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Absolute *** of our time Pt.MXXVI

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urban.spaceman

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2 hours ago, Parafox said:

And why is that? Funding cuts, maybe. Once again the vulnerable are exposed and put at risk as result of funding cuts, not just Tories but Labour too, although the Tories have acted in the worst manner with regards to those in society who have the least and are the most vulnerable. Universal Credit, albeit a different subject to the one being discussed here, is as absolutely as cruel and heartless as it gets. 

www.crisis.org.uk/ending-homelessness/benefits-and-employment/universal-credit/

I went on UC for the first time last year at the start of the pandemic because I decided to stop working. (That was a choice designed to protect the person I'm a carer for in favour of keeping him save. Well, I say choice, it was a decision forced on me by the government's failure to take the pandemic seriously from the get-go)

 

Anyway, in October last year my 'case manager' who I'd developed a decent relationship with over various phone meetings, changed her tone and said I would have to actively look for work or they'd cut me off. When I reminded her we were in the middle of a pandemic, she suggested looking for retail work. Leicester was still in lockdown and the shops were shut, I reminded her. Then she suggested bar work. Again, Leicester was still in lockdown and the pubs were all shut still. She sighed and eventually ended the call. Cut to June or so this year when face to face appointments could resume. I met her for the first time and she admitted that they were under pressure from above to cut people off as much as they could. 

 

This October the Secretary of work and pensions Therese Coffey justified cutting the £20 a week (£1040 a year) extra support (brought in by Sunak at the start of the pandemic) by saying they should "just work an extra 2 hours" to earn the £20 back (40% of people on Universal Credit are already in work). You'd actually have to work an extra 9 to get back what they'd took.

 

My "support" for the whole of October was £56, so calculated because I'd managed to do a few hours of my previous job. Coffey is paid £82k a year as an MP, another £72k as a Secretary of State, and claimed £200k in expenses. We also pay for her sister to act as her casual secretary.

 

Some of those expenses include 31p for a banner and very often £1 for parking. Over the last 10 years we've paid out for her congestion charges 100 times (between £8 and £65 a pop).

 

But don't forget, it's the people on benefits who are scroungers.

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Jon the Hat

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8 hours ago, Finnaldo said:


In which case it could be considered that there may be issues around pay, working conditions and/or training paths, which is tied to policy. 

It’s part of it.  The vilification of people doing their best by the media doesn’t help either.

Jon the Hat

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1 hour ago, urban.spaceman said:

I went on UC for the first time last year at the start of the pandemic because I decided to stop working. (That was a choice designed to protect the person I'm a carer for in favour of keeping him save. Well, I say choice, it was a decision forced on me by the government's failure to take the pandemic seriously from the get-go)

 

Anyway, in October last year my 'case manager' who I'd developed a decent relationship with over various phone meetings, changed her tone and said I would have to actively look for work or they'd cut me off. When I reminded her we were in the middle of a pandemic, she suggested looking for retail work. Leicester was still in lockdown and the shops were shut, I reminded her. Then she suggested bar work. Again, Leicester was still in lockdown and the pubs were all shut still. She sighed and eventually ended the call. Cut to June or so this year when face to face appointments could resume. I met her for the first time and she admitted that they were under pressure from above to cut people off as much as they could. 

 

This October the Secretary of work and pensions Therese Coffey justified cutting the £20 a week (£1040 a year) extra support (brought in by Sunak at the start of the pandemic) by saying they should "just work an extra 2 hours" to earn the £20 back (40% of people on Universal Credit are already in work). You'd actually have to work an extra 9 to get back what they'd took.

 

My "support" for the whole of October was £56, so calculated because I'd managed to do a few hours of my previous job. Coffey is paid £82k a year as an MP, another £72k as a Secretary of State, and claimed £200k in expenses. We also pay for her sister to act as her casual secretary.

 

Some of those expenses include 31p for a banner and very often £1 for parking. Over the last 10 years we've paid out for her congestion charges 100 times (between £8 and £65 a pop).

 

But don't forget, it's the people on benefits who are scroungers.

You seem to be conflating two completely different issues.  MP salaries are pretty reasonable in comparison to just about any other profession.  Expenses are allowed to ensure that we don’t end up with only wealthy politicians who can self find their roles. 
 

The UC issue I’m a little conflicted on. I like the concept of one payment, it’s efficient and makes sense, however I do think your example of caseworkers being pressured / targeted to reduce payments etc is rife and no doubt this creates an environment where people are failed by the system.  Honestly speaking the levels are also probably too low even with the £20.  We’ve proven we can and should put more funding into welfare over the past two years.

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urban.spaceman

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On 14/12/2021 at 22:51, Jon the Hat said:

You seem to be conflating two completely different issues.  MP salaries are pretty reasonable in comparison to just about any other profession.  Expenses are allowed to ensure that we don’t end up with only wealthy politicians who can self find their roles. 
 

The UC issue I’m a little conflicted on. I like the concept of one payment, it’s efficient and makes sense, however I do think your example of caseworkers being pressured / targeted to reduce payments etc is rife and no doubt this creates an environment where people are failed by the system.  Honestly speaking the levels are also probably too low even with the £20.  We’ve proven we can and should put more funding into welfare over the past two years.

What irks me is the continued degradation of the vulnerable and the services they need, most of whom these people have actively MADE vulnerable through policy choice, disastrous COVID responses and all round general sneering attitude, while at the same time pilfering from the public's pocket for anything they can get away with - like thousands of pounds in congestion charges, like paying their rent and 50p pay and display tickets. Mostly though it's the millions of pounds of public money that go to friends and lovers with absolutely zero accountability.

 

It's not just cruel and heartless as @Parafox suggested, it's actively callous behaviour, which for me is what makes these bunch of absolute cvnts so sinister. 

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6 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said:

11 years for killing a child. Why such a low sentence compared to the murderers of Arthur and Star?!

Its just insane. Sometimes I feel these judges are on a different  planet. Presume they will say they are just following the guidelines.

nnfox

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5 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said:

11 years for killing a child. Why such a low sentence compared to the murderers of Arthur and Star?!

It does seem a little lenient, and might be appealed.  It looks like perhaps this was more of a one off occurrence, where as Arthur and Star had been subjected to sustained abuse over an extended period of time, which would have been an aggravating factor.

Raj

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15 minutes ago, Wymsey said:

This person is more than a c..:angry:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-59744774

He taunted the family that he would be out in 3 years..this is his previous-

"Daly, who had 55 convictions for 143 offences, was thought to have been up to 20 times the legal limit for cocaine at the time"

 

The legal system in this country is a fecking joke.

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2 hours ago, Free Falling Foxes said:

Deputy Head too,

 

Now sentenced

Just came in here to post about this too. 

 

It's bad enough as it is regardless of job, but the fact she was a Safeguarding Lead at the school makes it all the more harrowing. Someone who was presumably aware of the dangers and impact of child abuse, yet she's a perpetrator. Absolutely disgusting and definitely fitting of this thread. 

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Parafox

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2 hours ago, nnfox said:

What a disgusting individual... And a weak judge.

 

I knew of a case where the defendant mocked the victim whilst being taken away.  The judge called him back and handed him another year on top of his sentence there and then for contempt of court.

I seem to recall something like this but Google has no results

ajthefox

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On 21/12/2021 at 21:02, ealingfox said:

The legal limit for cocaine?  :blink:

 

On 21/12/2021 at 22:10, FoxesDeb said:

I had to Google it, I didn't realise it was a thing... 

 

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/consumer-news/90653/what-are-the-drug-driving-limits-uk-laws-explained

"It was just one small line officer, my limit is always 1 if I'm driving. I promise."

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