Crinklyfox Posted 14 July 2015 Posted 14 July 2015 I think this season will be difficult, especially early on when the squad is adapting to Ranieri's tactics should those be different to the successful formation and style of play at the end of last season. We have a harder finish to the season this time, so any underachievement in the Autumn could be catastrophic. So I expect that we'll be in a relegation battle again, whereas before NP was sacked I was expecting an improvement on last season.
Blanesta Posted 14 July 2015 Posted 14 July 2015 It would be nice to beat last seasons final position, survival is the main aim though.
Guest Posted 14 July 2015 Posted 14 July 2015 Survival. Anything else is a bonus after the shambles of the last few weeks.
Merging Cultures Posted 14 July 2015 Posted 14 July 2015 12th and a decent cup run. Hopefully less of a heart attack season.
Hirsty The Blue 94 Posted 14 July 2015 Author Posted 14 July 2015 General consensus seems to be people will be happy with survival, but I'm not sure the owners will settle for that. They seemed to have signalled their intent by picking Claudio and I'm worried they will try to push on before we are consolidated in this league. If we are in a relegation scrap come December I can see them getting an itchy trigger finger.
inckley fox Posted 14 July 2015 Posted 14 July 2015 I have no idea. He has been involved in a few major slumps in his career, but usually in the second or third season and as a result of experimenting, often mid-match, with what appears to be a winning formula. At Atletico they were already in all sorts of financial trouble and suffered relegation under him in, what, a year? Hopefully he's a better manager than he was back then. Here he's going to find a whole different set of problems caused by parting with a successful manager. 17th would probably be a reasonable expectation, but if we get off to a bad start he won't enjoy the sort of patience O'Neill, or even Lennon / Cambiasso would have enjoyed, purely because of fans' affiliations. I will personally give him time, but his problem will be that many will direct their anger at Pearson's departure, and the board's actions, at him if things go wrong. If that happens we'll go down and have to look for Pearson mk.2 next year. Personally I've never been a big fan of the 'big name' appointment. As many of them seem to go wrong as go right, and he could well be too stark a contrast to what we had under Pearson, whereas a younger, upcoming manager more in the typical LCFC mould might have had the energy to reanimate the squad. However, if the board are determined to bring in their big continental name, and they clearly are, then he is as good an option as any. His CV suggests he has the capacity, in there somewhere, to pleasantly surprise people.
dmayne7 Posted 14 July 2015 Posted 14 July 2015 My expectations are now higher. That's probably a little unfair but I think we have to be aiming for a top 10 finish now. Under Pearson I would've just said aim to improve on last year and take survival but I think getting rid of him and going after a 'big name' manager means that Claudio is going to get less leniency. I guess it depends on how much he spends/breaks up the squad. The more he does that, the higher my expectation and lower my patience will be.
Ollie93 Posted 14 July 2015 Posted 14 July 2015 My expectations are now higher. That's probably a little unfair but I think we have to be aiming for a top 10 finish now. Under Pearson I would've just said aim to improve on last year and take survival but I think getting rid of him and going after a 'big name' manager means that Claudio is going to get less leniency. I guess it depends on how much he spends/breaks up the squad. The more he does that, the higher my expectation and lower my patience will be. At the same time, let's not turn in Newcastle fans and want to kick out every manager just because they don't finish top 6, lets give him time at least.
inckley fox Posted 14 July 2015 Posted 14 July 2015 General consensus seems to be people will be happy with survival, but I'm not sure the owners will settle for that. They seemed to have signalled their intent by picking Claudio and I'm worried they will try to push on before we are consolidated in this league. If we are in a relegation scrap come December I can see them getting an itchy trigger finger. That's about right. But if the first few games go badly I wouldn't be surprised to see considerable hostility towards the board, and long before the season's half-way point. Fingers crossed he hits the ground running, but I can't think of many examples of a manager leaving a squad that he crafted behind, at the peak of his success, and the next manager coming in and doing well. But I'm sure there are a few.
inckley fox Posted 14 July 2015 Posted 14 July 2015 At the same time, let's not turn in Newcastle fans and want to kick out every manager just because they don't finish top 6, lets give him time at least. I like to see the optimism but this is important. If we finished 20th it wouldn't be entirely his fault, I'm sure. 17th would be perfectly respectable, considering the circumstances. We can't underestimate the impact of Pearson's departure on the squad and, if things get off to a shaky start, the fans too.
foxfanazer Posted 14 July 2015 Posted 14 July 2015 I have no idea. He has been involved in a few major slumps in his career, but usually in the second or third season and as a result of experimenting, often mid-match, with what appears to be a winning formula. At Atletico they were already in all sorts of financial trouble and suffered relegation under him in, what, a year? Hopefully he's a better manager than he was back then. Here he's going to find a whole different set of problems caused by parting with a successful manager. 17th would probably be a reasonable expectation, but if we get off to a bad start he won't enjoy the sort of patience O'Neill, or even Lennon / Cambiasso would have enjoyed, purely because of fans' affiliations. I will personally give him time, but his problem will be that many will direct their anger at Pearson's departure, and the board's actions, at him if things go wrong. If that happens we'll go down and have to look for Pearson mk.2 next year. Personally I've never been a big fan of the 'big name' appointment. As many of them seem to go wrong as go right, and he could well be too stark a contrast to what we had under Pearson, whereas a younger, upcoming manager more in the typical LCFC mould might have had the energy to reanimate the squad. However, if the board are determined to bring in their big continental name, and they clearly are, then he is as good an option as any. His CV suggests he has the capacity, in there somewhere, to pleasantly surprise people. Couldn't have put it better myself. His best bet is to gradually build on the solid foundations already set at the club. If he comes in and makes too many big changes and then fails he'll not last long here imo
Happy Fox Posted 14 July 2015 Posted 14 July 2015 Avoiding relegation as soon as possible then take it from there. Would like us to win the FA Cup! Ranieri has got a decent cup record.
cc_star Posted 14 July 2015 Posted 14 July 2015 Increase on last season's points total was pretty likely given our final quarter of season and with the addition of Huth for a full season and Fuchs too, retention of last season's best players was a given too Now I fear they'll be too much boat rocking and not only may we not build on the last few seasons but I'm fearing a relegation fight after spunking loads of money on players unsuitable for us I would love nothing more than Ranieri to prove me wrong and justify Pearson's sacking and his own appointment. Please, please do it Tinkerman, please. If it goes sour, him and the owners won't get much patience from me, the sacking of someone who's more than delivered on your aims and has a record of building on sure foundations, continual improvement etc at such a key part of preseason needs justifying by truly going 'next level'.
The Doctor Posted 14 July 2015 Posted 14 July 2015 Same as every season, an improvement on the last one. So 13th or above. Unless we spend absolutely ridiculous money I see no reason for that to change. out of interest, would you consider finishing lower but with a better points total (so a tougher division meaning 45 points only gets 15th) an improvement. improvement by any means for me, more points, not needing a great end to survive, so comfortable midtable. Worrying the cups would be a bonus. After this farce of a pre-season, I don't think 17th or above would be that much of a failure though, we've set ourselves 2 weeks behind everyone else in terms of signings and tactical preparation after all.
jock2612 Posted 14 July 2015 Posted 14 July 2015 I think a good start takes the pressure off everyone and if by Christmas we are 11th/12th it will be easy to add in the Jan window.We HAVE to stay in the and with the addition of some quality in midfield I think we will finish 11th/12th which for a second season in the prem is not bad!!
RowlattsFox Posted 14 July 2015 Posted 14 July 2015 Survival first and foremost and then see what happens from there. It probably depends on how much cash we spend. I'd take a season similar to West Brom last year, occasional flirt with relegation but generally always going to be save and was comfortable in the end.
dylanlegend Posted 14 July 2015 Posted 14 July 2015 This year will be even tougher than last year. Some of the signings the teams around us and the promoted teams are making are top quality, we need to sign 2-3 quality players and hopefully we can stay up. A cup run would be nice but not at the expense of our PL survival.
Mikey Posted 14 July 2015 Posted 14 July 2015 I'll be very happy to just stay up after this pre-season. Think it will take time for the players to adjust to Claudio. Whether that will be enough for the owners, we will see. With Pearson I would have expected at least 14th.
fuchsntf Posted 14 July 2015 Posted 14 July 2015 I am a a true blue, I am a fan, I believe, I dream, its my right..... After the owners themselves threw down the Guantlet,by mentioning their development targets, my expectations for this evolving club of mine is quite simple really...... Top 12, no long struggles in bottom 3. As a fanatic I expect a good ol' Foxes cup run. The base of the squad stays together , with some suprise and exceptional player additions. Press/media, ex-negative-players, other teams fans are left speachless and envious of our success, and shrewd management. I am a fan, I dont do compromises, or have low expectations.......my team is the best...Well!! until circumstances and uptodate facts, might need to change/adjust accordingly.
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