Kitchandro Posted 2 April 2012 Posted 2 April 2012 What really gets me about this is, everything under the sun that is an attempt to help the atmosphere is a health and safety issue. Yet when there is something that may actually cause a health and safety concern but won't help the atmosphere, they've got no problem with it.
blueharmie Posted 2 April 2012 Posted 2 April 2012 I can just see it now. Lots of young kids kicking off. They could be called the baby baby baby baby squad.
Daggers Posted 2 April 2012 Posted 2 April 2012 My guess, the families don't want to sit with their children amongst a bunch of young, often aggressive men effing and blinding trying to bait the home fans. You missed out 'drunk'. I've lost count of the number of times I've had run-ins with our own support at away games...and only once was it a bit my fault, but in my defence he was a loudmouth moaning cvnt. I have never taken my kids to an away game and never would for that very reason: a lot of our fans are utter arseholes. I think the plan is an excellent one and just wonder at the mindsets of people who seem to think that this of all issues signals the death of the game as they know it.
Dan Posted 2 April 2012 Posted 2 April 2012 But nobody has answered the original question of: If Donny haven't sold out their allocation, then why would families want to buy a ticket in our end and sit with our supporters? It doesn't make sense! I am not against it if there was some logical reasoning behind it. It's clear to me, they'll mix fans for a pretty low-risk (I know) game and then use this as an example for doing it in future (when it'll be a shit example). It won't single handedly kill the atmosphere for this game at all, in-fact it'll hardly make it any worse if at all, but it's another negative step for it and I'm getting quite frankly sick to death of it. What really gets me about this is, everything under the sun that is an attempt to help the atmosphere is a health and safety issue. Yet when there is something that may actually cause a health and safety concern but won't help the atmosphere, they've got no problem with it. So true. Honestly can't even put my finger on these people who make these contradictory decisions so often, I don't get why people who are so clearly stupid/out of touch are always making decisions, in so many cases.
5waller5 Posted 2 April 2012 Posted 2 April 2012 Try reading any of my previous 36,077 posts and work it out for yourself. I got to post number 3 before working it out, don't think he needs to read all of them. I've just finished reading them ... I can't work it out.
Daggers Posted 2 April 2012 Posted 2 April 2012 I've just finished reading them ... I can't work it out. I got through 10 and was bored shitless.
5waller5 Posted 2 April 2012 Posted 2 April 2012 I got through 10 and was bored shitless. Did you work it out though?
ozleicester Posted 3 April 2012 Posted 3 April 2012 But wait...imagine...people from Donny..mixing with people from Leicester. getting friendly, chatting, going for a drink, a smile, some gentle flirting.... Won't someone think of the children
Finnegan Posted 3 April 2012 Posted 3 April 2012 Anyone who thinks this is a pre-cursor to further integration around the ground is a ****ing retard. Especially because those of you moaning about it are likely amongst the same people crying when you're told to sit down at games, told you can't have banners at games or various other stupid niggles because of health and safety. You think the club are that paranoid about maintaining safety and order at games but they're going to let the bulk of away supporters just chill out in L1 and the Kop? Christ, did you see the size of the gap between the Forest and Leicester fans for the cup game!? It was absolutely hilarious, you could have parked the Titanic in there.
TrentFox Posted 3 April 2012 Posted 3 April 2012 Some people really could start a fight in a 'phone box with themselves ! read the opposite sides of the argument and I think this is a good idea. Possibly even a very good idea. Back in the 80's, when fences (even electric ones) were put up, some fans behaved as they were treated - like animals. I reckon people generally live up to or down to people's expectations of them. In which case, expecting people from different cities to sit together and enjoy a match is a good thing. Let's face it, the people who opt to take advantage of that probably wouldn't be shouting and singing and jumping around if they were elsewhere, so it is hardly going to affect the atmosphere negatively. (Unless they fall out over some jelly babies and cake, in which case all hell could break loose). It might even positively impact the atmosphere - if those older kids in 'family' decide this is the final straw and fly the nest to contribute to singing / chanting from other parts of the ground ? For me, the people who seem to be so intolerant to this suggestion are never going to sit there anyway.
purpleronnie Posted 3 April 2012 Posted 3 April 2012 Some people really could start a fight in a 'phone box with themselves ! read the opposite sides of the argument and I think this is a good idea. Possibly even a very good idea. Back in the 80's, when fences (even electric ones) were put up, some fans behaved as they were treated - like animals. I reckon people generally live up to or down to people's expectations of them. In which case, expecting people from different cities to sit together and enjoy a match is a good thing. Let's face it, the people who opt to take advantage of that probably wouldn't be shouting and singing and jumping around if they were elsewhere, so it is hardly going to affect the atmosphere negatively. (Unless they fall out over some jelly babies and cake, in which case all hell could break loose). It might even positively impact the atmosphere - if those older kids in 'family' decide this is the final straw and fly the nest to contribute to singing / chanting from other parts of the ground ? For me, the people who seem to be so intolerant to this suggestion are never going to sit there anyway. nope.
onecapwonder Posted 3 April 2012 Posted 3 April 2012 You missed out 'drunk'. I've lost count of the number of times I've had run-ins with our own support at away games...and only once was it a bit my fault, but in my defence he was a loudmouth moaning cvnt. I have never taken my kids to an away game and never would for that very reason: a lot of our fans are utter arseholes. I think the plan is an excellent one and just wonder at the mindsets of people who seem to think that this of all issues signals the death of the game as they know it. What will cause the death of the game across all the leagues, ignoring perhaps the real draws (Arsenal, Tottenham, United) is the fact that both prices and the average age of fans are going up alarmingly. An adult ticket for a match in J3 cost £25 in 2006, it now costs £38, thats over 50% in 6 years, anyones pay increased by that amount? The crowds at Leicester are going down year on year and the prices are going up, thats not good. Putting some away families in with the home families might not do anything to stop this but it may just encourage a few more young people to care enough about their clubs to come along to matches on their own when they are older. It may even encourage more families to go to away matches, which is good for every club in the league. If fans show they can get on with one another clubs may even be able to stand up to their local police forces using them as cash cows by forcing over the top policing and the associated costs on them every other Saturday. Whats the harm it can do? Its not going to hurt the atmosphere, there isn't any, in fact by having more fans in the family section there's a fair chance it will improve the atmosphere, if only slighgtly. L1 singing for 3 minutes every 15 minutes isn't atmosphere and the rest of the crowd is too depressed by whats happening on the pitch to join in. There hasn't been atmosphere at the Walkers/King Power since the season in the PL.
accessory Posted 3 April 2012 Posted 3 April 2012 My guess, the families don't want to sit with their children amongst a bunch of young, often aggressive men effing and blinding trying to bait the home fans. Behave, it's hardly as if Doncaster are the championship's equivalent of Galatasaray. If families want to be segregated from the rest of the Doncaster support I'm sure arrangements could be made within the away corner. And why did they not offer us the same deal when we played there?
Leicester_Loyal Posted 3 April 2012 Posted 3 April 2012 What will cause the death of the game across all the leagues, ignoring perhaps the real draws (Arsenal, Tottenham, United) is the fact that both prices and the average age of fans are going up alarmingly. An adult ticket for a match in J3 cost £25 in 2006, it now costs £38, thats over 50% in 6 years, anyones pay increased by that amount? The crowds at Leicester are going down year on year and the prices are going up, thats not good. Putting some away families in with the home families might not do anything to stop this but it may just encourage a few more young people to care enough about their clubs to come along to matches on their own when they are older. It may even encourage more families to go to away matches, which is good for every club in the league. If fans show they can get on with one another clubs may even be able to stand up to their local police forces using them as cash cows by forcing over the top policing and the associated costs on them every other Saturday. Whats the harm it can do? Its not going to hurt the atmosphere, there isn't any, in fact by having more fans in the family section there's a fair chance it will improve the atmosphere, if only slighgtly. L1 singing for 3 minutes every 15 minutes isn't atmosphere and the rest of the crowd is too depressed by whats happening on the pitch to join in. There hasn't been atmosphere at the Walkers/King Power since the season in the PL. That price increase is a disgrace, anyone who would pay £38 just for the ticket needs their heads looking at, especially for a home match. I disagree with the second point, we've had a decent atmosphere this season, especially in recent weeks, its gradually improved throughout the season.
onecapwonder Posted 3 April 2012 Posted 3 April 2012 That price increase is a disgrace, anyone who would pay £38 just for the ticket needs their heads looking at, especially for a home match. I disagree with the second point, we've had a decent atmosphere this season, especially in recent weeks, its gradually improved throughout the season. Its crazy, but if you want to sit alongside the pitch vaguely in the middle of a stand you can't get them for less than £30. I went with my father to Forest and if we had wanted to go to Forest and Hull and sit where we did it would have cost £150+ for the two of us for the two matches in 4 days. Thats just too much to pay for whats on offer, obviously there are cheaper seats in the family stand or the Kop but not if you want to watch football side on. I agree the atmosphere has got better since Christmas. L1 do a great job and other sections join in following their lead but it never really feels like everyone is going to get involved which is why I say it isn't really an atmosphere its just some fans doing a lot of singing. At the Forest game, for example, it never really felt that the whole crowd was urging us on to score, some were but most of us seemed resigned to the fact it was going to end 0-0.
Trav Le Bleu Posted 3 April 2012 Posted 3 April 2012 Wow! I didn't realise that football fans were still so tribalistic to even hate little kids who support another team!
ithuriel Posted 3 April 2012 Posted 3 April 2012 Families, adults with young ones, i see no problem with this unless poeple see little ones ripping out seats and beating each other senseless with cuddly toys XD.
m00nie Posted 3 April 2012 Posted 3 April 2012 i dont see how separating what i imagine will be a small crowd as it is will benefit anyone.. if they dont want to stand and sing hey can go to the front of there own section, what about if they do want to sing, are they going to do it in the home end. or if they score are we going to have them jumping up and down in the home end. even mixed with other families i think its wrong.
ThurnbyLodgeFox Posted 3 April 2012 Posted 3 April 2012 Can only think that this is a way to get a bit more money. Although, this is not rugby, we are high risk and shouldn't be doing this. DEPENDING ON WHEN THEY'RE SITTING, it will kill the atmosphere. The day football becomes mixed seating is the day I stop going. If I wanted to talk to Doncaster fans, I'd do it before the game, not during. And what happens when we score? That'll be interesting.... ITS NOT RUGBY FGS :frantics: :frantics: :frantics: :frantics: :frantics: :frantics: :frantics:
Guest Posted 3 April 2012 Posted 3 April 2012 http://www.doncaster...711002,00.html? I'd like to see this happen more often if the space is there, the more fans are able to mix (see also Lisa's Blog - http://leesoh.blogsp...part-three.html) the better off we'll be in the long run Agreed. It would be nice to get back to fans watching football together.
Webbo Posted 3 April 2012 Posted 3 April 2012 Behave, it's hardly as if Doncaster are the championship's equivalent of Galatasaray. Because only fans of certain clubs act like c**ts. And why did they not offer us the same deal when we played there? Because they'd heard of an infamous Leicester fan who likes to drop his trousers in front of kiddies.
carlhltid Posted 3 April 2012 Posted 3 April 2012 They only come to watch leicester come to watch leicester no seriously who would want to travel to watch your team play away and sit with the home fans. I wouldnt
accessory Posted 3 April 2012 Posted 3 April 2012 Because only fans of certain clubs act like c**ts. Because they'd heard of an infamous Leicester fan who likes to drop his trousers in front of kiddies. At least Ultra achieved something in his life, unlike some sad little troll who spent half a decade whining to be made a mod on an internet forum.
Webbo Posted 3 April 2012 Posted 3 April 2012 At least Ultra achieved something in his life, unlike some sad little troll who spent half a decade whining to be made a mod on an internet forum. I'm not little.
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