shailen Posted 28 December 2014 Share Posted 28 December 2014 Needs to improve his first touch at times and his crossing, but he has all the attributes to be a top top player. Great strength, pace, power and defensively good. He has improved with every game he has played, and I can see him becoming the complete article very soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clever Fox Posted 28 December 2014 Share Posted 28 December 2014 Decent today but he did look a little tired. Understandable after his performance boxing day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clever Fox Posted 28 December 2014 Share Posted 28 December 2014 Needs to improve his first touch at times and his crossing, but he has all the attributes to be a top top player. Great strength, pace, power and defensively good. He has improved with every game he has played, and I can see him becoming the complete article very soon. quite true. All he needs is game time while he learns his trade. He's taken to the prem quicker than any other player in the Squad. He's also the only one who can play left Midfield. We'll miss him when he's gone on ITNL Duty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deep blue Posted 28 December 2014 Share Posted 28 December 2014 I'm open to opinions (that aren't Col's or Lee's) is there a particular thing he did today that you would say was particularly excellent? From where I am sitting he offered little going forward, and we had a lot of dangerous breaks down our left and Konchesky ended up walking so don't tell me he was well covered. Some posters want to heap blame on Schlupp for everything that goes wrong. How can you blame him for the careless action of Konch in incurring 2 yellow cards? And when Hutton scored that goal in a previous game, our left winger manages to track back into our penalty area but loses Hutton's run into our 6 yard box. Where was our senior professional LB while all this is going on? He has been stationed comfortably along pur back line with a perfect view of everything happening in front of him, yet still fails to be alert to the main danger. Schlupp has run all the way back and has no chance of such a composed view of the situation. Yet he is blamed by many.In fact, Schlupp's selfless tracking back has served to spare Konch's blushes on many occasions and to hide his frailties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScouseFox Posted 28 December 2014 Share Posted 28 December 2014 Decent today but he did look a little tired. Understandable after his performance boxing day.I'm assuming this is his first ever season minus a winter break, let alone 4 games in a week or whatever were gonna end up playing. and his first season as a full international after a world cup so no summer break. He'll be fecked I'm guessing edit gonna leave this here for everyone to laugh at, I thought this was the mahrez thread. I'm still drunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny the fox Posted 28 December 2014 Share Posted 28 December 2014 Christ the lad has played still a handful of games at this level..if people can't see the progress, they must be blind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannythefox Posted 28 December 2014 Share Posted 28 December 2014 Getting better every games he plays, he looks strong and fitter in recent weeks he'll be missed when he goes to the acon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merging Cultures Posted 28 December 2014 Share Posted 28 December 2014 He had the confidence to take on Vertongan and got his shot away which he would have scored with but for the fact that it was hand high for the keeper. He must have been unlucky... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ttfn Posted 28 December 2014 Share Posted 28 December 2014 MOTM again today. Still the occasional brain fart but his pace, strength and work rate are so important. Worked his nuts off, but MOTM is stretching it. He has been much, much improved in the last 2 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katieakita Posted 28 December 2014 Share Posted 28 December 2014 Puts a hell of a shift in and getting better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot Posted 28 December 2014 Share Posted 28 December 2014 I'm open to opinions (that aren't Col's or Lee's) is there a particular thing he did today that you would say was particularly excellent? From where I am sitting he offered little going forward, and we had a lot of dangerous breaks down our left and Konchesky ended up walking so don't tell me he was well covered. Broke up attacks, not only on the wing but tracking in to the middle of the park as well, clearances when in serious trouble, doubled up with the full back countless times to nullify attacks, always looking to beat his man when possible, at times doing so, his energy levels were fantastic (not seen the stats but imagine he ran furtherst on the pitch today), positional awareness was also good. You've stated you'll never like him no matter what he does so can't help but feel you'll forever be blinkered no matter what he does, as you've stated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shade Posted 28 December 2014 Share Posted 28 December 2014 he's quite unpredictable, very schlupp and down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwell Pablo Posted 28 December 2014 Share Posted 28 December 2014 Some posters want to heap blame on Schlupp for everything that goes wrong. How can you blame him for the careless action of Konch in incurring 2 yellow cards? And when Hutton scored that goal in a previous game, our left winger manages to track back into our penalty area but loses Hutton's run into our 6 yard box. Where was our senior professional LB while all this is going on? He has been stationed comfortably along pur back line with a perfect view of everything happening in front of him, yet still fails to be alert to the main danger. Schlupp has run all the way back and has no chance of such a composed view of the situation. Yet he is blamed by many. In fact, Schlupp's selfless tracking back has served to spare Konch's blushes on many occasions and to hide his frailties. I hope you don't mean me he's to blame for very little another being a ineffective cog in a very ineffective machine taking the season as a whole. I agree Konchesky was dire today but apparently Jeffrey was "excellent" I'm sorry if that's the case I'd have to see something other than zero contribution going forwards and his left back being ripped to pieces. As I say if someone can tell me something he did particularly well today than fair enough, I somewhat doubt it though, not saying he was awful himself but he didn't really offer a lot. And to the person saying how can we not notice the improvement, he's hardly had the hardest base to start from has he. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwell Pablo Posted 28 December 2014 Share Posted 28 December 2014 Broke up attacks, not only on the wing but tracking in to the middle of the park as well, clearances when in serious trouble, doubled up with the full back countless times to nullify attacks, always looking to beat his man when possible, at times doing so, his energy levels were fantastic (not seen the stats but imagine he ran furtherst on the pitch today), positional awareness was also good. You've stated you'll never like him no matter what he does so can't help but feel you'll forever be blinkered no matter what he does, as you've stated. Not at all give him credit for boxing day, you've basically just stated he ran around a lot, you say he got round his man a lot I remember once and he was pulled up for a foul, and we got opened up numerous times down the left and side and he did nothing going forwards, if that what constitutes an excellent left wing display it's no wonder ,we are in trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted 28 December 2014 Share Posted 28 December 2014 How can you blame Schlupp for Konchesky being a moron making 2 stupid tackles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwell Pablo Posted 28 December 2014 Share Posted 28 December 2014 How can you blame Schlupp for Konchesky being a moron making 2 stupid tackles? Who's blaming him. Need to get key stage three course going for some of you lot. to make it easy HE WAS APPARENTLY EXCELLENT. HOW WAS HE EXCELLENT IF HE DID NOTHING GOING FORWARDS AND WE WERE OPENED UP TIME AFTER TIME AFTER TIME DOWN THE LEFT AND OUR LEFT FULL BACK WAS LEFT IN A POSITION WHERE HE HAD TO MAKE TO TACKLES WORTHY OF A BOOKING. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted 28 December 2014 Share Posted 28 December 2014 He didn't though both of Konchesky's bookings were stupid tackles he didn't have to make, the first was his own fault for over running the ball then lunging in, watch them back Schlupp had nothing to do with our most experienced player acting like a retard, but then you'd need a new reason to blame Schlupp ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScouseFox Posted 28 December 2014 Share Posted 28 December 2014 pleased he got another seemingly positive performance, although he was rarely in the picture every time konchesky was defending and he wasn't involved in an attacking highlight, but you can't get a full picture from motd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted 28 December 2014 Share Posted 28 December 2014 pleased he got another seemingly positive performance, although he was rarely in the picture every time konchesky was defending and he wasn't involved in an attacking highlight, but you can't get a full picture from motd. If you go solely off that then we had only 1 chance all game they need to do a better edit job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScouseFox Posted 28 December 2014 Share Posted 28 December 2014 If you go solely off that then we had only 1 chance all game they need to do a better edit job well yeah that's why I said you can't fully judge it. point was tho if Schlupp (or anyone) had done anything special going forward they would presumably have shown it? but he didn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwell Pablo Posted 28 December 2014 Share Posted 28 December 2014 He didn't though both of Konchesky's bookings were stupid tackles he didn't have to make, the first was his own fault for over running the ball then lunging in, watch them back Schlupp had nothing to do with our most experienced player acting like a retard, but then you'd need a new reason to blame Schlupp ... Blame him for what we won ffs. I'm saying he wasn't excellent simple statement of fact. Now I might have a different view of excellent to everyone else but to offer a very limited contribution both going forwards and at the back is not excellent. His contribution going forwards was non existent and his contribution at the back neither stopped us getting opened up on that flank on numerous occasions nor did it stop Konchesky (albeit his own fault stupidly) getting sent off. An excellent performance to me would be a player going above and beyond and preventing the attacks down our left and covering the full back to the extent that were fully comfortable and not having to make stupid challenges. He did neither, he was functional today, ineffective going forwards and offer limited protection to Konchesky, If that excellent I say again it's no wonder we are in such trouble, Like punching a brick wall posting here sometimes. It'd probably be more productive as it'd burn more calories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot Posted 28 December 2014 Share Posted 28 December 2014 Starting to sound a bit like Col on Cambiasso with the 'I admitted he played well in that game, but...'. Fact is he was one of our better players today in a win, I might be looking for reasons to praise him, but I'd rather do that than look for reasons to consistently belittle his contribution to the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ttfn Posted 28 December 2014 Share Posted 28 December 2014 well yeah that's why I said you can't fully judge it. point was tho if Schlupp (or anyone) had done anything special going forward they would presumably have shown it? but he didn't? He did nothing going forward today, much the same as pretty much every away game he's played in. Defensively I thought he did pretty well actually, surprised to see MP calling him out for Konchesky getting sent off, especially seeing as the first yellow card was a poor pass by Konchesky followed by a silly foul halfway inside the Hull half. Certainly wasn't "excellent", nobody was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwell Pablo Posted 28 December 2014 Share Posted 28 December 2014 well yeah that's why I said you can't fully judge it. point was tho if Schlupp (or anyone) had done anything special going forward they would presumably have shown it? but he didn't? Think they have a non excellence policy. Jeff Schlupp is too excellent for MOTD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwell Pablo Posted 28 December 2014 Share Posted 28 December 2014 He did nothing going forward today, much the same as pretty much every away game he's played in. Defensively I thought he did pretty well actually, surprised to see MP calling him out for Konchesky getting sent off, especially seeing as the first yellow card was a poor pass by Konchesky followed by a silly foul halfway inside the Hull half. OMG I'd of thought one person would get one I'm on about. To clear up any confusion I am not in anyway shape or form blaming Jeff Schlupp for Paul Koncheskys red, not what I am trying to say at all, in any way or shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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