Weale Lovers

[The Doctor]

I'm not denying that he hasn't made mistakes, but you can't solely blame that mistake on the loss of points. You have to ask yourself why was he in that position where he had to make the save(poor defending?), and why didn't we already have a couple of goal cushion so we wouldn't have lost points(poor finishing?)? Ultimately the mistake has cost us points but you cannot put sole blame of the loss of points on him.

Hold on, you're blaming the strikers because weale's mistake affected the game?

[STEVIE B]

I find it incredible that people can still blame Sven for players individual errors or performances.

Weale alone has cost us at least 9 points with his incompetence and inability to make the most simple saves.

How is that Svens fault?

Sven picks the team, he coaches them, he has signed players. If some of his players are underperforming constantly surely he has to take it on the chin ? It's unfair to single out individual players week in week out and not see the bigger picture. As i've said before let's give Sven a pre-season and judge him properly in November.

[Jakemoore]

Sven has knocked his confidence by bringing in other keepers in my opinion but at the same time, I do feel like Weale needs to pack his bags and leave. Shay Given next season please

[Charl91]

Do you actually have learning difficultys or something? If so then i apologise, but i just posted it in the one which you yourself quoted.

I don't think anyone has cost us any points this season, it is a team game. You may sit in your room all day with your mother sliding food under your door, but a team is a collection of people and everyone contributes to the team, so if one individual makes a mistake it is a reflection on the whole team because that person which has made the mistake either had been put into that position by another or had no back up. And you could say that after the goal which Weale let in, why didnt we go up the other end and score a 40 yard thunderbolt? Thats Gallaghers fault for not scoring it.

Sorry, but I disagree entirely with the bit above. In a team everyone has to pull their weight. That's like saying if you had the Barcelona team, and you put me in goal, and I conceded alot, then it would be a reflection on the whole team, which clearly isn't true. If there's a weak link in the team then it can let the whole team down.

Though, I wouldn't say Weale has cost us a place in the playoffs, I don't think we've been playing consistently enough. However, he hasn't helped.

[Jackirius]

Hold on, you're blaming the strikers because weale's mistake affected the game?

No, read the scenario, if we lost 1-0 and Weale made a mistake then why were we in the position that one goal would be satisfactory win for them? Why had we not scored? Surely that means that the strikers aren't pulling their weight also.

[gazzer]

So you've still not been able to tell me where I've said Weale has cost us a place in the playoffs. How are old you? 15? If you think weale hasn't cost us any points this season which is what I said then you're even more stupid than I originally thought.

i agree with this

[Jackirius]

I've also no doubt in my mind that I'm a lot more intelligent than you.

Ha, ok then. 3 Gcse's and a certificate from the doctors for being a brave boy don't class you as intelligent.

P.S - you've still not found that quote where I've said "Chris Weale has cost us our place in the playoffs".

I have twice now, if you cannot read it, then just ask someone.

[gazzer]

please leave chris. you are awful

[ajthefox]

I've stuck up for Weale longer than I maybe should've but today has been the final straw, I've not left a city match so frustrated in a long time.

The 2nd today is poor and surprise surprise it came from a long range shot which wasn't dealt with. It's basic goalkeeping to parry away from goal and Weale did exactly the opposite.

Just heard it was supposedly offside but whatever, doesn't excuse Weale not dealing with a long range shot.

And the 3rd, well I'm sure everyone (including Weale) knows full well how bad it was without me explaining.

Not just this, but Weale looked shakey throughout today, there were a few instances where his handling was dodgy and it took him more than one attempt to claim the ball, and there is one particualr instance where he just cleared the ball under no pressure but it was just terrible, it couldn't have been further away from all the blue shirts.

The last few games don't matter now so whether Weale sticks it out or whether Ricardo plays doesn't bother me, but we need a new keeper for next season.

[MC Prussian]

Do you actually have learning difficultys or something? If so then i apologise, but i just posted it in the one which you yourself quoted.

I don't think anyone has cost us any points this season, it is a team game. You may sit in your room all day with your mother sliding food under your door, but a team is a collection of people and everyone contributes to the team, so if one individual makes a mistake it is a reflection on the whole team because that person which has made the mistake either had been put into that position by another or had no back up. And you could say that after the goal which Weale let in, why didnt we go up the other end and score a 40 yard thunderbolt? Thats Gallaghers fault for not scoring it.

You cannot blame individuals for whole matches of football, if we lose 1-0 to say Preston from a Weale howler then you can sit there and blame Weale, or you can say to yourself, why didn't we score 2 or 3 against them, or why were they allowed the room to shoot? Everyone makes mistakes in a game and being a goalkeeper you are up to more intense scrutiny if you do because you're the last line of defense. I agree that Weale isn't the best of keepers and that isn't his fault, he is being played by the manager, if we want to progress we need a new keeper who is less likely to make mistakes, but we also need a defense which can help our keeper out by reducing the amount of saves he has to make and an offence which can create and finish chances so if the defense does make a mistake then we have a cushion.

So it's the manager's fault that Weale is shit?

Erm... No.

Weale makes more mistakes than the average goalkeeper I've seen in professional football.

It might well be that he's punching above his weight in this division.

Either that or it's becoming more and more evident that he's some kind of a fraud.

[Super_horns]

Loach can pull off some good saves but is pretty shaky coming off his line for a big bloke and kicking is quite poor.

We've had a few decent goalies over the years and whilst Loach is far from the worse its hard to see why he is England Under 21 quality but then how many English goalies are there in the top flight for example?

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

I would fucking love someone to ring Radio Leicester and bang on now. The guy, today, has cost us pride against Forest. I couldn't care anymore. I'm drunk and completely pissed off. See you later Chirs, close the door on your way out, you utter, utter twat.

Normally im reasonable, and will dfend players, but today, you can dp one. Get out of my team, for good, its forest. their fans are ****ingrevolting, and todaym youve givent hem something to cheer about.l that was a gift. **** off chris.

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

also i love bert, he told me the art of dance

[ScouseFox]

mtwg speaks more sense than most people on this forum whilst smashed

[Guest Mee-9]

Right...

Last season under Nigel Pearson, we can all agree that Chris Weale, was probably one of our best players. There were campaigns floating round calling for Capello to give him a call up as England Keeper, and all sorts. You don't go from being one of the best keepers in the Championship, to as described in this topic as 'a ****ing liability, or shit.'

Whats different? Well for a start, the most obvious point, the manager. Nigel Pearson's mentality was 'Defence is the first form of attack' and NP kept literally the same settled back four all season long, of Morrison - Hobbs - Brown - Berner. We leaked about 40 goals then, think it was the second best defence behind Swansea. Weale played over 50 games that season. Sven has changed the defence so much this season. I'm not blaming Sven, but surely, As a goalkeeper, not knowing who is going to be playing infront of you each week isn't a good thing. Yes competitions healthy, but pissing about with the defence isn't. We also know Weale isn't the best communicator, and doesn't command his box much. But you always felt last season, that the goal was safe, and each of the back four, knew how to play together. Another factor could be language barriers even? The back four last season were predominately English, therefore making it easier to communicate for defender and goalkeeper. I always remember last season, Wayne Brown and Weale, there was a miscommunication between them, and when Weale got the ball, Brown was bellowing at him, but a couple of minutes later, they shook hands.

To say he's cost us the playoffs is ****ing pathetic, and some of you need to get a grip. Yes, his errors today have probably cost us 3 points, but to say he's cost us the playoffs is awful. It angers me, how the 'better' 'well known posters' can be so hypocritical when they call people fickle and moan at people for booing certain players. Yes Weale has made errors, So have many players who have wore that blue shirt this season, the players that are regarded by people as 'our best players.' Football is a team game. Every nown again people make mistakes, Yes you could say Weale has made a fair few, but, I think certain posters, Bert et al, should just get a reality check.

We've not made the playoffs cause we're not good enough. Because the TEAM is not good enough.

Anyway, Onwards and Upwards. Bring on next season.

[Guy]

Ho Hum - who'd be a keeper?! I now think Weale's a poor man's Ricardo if I was being honest! Although Ricardo never looked comfortable in his area whenever the ball rained in, having seen Weale's latest error against the enemy today, then I was half tempted to say come back Ricardo, all is forgiven.....or Logan even!!! Apart from his unforgettable howler against Derby, Weale was a pretty useful and consistent goaly last season and saved our bacon on a few occasions but then that's what he's paid to do of course!

However in short neither Ricardo or Weale have been up to the task between them this season. It has not helped that our defence has also chopped and changed a lot in front of them also but they shoud be still capable of commanding their area and not making such basic fumbles! While you could argue a point against Forest today would've still not been of much use to us, it would've still kept them in touching distance - and Leeds too after their draw v Reading afterwards.

In short I think we definitely need a new keeper for next season now. Keiran Westwood from Cov. is probably the biggest and most obvious "must buy" as I think his contract runs out this summer??

[Kitchandro]

Right...

Last season under Nigel Pearson, we can all agree that Chris Weale, was probably one of our best players. There were campaigns floating round calling for Capello to give him a call up as England Keeper, and all sorts. You don't go from being one of the best keepers in the Championship, to as described in this topic as 'a ****ing liability, or shit.'

Whats different? Well for a start, the most obvious point, the manager. Nigel Pearson's mentality was 'Defence is the first form of attack' and NP kept literally the same settled back four all season long, of Morrison - Hobbs - Brown - Berner. We leaked about 40 goals then, think it was the second best defence behind Swansea. Weale played over 50 games that season. Sven has changed the defence so much this season. I'm not blaming Sven, but surely, As a goalkeeper, not knowing who is going to be playing infront of you each week isn't a good thing. Yes competitions healthy, but pissing about with the defence isn't. We also know Weale isn't the best communicator, and doesn't command his box much. But you always felt last season, that the goal was safe, and each of the back four, knew how to play together. Another factor could be language barriers even? The back four last season were predominately English, therefore making it easier to communicate for defender and goalkeeper. I always remember last season, Wayne Brown and Weale, there was a miscommunication between them, and when Weale got the ball, Brown was bellowing at him, but a couple of minutes later, they shook hands.

To say he's cost us the playoffs is ****ing pathetic, and some of you need to get a grip. Yes, his errors today have probably cost us 3 points, but to say he's cost us the playoffs is awful. It angers me, how the 'better' 'well known posters' can be so hypocritical when they call people fickle and moan at people for booing certain players. Yes Weale has made errors, So have many players who have wore that blue shirt this season, the players that are regarded by people as 'our best players.' Football is a team game. Every nown again people make mistakes, Yes you could say Weale has made a fair few, but, I think certain posters, Bert et al, should just get a reality check.

We've not made the playoffs cause we're not good enough. Because the TEAM is not good enough.

Anyway, Onwards and Upwards. Bring on next season.

Agree with pretty much everything there, but he just has made too many errors I'm afraid. We need a new goalkeeper in the summer, one who's more confident, commanding and makes less errors. Lee Camp is a perfect example of what we need, he's always shouting at his defenders, telling them off for being pussies etc, like an army general. And he doesn't make many errors.

But I agree it's not all Weale's fault and people shouldn't claim 'we would be in the play-offs if it weren't for his errors', because you could say that about plenty of players.

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

To say he's cost us the playoffs is ****ing pathetic, and some of you need to get a grip. Yes, his errors today have probably cost us 3 points, but to say he's cost us the playoffs is awful. It angers me, how the 'better' 'well known posters' can be so hypocritical when they call people fickle and moan at people for booing certain players. Yes Weale has made errors, So have many players who have wore that blue shirt this season, the players that are regarded by people as 'our best players.' Football is a team game. Every nown again people make mistakes, Yes you could say Weale has made a fair few, but, I think certain posters, Bert et al, should just get a reality check.

the 'better known' posters tend to have been on here for a lengthy period because their opinions are worth listening to and aren't ruled as complete shit, hence their longevity.

in other words - you can fuck off if that was aimed at me.

[ajthefox]

How many people, if any, have actually said "Weale has cost us the play-offs?"

[Kitchandro]

How many people, if any, have actually said "Weale has cost us the play-offs?"

It was certianly implied somwhere

[21st Century Fox]

With both Weale and Ricardo you always get that uncertainty whenever theres an attack on us and the butterflies start to appear. I'm genuinely looking forward to seeing who Sven brings in for next season as you can usually judge the character of a team by the keeper, especially if they're an ever present. I do like Ricardo but he isn't up to playing week in week out, you get the uncertainty and butterflies when balls are floated into the box but he does exude self confidence and is vocal which I've never really picked up from Weale. I think its the self confidence that riles alot of the Ricardo haters because it doesn't sit well with is perceived ability, I think he's a good keeper but maybe not best suited to the English game (e.g. his punching, better suited to the continent).

[Guest MarshallForEngland]

All players, regardless of preconceptions or biases, are subject to individual instances of bad luck or poor judgement. Why anybody thought Weale was different from Ricardo (or any other player in football) in that respect I will never know. If any good can come from Weale's error against Forest, I sincerely hope it's that some people will think twice before vehemently chanting against a player while he is still on the pitch. Based on the response to Weale's error, however, I doubt that has happened.

In a strange way I am glad for Ricardo that it was Weale who made that error and not him. Not out of some sadistic desire to see Weale suffer but for Ricardo's sake. He didn't need to do a lot wrong for the crowd to really get on his back; if he had done what Weale did, the guy would have been lynched.

[lcfc_jme]

Weale hasn't cost us the playoffs, but he certainly cost us the game today, completely let everyone down and made himself look a complete cvnt. He was atrocious, whether it was simple catching or simple saves. You NEVER beat a shot out into the 6 yard box - especially when a striker that ALWAYS scores against us is lurking. As for their 3rd, is he fvcking spasticated? The guy is a complete fvcking embarrassment and his performance today, and most of his attempts at saving shots from more than 15 yards, have made me feel ridiculously fvcking sick.

Thanks for nothing, Chris, you absolute fvcking moron. Don't let the door hit you on the way out you ****.

[Rusko187]

Weale hasn't cost us the playoffs, but he certainly cost us the game today, completely let everyone down and made himself look a complete cvnt. He was atrocious, whether it was simple catching or simple saves. You NEVER beat a shot out into the 6 yard box - especially when a striker that ALWAYS scores against us is lurking. As for their 3rd, is he fvcking spasticated? The guy is a complete fvcking embarrassment and his performance today, and most of his attempts at saving shots from more than 15 yards, have made me feel ridiculously fvcking sick.

Thanks for nothing, Chris, you absolute fvcking moron. Don't let the door hit you on the way out you ****.

Harsh words there, annoys me that everyone seems to look for a scapegoat! I've seen Weale make some fantastic saves but I guess people don't remember them. Really does seem that people only remember goalkeepers errors rather than their good points. I don't blame weale and it is unfair to suggest it was all his fault, our team shouldn't play to the whistle i.e. Looking for an offside and our defence shouldn't have allowed a shot like the third goal.

We need to stop getting on their back and show some encouragement!

[Kitchandro]

Harsh words there, annoys me that everyone seems to look for a scapegoat! I've seen Weale make some fantastic saves but I guess people don't remember them. Really does seem that people only remember goalkeepers errors rather than their good points. I don't blame weale and it is unfair to suggest it was all his fault, our team shouldn't play to the whistle i.e. Looking for an offside and our defence shouldn't have allowed a shot like the third goal.

We need to stop getting on their back and show some encouragement!

Ooooo. now you're in for it.

The good people of Leicester who went to this game will not be tolerant of the Weale defenders...

(and I don't blame them)