Hack Posted 7 July 2015 Posted 7 July 2015 Karanka, fat Sam or dyche would be fine for me. Someone posted some info on that Jocelyn gournvennec yesterday and he seemed quite impressive, although I had never heard of him before. I basically don't want a foreign dinosaur, here to spunk all our money up the wall, on players that are only here because of his name (not to mention the huge salaries). Strokes. i am just glad you have been brave enough to put some names out there. It really gets annoying that so many posters just keep saying about any name offered, not good enough not for me we can do better etc etc but make no suggestions about who or whom is acceptable. If most of our fans had their way, no one will take the job. Good for you. I only hope everyone at least is prepared to give a realistic name when saying the one they are commenting on is not acceptable.
Babylon Posted 7 July 2015 Posted 7 July 2015 Allardyce has been sacked a few times for a supposed good manager. By teams who think they are better than him... and turn out not to be.
Strokes Posted 7 July 2015 Posted 7 July 2015 Allardyce has been sacked a few times for a supposed good manager.He has, but then he is proven in the modern English game. As recently as last season. Also knowing the details those sackings, makes it easier to dismiss all 3. Iirc both Blackburn and Newcastle got relegated soon after.
TheSomersetFox Posted 7 July 2015 Posted 7 July 2015 By teams who think they are better than him... and turn out not to be. He has been sacked quite a few times for a supposed good manager. i was trying to prove a point
TheSomersetFox Posted 7 July 2015 Posted 7 July 2015 He has, but then he is proven in the modern English game. As recently as last season. Also knowing the details those sackings, makes it easier to dismiss all 3. Iirc both Blackburn and Newcastle got relegated soon after. Pretty harsh to knock Ranieri for it though when he apparently did good work at those clubs before he was sacked aswell. didn't win much at Chelsea but signed Makelele and Lampard aswell i think, whereas Allardyce went and spunked £8m on Matt Jarvis and 15 on Carroll.
Guest Col city fan Posted 7 July 2015 Posted 7 July 2015 Again...to sack Pearson to replace him with the tinker man! WTF!
The Doctor Posted 7 July 2015 Posted 7 July 2015 Ranieri has won next to nothing with all of those top clubs! At least Lennon is young, hungry, would have some loyalty to Leicester. I'd take him any day of the week over Ranieri. Ranieri isn't that old, if he wants the job he's going to be hungry, and more importantly he's a far better manager than Neil Lennon - a man who failed to win the title with Celtic in the one season he had any competition for it, and who has been average at best in the lower half of the championship. Don't be blinded by his playing CV, that's all Lennon has going for him.
DennisNedry Posted 7 July 2015 Posted 7 July 2015 No to these old washed up foreign managers. I miss Nigel
Darkon84 Posted 7 July 2015 Posted 7 July 2015 Ahhhhh 'The Firefighter'. Not a bad shout for a short term fix.
indierich06 Posted 7 July 2015 Posted 7 July 2015 Again...to sack Pearson to replace him with the tinker man! WTF! Weren't you telling us all to calm down and chill out the other day?
Rusko187 Posted 7 July 2015 Posted 7 July 2015 Is everyone backwards on this forum? I've read a few people who would prefer Lennon to Ranieri??? For real?? Lennon has managed at Celtic and Bolton, hasn't achieved a great deal at Bolton and frankly my nan could win Celtic the title. Ranieri has been at many more top european clubs, you look at his win percentages and there is absolutely nothing in it to suggest he won't be a success at our club. Naturally I would love for Klopp to come, realistically Ranieri has thrown his name into the hat and I think we could 100% get him in. Has a name to attract better players and is tactically adept, we are not Barcelona and we were playing 2nd tier football a couple of seasons ago.. Ranieri would be a fantastic step in the right direction!
Julian Joachim Jr Shabadoo Posted 7 July 2015 Posted 7 July 2015 Anagram time! Radio urinal ice Ciao India ruler A acrid urine oil I'd ruin a calorie.
Strokes Posted 7 July 2015 Posted 7 July 2015 Pretty harsh to knock Ranieri for it though when he apparently did good work at those clubs before he was sacked aswell. didn't win much at Chelsea but signed Makelele and Lampard aswell i think, whereas Allardyce went and spunked £8m on Matt Jarvis and 15 on Carroll.Whilst that is true, he left Chelsea around a decade ago and hasn't had much success (Monaco the exception) since and quite a few posts. He hasn't been short of investment either. I'm not saying he would be the worst appointment in the world but he doesn't tick as many boxes as allardyce for me. Also he sold us Dennis wise, unforgivable in my opinion
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 7 July 2015 Posted 7 July 2015 looks like a young brando in this pic - SORT IT OUT TOP
davieG Posted 7 July 2015 Posted 7 July 2015 If we were interested in him we'd have already contacted him.
inckley fox Posted 7 July 2015 Posted 7 July 2015 Is everyone backwards on this forum? I've read a few people who would prefer Lennon to Ranieri??? For real?? Lennon has managed at Celtic and Bolton, hasn't achieved a great deal at Bolton and frankly my nan could win Celtic the title. Ranieri has been at many more top european clubs, you look at his win percentages and there is absolutely nothing in it to suggest he won't be a success at our club. Naturally I would love for Klopp to come, realistically Ranieri has thrown his name into the hat and I think we could 100% get him in. Has a name to attract better players and is tactically adept, we are not Barcelona and we were playing 2nd tier football a couple of seasons ago.. Ranieri would be a fantastic step in the right direction! In the 90s he was definitely an excellent manager with Cagliari, Napoli, Fiorentina, Valencia and he did well enough with Chelsea at the turn of the decade. From then on he was hit and miss. His second spell at Valencia was a disaster, he did well in a short spell at Parma, then started brightly but fell away with Juventus, Roma and Inter, before doing another very decent job with Monaco. Greece - the less said the better, of course, but it's hard to slate a good club manager for his international record. The problems, however, are numerous. He's been at big, big clubs without winning a great deal and has a habit of starting well in jobs, making a quick impact, then struggling after his first year in the top flight. He's also 63 which, while by no means 'too old', suggests the same problem as O'Neill - that his declining record is an indication of a declining manager. His greatest years in management were, by some margin, in the 1990s. On top of that he's not managed in the PL in over a decade, had some language problems the first time around, and has been out of club management all together for a couple of years. That said, I'd argue his credentials are better than Hiddink's in terms of recent success and you're right to suggest that there is nothing in his record to have us too worried about impending relegation. Even Klopp has some blots on his copy book - his final seasons at Dortmund, and a relegation (with Mainz?), so there are never any guarantees. Whether he really is a declining force, or is big enough a 'name' for the owners, or is a good 'fit' for a set-up like ours, I'm not sure. But it's true that he has a habit of catapulting nothing-sides into contention for major trophies, even in recent history, and there are clearly far worse names being thrown about. I'm not keen on the 'who's famous and willing to manage us?' strategy, because it's hard to separate your Hiddinks from your Ranieris from your Svens and Avram Grants, but if that's going to be the strategy than Ranieri might have the better credentials for a club in our position.
inckley fox Posted 7 July 2015 Posted 7 July 2015 looks like a young brando in this pic - SORT IT OUT TOP He doesn't look much like that any more, sadly.
ScouseFox Posted 7 July 2015 Posted 7 July 2015 looks like a young brando in this pic - SORT IT OUT TOP he looks so upset on that pic. at least we know what his face will be when wes scores his tenth own goal of the season already
Dan Posted 7 July 2015 Posted 7 July 2015 Newcastle have spent one year below the top flight since 1994. I'd take that. Newcastle are absolutely deprived of ambition, despite having a terrific scouting system in place. They could well push for the top eight on an annual basis but won't. That isn't an attitude I want to adopt. I don't think the owners want to appoint a big name just for the sake of profile, i think they want a big name, a relatively 'proven' name, for the sake of advancing us in footballing terms. We tend to look at Pearson as being the 'safe' option, but a slow and steady building of the team comes with its own risks. We'd be vulnerable to relegation battles for quite some time, so I could understand the owners wanting to throw money at it in the hopes of putting as much distance between us and the relegation zone as possible, a la Man City. It's a gamble, but almost anything ambitious in football is. That being said, we haven't splashed out crazy sums of money in this transfer market, and we don't know who they want for manager or who we'll actually get. So we might end up being more conservative than some people expect. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying they're going all out to appoint someone crap - but we really did have it in place to advance anyway in my opinion. Under Pearson I could see us steadily climbing the table - he proved himself he wasn't scared to spend the money if he deemed it necessary. We may well appoint a Ranieri or Hiddink, and it ends up working as we continue with a sensible recruitment policy, whilst being able to attract a higher calibre of player - but there are no guarantees.
Socks Posted 7 July 2015 Posted 7 July 2015 Would deffo prefer him to Lennon, Pearce, Cotteril or Rednkapp anyday
Dan Posted 7 July 2015 Posted 7 July 2015 Anagram time! Radio urinal ice Ciao India ruler A acrid urine oil I'd ruin a calorie. Heartbroken his name isn't Rannieri. I'd ruin a Caroline.
Gerard Posted 7 July 2015 Posted 7 July 2015 Signing managers that used to be top drawer 10-20 years a go is like signing Ronaldhino because he used to good. I don't want a 60+ manager who has done it all but has generally failed for the last 5-10 years. I would question their dedication, drive and ambition to throw themselves into the club and do everything possible to succeed. The game may have overtaken them and they're now dinosaurs in today's game. Playing football is a meritocracy, management probably isn't. There will be potential world class managers out there at some obscure teams who will never get the chance to manage a half decent club. I don't want us to sign a washed up has been, lets consign these to history or lets some other mugs pick them up. We should be researching and targeting what we consider to be the best young talented managers in the game and looking at that sort of profile to recruit.
Viva Posted 7 July 2015 Posted 7 July 2015 Ranieri isn't that old, if he wants the job he's going to be hungry, and more importantly he's a far better manager than Neil Lennon - a man who failed to win the title with Celtic in the one season he had any competition for it, and who has been average at best in the lower half of the championship. Don't be blinded by his playing CV, that's all Lennon has going for him. Not entirely true. In 2011-12 he won the league with Rangers in it. In 2010-11 in the one season he didn't win the league, they won the cup and only lost by 1 point. Anyway, you can only beat the teams put in front of you. He did a decent job in the little amount of time he had at Bolton too.
Viva Posted 7 July 2015 Posted 7 July 2015 Signing managers that used to be top drawer 10-20 years a go is like signing Ronaldhino because he used to good. I don't want a 60+ manager who has done it all but has generally failed for the last 5-10 years. I would question their dedication, drive and ambition to throw themselves into the club and do everything possible to succeed. The game may have overtaken them and they're now dinosaurs in today's game. Playing football is a meritocracy, management probably isn't. There will be potential world class managers out there at some obscure teams who will never get the chance to manage a half decent club. I don't want us to sign a washed up has been, lets consign these to history or lets some other mugs pick them up. We should be researching and targeting what we consider to be the best young talented managers in the game and looking at that sort of profile to recruit. I'd go with that.
Ricey Posted 7 July 2015 Posted 7 July 2015 Signing managers that used to be top drawer 10-20 years a go is like signing Ronaldhino because he used to good. I don't want a 60+ manager who has done it all but has generally failed for the last 5-10 years. I would question their dedication, drive and ambition to throw themselves into the club and do everything possible to succeed. The game may have overtaken them and they're now dinosaurs in today's game. Playing football is a meritocracy, management probably isn't. There will be potential world class managers out there at some obscure teams who will never get the chance to manage a half decent club. I don't want us to sign a washed up has been, lets consign these to history or lets some other mugs pick them up. We should be researching and targeting what we consider to be the best young talented managers in the game and looking at that sort of profile to recruit. Spot on. Reports suggest the owners want a big-name to repair the reputations of themselves, the club and King Power in Asia. That is an idiotic way to run a football club. A successful football club is about what occurs on the pitch, not the past achievements of it's manager nor the reputation it has in Asia.
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