Babylon Posted 24 January 2013 Posted 24 January 2013 Actually the leg bends in one place at the knee joint. You can't bend your leg at the hip joint and the ankle joint only effects the angle of your foot (dorsi-flexion and plantar-flexion) and not your leg. Your shin physically cannot bend. Yes and those pivots enable to to alter the angle of strike.
StanSP Posted 24 January 2013 Posted 24 January 2013 Nicely done, AFC Wimbledon. Tweeted from their official account, We have had the ballboys in early for training today ahead of tonight’s televised match pic.twitter.com/xPEeTUdn
GingerrrFox Posted 24 January 2013 Posted 24 January 2013 Because you're less likely to damage yourself. Nothing to do with it being more painful for the opponent, whether that's true or not. That is one reason your right and the other is that Thai is an art where aggression, power and strength are all key and the aim is to damage your opponent to win by TKO or KO in contrast to speed and quickness in an art such as Taekwondo.
StanSP Posted 24 January 2013 Posted 24 January 2013 That is one reason your right and the other is that Thai is an art where aggression, power and strength are all key and the aim is to damage your opponent to win by TKO or KO in contrast to speed and quickness in an art such as Taekwondo. Are you Top in disguise?
Babylon Posted 24 January 2013 Posted 24 January 2013 Nicely done, AFC Wimbledon. Tweeted from their official account, So Ginger, looking at that, you still think it's not possible to kick a ball under someone without making contact? Even if the ball was more central you could easily toe poke that.
GingerrrFox Posted 24 January 2013 Posted 24 January 2013 Yes and those pivots enable to to alter the angle of strike. Look at your leg. Now try and change the fact that your shin is in a vertical upright position. No matter what you do you can't. Now alter the angle of your foot, this is what you can do. Now if someone is lying on a ball, if I kick it from under him there is nothing I can do to stop my shin hitting them. Get a ball, get someone to lie on it and try it out. Oh and if you look again at the video the lad has turned more to his right side to shield the ball from Hazard rather than lying directly on top of it.
GingerrrFox Posted 24 January 2013 Posted 24 January 2013 Its not as if there is a massive gap between the lad and the ball, he's cradled himself round it and is hugging the ball.
21st Century Fox Posted 24 January 2013 Posted 24 January 2013 Chris the Simpson's Artist's take on last night's incident.... i have gone and done a picture of the football player that tried to kill the little boy last night because he wouldnt give him his ball back. the football player is called hazard because that is his name because a man said that it is his name when he was talking on my television and i am not quite sure what the little boys name is called but i think he looks like he should be called ross or jamie and i think that it is not good that the football player was kicking and punching and trying to strangle the little boy because he is only 8 years old and it is illegal to try and kill someone that is not 18 years old exactly so i think that the football player is really going to have a lot of regret for himself when he is in jail because he should have just waited until the little boy was a little bit older and then everything would have been fine but he couldnt wait could he and the man on my television said that the little boy is in hospital and he said that he nearly died in the night time but he has pulled through because ryan giggs sent him a signed football boot to take his mind off dying and i think that everything is going to be ok thank god and i hope that nothing like this ever happens again in all of my life time because it is just horrible and i hope that you are not really upset today as well because i was really upset when i was in my bed at night time but i am fine now because there is still snow outside of my house. Chris (Simpsons artist) xox
Carl the Llama Posted 24 January 2013 Posted 24 January 2013 Its not as if there is a massive gap between the lad and the ball, he's cradled himself round it and is hugging the ball. Christ, are we still discussing this? I thought it was pretty obvious he wasn't in any way hurt when it happened, then again when he apologised to Mata, and lastly when he didn't hold up any charges.
Finnegan Posted 24 January 2013 Posted 24 January 2013 Chris the Simpson's Artist's take on last night's incident.... Fantastic
Jimothy Posted 24 January 2013 Posted 24 January 2013 It definietly is. The swinging motion of his leg means that even if he's angled his foot to go under the lads body to toe poke the ball out, it's still attached to his leg and his shin has to make contact with something because otherwise the motion would carry on through the lads body (physically impossible). You seem to be of the impression that Hazard has no control over when his leg stops swinging. Almost as if the ball boy wasn't been there his leg would have just carried on in a forward momentum, then flipping going back towards Hazards shoulder, somersaulting him backwards, in a kind of Catherine Wheel type motion. You don't have to swing all the way through when you kick a ball, it is quite easy just to stab it with your foot and stop at that point. Hazard may well have caught the lad, but it's not physically impossible for him not to have.
FoxLAD Posted 24 January 2013 Posted 24 January 2013 Chris the Simpson's Artist's take on last night's incident.... i love chris simpson, always brightens up my day!
Babylon Posted 24 January 2013 Posted 24 January 2013 You seem to be of the impression that Hazard has no control over when his leg stops swinging. Almost as if the ball boy wasn't been there his leg would have just carried on in a forward momentum, then flipping going back towards Hazards shoulder, somersaulting him backwards, in a kind of Catherine Wheel type motion. You don't have to swing all the way through when you kick a ball, it is quite easy just to stab it with your foot and stop at that point. Hazard may well have caught the lad, but it's not physically impossible for him not to have. At least someone gets it...
Father Ted Posted 24 January 2013 Posted 24 January 2013 1) If Leicester were playing Chelsea in a semi-final and you were a ballboy, would you not contemplate doing something like that? 2) If you were playing for Leicester in a semi-final and you were 2-0 down, would you not react like Hazard? My answer to both is yes. The ball boy knew what he was doing, waiting for a situation and made the most of it. And that GIF said it all where he was appealing to the ref Brilliant, comedy gold, not long until he's on Eastenders!
GingerrrFox Posted 24 January 2013 Posted 24 January 2013 The lad is shielding the ball from Hazard and it is not directly underneath the middle of his body from the pictures you can clearly see that he makes contact with him. It's there for all to see in the 2nd of those 3 pictures that he hits him with his shin.
StanSP Posted 24 January 2013 Posted 24 January 2013 The lad is shielding the ball from Hazard and it is not directly underneath the middle of his body from the pictures you can clearly see that he makes contact with him. It's there for all to see in the 2nd of those 3 pictures that he hits him with his shin. Even so, it still wouldn't hurt him that much to warrant the ballboy's reaction. Hazard wasn't going in full momentum. It was a fraction of that.
Raw Dykes Posted 24 January 2013 Posted 24 January 2013 The lad is shielding the ball from Hazard and it is not directly underneath the middle of his body from the pictures you can clearly see that he makes contact with him. It's there for all to see in the 2nd of those 3 pictures that he hits him with his shin. No, it isn't! The ball boy's wearing a thick coat. It's entirely possible that Hazard's foot makes contact with the ball without his shin touching the ball boy at all. He might have made contact, but he might not have. You can't be certain from looking at these pictures.
Manwell Pablo Posted 24 January 2013 Posted 24 January 2013 Worst incident I've seen involving a ball boy at the King Power was when Levein or Kelly was in charge, I sat in B3 in those days, and right near the front so I could clearly hear what the player said. I think it was Ricardo Fuller and the ball boy threw it too slow, so Fuller called him a effin p***k, or something along those lines. Fullers a nob, so is Charlie Morgan. Time wasting is a part of the game, if you're a player. Ball boys shouldn't be obviously wasting time and the most certainly shouldn't obstruct a player trying to get the ball back into play. Judging by his pre match tweet, Charlie boy has an over inflated opinion of himself and feels if he wastes a bit of time he is actually part of the Swansea team and done his bit to get them to Wembley, incorrect, you're a ball boy, fetch the ball, throw it back, don't get ideas above your station. Foolish from Hazard to kick the lad though was always going to see red for it, what makes it even stupider is the fact that Swansea were just about to make a sub anyway so there was no point in retreiving the ball.
The Blur Posted 24 January 2013 Posted 24 January 2013 Clearly Hazard's acting on a recurrant belgian problem with dickhead ballboys: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuZoa-Qb8jM The ball boy even threw in a Rooney style clap. 10 out of 10.
kingfox Posted 24 January 2013 Posted 24 January 2013 Seen this incident again, I had sympathy for the ball boy but not anymore, the lad is a full blown t**t. Hazard went to grab the ball off him, he still held onto it, he fell to the ground, Hazard actually kicked the ball, but then the ball boy turned on it and held it underneath him so Hazard couldn't get it, therefore Hazard kicked him in the ribs. Just a chav.
Alf Bentley Posted 24 January 2013 Posted 24 January 2013 Ballboy cheats to waste time to his team's advantage, then indulges in pathetically mediocre acting to feign injury and get an opponent in trouble.... I wonder where he learned such conduct? Maybe he'd been watching professional footballers!! What goes around comes around... Hazard was an idiot to react, mind; should just have highlighted the problem to the ref, who'd have added some time on. The ballboy should be sacked, but probably won't be if his Dad is a Swansea director...but couldn't happen to a nicer team than Chelsea!
Babylon Posted 24 January 2013 Posted 24 January 2013 The lad is shielding the ball from Hazard and it is not directly underneath the middle of his body from the pictures you can clearly see that he makes contact with him. It's there for all to see in the 2nd of those 3 pictures that he hits him with his shin. Forget this one, your said it was not possible, it is.
Trav Le Bleu Posted 24 January 2013 Posted 24 January 2013 More ball boys should be kicked and harder.
Super_horns Posted 24 January 2013 Posted 24 January 2013 Ballboy cheats to waste time to his team's advantage, then indulges in pathetically mediocre acting to feign injury and get an opponent in trouble.... I wonder where he learned such conduct? Maybe he'd been watching professional footballers!! What goes around comes around... Hazard was an idiot to react, mind; should just have highlighted the problem to the ref, who'd have added some time on. The ballboy should be sacked, but probably won't be if his Dad is a Swansea director...but couldn't happen to a nicer team than Chelsea! Pat Nevin pretty much admitted that...these lads just copy their idols.
The People's Hero Posted 24 January 2013 Posted 24 January 2013 So and So Porter? Paul Furlong? Someone Chamberlain? Luther Blisset? Vicarage Road? That 4-4 on Boxing Day? Is that all you've got? Don't give me that.
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