cjslcfc Posted 27 December 2014 Posted 27 December 2014 As much as I don't think he is good enough for the Premier League, the role he plays seems to be very important to how we play. It's not so much what he does on the ball but what he does off it that seems to be so crucial. Without him there seems to be very little fluidity between the defence and attack. Added to that, Ulloa looks miles better and more dangerous with him on the pitch. Ulloa is also our best striker and most prolific goalscorer so that's got to be important. Our best performances have come with him playing that role. Personally, I think we can get better players for that role but it's starting to seem like while we don't have that other player he needs to play.
Guest LCFC_World Posted 27 December 2014 Posted 27 December 2014 Its his off ball work that makes the team work well. He connects the midfield to the attack, which enables us to create more chances.
Arriba Los Zorros Posted 27 December 2014 Posted 27 December 2014 a lot of sense spoken in this thread, and its clear to see that those who appreciate Nugent understand football. he work he does holding up the ball and bringing midfielders into play is vital to out style going forward, it should be Nugent + Ulloa or Nugent + Vardy quite clearly and I really hope Pearson has realised this now.
Harry - LCFC Posted 27 December 2014 Posted 27 December 2014 Well it'll be him an Ulloa up top against Hull. Hope it fvcking works.
maynefox Posted 27 December 2014 Posted 27 December 2014 I was glad that he was put into the starting line-up today. He's looked lively coming off the bench and as people have been saying: works much better with Ulloa than Vardy, and links the midfield with the attack better.I hope him and Ulloa start up-top v Hull.
jmono84 Posted 27 December 2014 Posted 27 December 2014 Think he deserves to start with ulloa... Thought he did a fine job today and we looked more of a team goin forward with him in it.
Bert Posted 27 December 2014 Posted 27 December 2014 Whether he plays well or not, we're still a better side with him in it.
Richard Posted 27 December 2014 Posted 27 December 2014 He gives us balance, allows Ulloa to affect the game further up the pitch rather than looking to link Vardy and the midfield. We should be looking for a player of a similar mould but with more quality on the ball in Jan though, Nugent plays an important role in our team but just doesn't have enough quality to be a regular starter in the Premier League
Bugg Posted 27 December 2014 Posted 27 December 2014 man's been saying it for months an everyone laughed Alright col calm down
SeattleShane Posted 27 December 2014 Posted 27 December 2014 First touch is v poor - yes he runs for you all day and creates space but at this level we need more than that plus he jumps and parts like the frickin red sea for eriksens free kick He is a striker with one goal and that was a penalty.
SeattleShane Posted 27 December 2014 Posted 27 December 2014 He is a striker with one goal and that was a penalty. The midfield should try to create chances for the strikers to score, not happenning at the moment
Grewks Posted 27 December 2014 Posted 27 December 2014 all went wrong when we dropped him from the hole. then we put him back in the hole and it's seemingly our best performance in 3 months. what's the conundrum? next. actually all went wrong when we tried to incorporate Vardy and cambiasso into a side, which was already picking up results. Ulloa, as he proved again today, is our only forward capable at this level. In Nugent's role...the player needs a quick brain, an eye for a pass, a good touch and the ability to run with the ball. Unfortunately, nuge has none of those and Tom Lawrence would be a far better option there.
ScouseFox Posted 27 December 2014 Posted 27 December 2014 actually all went wrong when we tried to incorporate Vardy and cambiasso into a side, which was already picking up results. yeah when we tried to shoehorn these two in and we went and won 2 on the spin (both players were MOTMs consecutively). that's where it all went wrong. our performances turned to shit when we dropped nugent. I've got no idea why and I don't think he's particularly great at footy, but they did. then we bring him back into the same role and are seemingly very good again. coincidence? conundrum? nah just play him there and stop hatin'
RowlattsFox Posted 27 December 2014 Posted 27 December 2014 We play better with a player like Nugent but in order to win games we need a better version of him.
Matt Posted 27 December 2014 Posted 27 December 2014 I'll be fair and give some balance to my opinions as I always do, I've slagged him off to fuck when he's played recently, yesterday he was better, still not good enough, still ineffective, still didn't really do all that much but better.
dayday Posted 27 December 2014 Posted 27 December 2014 I have always thought Knockaert could play this role,I mentioned him in a top of a diamond a few months ago,obviously the diamond didn't work,yet him behind Ulloa could be very interesting.
Dickov22 Posted 27 December 2014 Posted 27 December 2014 The midfield should try to create chances for the strikers to score, not happenning at the moment Mahrez created plenty yesterday
davieG Posted 27 December 2014 Posted 27 December 2014 Vardy also plays better with Nuge than Ulloa, Vardy and Ulloa isn't anywhere near as effective as Nuge with Ulloa/Vardy
ramadaone Posted 27 December 2014 Posted 27 December 2014 He's good at linking up play. Didn't go but I remember people commenting after Stoke away in the cup last year that we looked a much better side when he came on, that he really helps our flow and rhythm and we under appreciate his role in the team. Thought he did some nice stuff today, albeit not game changing. By link up play I assume you mean when a midfielder gives him the ball with his back to goal he just gives them it back ? The No 10 should be your most creative forward he turns and makes things happen - any muppet can do a wall pass , run around a lot and keep one of the centre halves occupied leaving more space for striking partner We need someone to unlock Premiership defences and that most certainly isn't Nugent Think Mahrez would have been the best option but no point now Nugent does an ok job which will see him remain in the team because if we don't get in some quality defenders on loan then it will all be irrelevant anyway
Captain... Posted 27 December 2014 Author Posted 27 December 2014 By link up play I assume you mean when a midfielder gives him the ball with his back to goal he just gives them it back ? You say that in such a disparaging way, but it wasn't happening at all in previous matches, all attacks were either long balls to Ulloa, chip over the top for Vardy or an ineffectual cross from wide. Nugent playing in that role allowed for Drinkwater to have so much more influence on the play and have more impact in the final third. Some of their one touch passing was great to watch. It also gave the likes of Drinky, Mahrez and Schlupp more time to get forward with Nugent and Ulloa holding it up and we seemed to have more space to attack. This is why I said we play better with Nugent, but he is one of the least effective players, Schlupp, Mahrez, Drinkwater and Ulloa all played better and were more effective than Nugent, you could say Vardy too when he came on, but some how Nugent whilst appearing to be the weakest link brings the best out of everyone else.
Max Power Posted 27 December 2014 Posted 27 December 2014 I'm not his biggest fan but I thought he played quite well yesterday. Linked the play quite nicely, was quite busy. He's never going to make a massive impact at this level becuase he simply doesn't have the attributes but I think we look better with him playing off the front.
cc_star Posted 27 December 2014 Posted 27 December 2014 all went wrong when we dropped him from the hole. then we put him back in the hole and it's seemingly our best performance in 3 months. what's the conundrum? next. Pretty much it, that's our formation, that's our mix of players. Barring the ref missing 2 pens on Ulloa and bottling the one on Vardy which would have lead to a 2nd yellow and Lloris' great touch to tip it behind Morgan, Spurs couldn't have grumbled had they come away shipping 5 or 6. Trick is to play like that against the dross that makes up half the division... And obviously sign a CB who can command the area Nugent's return to fitness key for much of the attacking play
benpicko Posted 27 December 2014 Posted 27 December 2014 Vardy will inevitably come back into the side after a good run of games to add to the attack and everybody will wonder what's changed again when we go back to creating nothing
The Doctor Posted 27 December 2014 Posted 27 December 2014 He is a striker with one goal and that was a penalty. He's not really a striker or a goalscorer in the system he's been played: he's a link player, and he does it well.
jamesmilner Posted 27 December 2014 Posted 27 December 2014 So , some say he doesn't score goals , doesn't create goals , but we are better with him in the side !! What have we become as a team ? ,and our expectations are strange of a forward , oh my days !!
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