loan. Abdul will go

 

players I’m neutral on:

Mavi, BDR, Skipp, Jacub 

 

Wild cards as they have been injured so long I’ve forgotten about them:

Soutttar, Kristiansen

 

We’ll be down to the bare bones so at least there has to be fresh signings to change the dynamic of the squad.

 

Vesty, Faes and Hamza are all overpaid and need to be loaned out (I’m sure there are more!)

 

 

 

After Monacos thrashing last night I’m sure Faes will be on a swift return to sender. 

[oxtonfox]

I was really peed off when we equalised. I had £25 on a Wrexham win and I cared a lot more for that than my team getting a point.

First time I have really felt that in 40 years of supporting. 

Shows you where we are with this club. 

[The Fosse Way]

2 minutes ago, oxtonfox said:

After Monacos thrashing last night I’m sure Faes will be on a swift return to sender. 

He’s not registered to play in the Champions League.

 

The guy who replaced him scored an own goal and made two errors leading to goals.

 

He’s being shown round Seagrave tomorrow.

[Dan]

8 hours ago, murphy said:

We've been crap before.  It's not much fun, but but you can get behind crap players playing to the best of their ability. 

 

This is different.  This is a moribund team punching well below it's weight.  Going through the motions.  As supporters, we can tell and why woukd you support that? 

 

Also, the clubi is so appallingly run that our demise is entirely self-inflicted and the mistakes of the past get repeated and I think we are resigned to the fact that they will continue to be repeated going forward which takes away hope. 

Yep - it's been the case since about 2021. It's ingrained. Whatever our 'level' is you can knock off probably 15-20 points. I even think in 2023/24 we had potential to get more points than we got. It's why we'll go down again. When we have a team that 'should' finish around 16th, we will underperform enough to knock us down.

[trabuch]

Can't see this thread title without thinking of this. And it seems kind of appropriate so what the heck
 

 

[murphy]

3 minutes ago, trabuch said:

Can't see this thread title without thinking of this. And it seems kind of appropriate so what the heck
 

 

I always thought he was saying 'hello' 

[trabuch]

Just now, murphy said:

I always thought he was saying 'hello' 

Hello hello hello how low I think.

[Vestan Pance]

7 hours ago, sycokilla said:

 I think the club had no ambition to go up this year as they realised it was almost impossible with points deduction,  spending curtailed and a few highly paid players leaving at the end of this season. It all pointed to the next big push being next season.

unfortunately the apathy from the management has seeped into the players and the fanbase.

The mistake you've made here is thinking this club is still capable of putting together any coherent plan😂 I can understand why this awful team might make you think they aren't trying their best this season, so you've come up with an explanation to fit how utterly dreadful it all is, but I wouldn't get your hopes up for next season 🫣

[Paninistickers]

6 minutes ago, Vestan Pance said:

The mistake you've made here is thinking this club is still capable of putting together any coherent plan😂 I can understand why this awful team might make you think they aren't trying their best this season, so you've come up with an explanation to fit how utterly dreadful it all is, but I wouldn't get your hopes up for next season 🫣

Agree

 

The professional competency at the club is just so beta. Rudkin is the ultimate beta male. Subservient, lacklustre, low-T.

 

These pheromones are permeating every level of the organisation. 

 

There's no masterplan. 

[Finn Claw II]

39 minutes ago, oxtonfox said:

After Monacos thrashing last night I’m sure Faes will be on a swift return to sender. 

Yup but hopefully someone else (anyone else) will take him next season.