Vacamion Posted 18 August 2015 Posted 18 August 2015 Most of the club's British legends of yesteryear were from nowhere near Leicester. Walsheh Taggart Gary Mac Wortho Izzet Where do you draw the line, regarding "our identity".
Out Foxed Posted 18 August 2015 Posted 18 August 2015 Oka-San plays like an old fashioned English CF. and the spine of our team is English. So shaddup.
Wymsey Posted 18 August 2015 Posted 18 August 2015 Hate it when certain people moan about our current success and moan about little things. Just enjoy the ride, and stop being miserable.
RobHawk Posted 18 August 2015 Posted 18 August 2015 To be fair, leicester as a city is one of the most multi cultural diverse places in the UK and that's something we should embrace and be proud of. This whole british, non british argument is irrelevant though, especially in football. As a football club, I do feel our club identity has changed recently but I see this as a positive thing as I feel the club has been more aligned with the fan base over the last few seasons than any other time I personally remember. I've never been prouder to be a leicester fan and this includes the O'Neil years. It helps we've had some success but it's more than that - we seem to be doing things the right way, building for future success and not just looking at the short term goals. A bit of gold on the kit, a few foreign players and king power as sponsors really don't make much difference to me in regards to my teams identity as that's a little short sighted when you look at the bigger picture!
ScouseFox Posted 18 August 2015 Posted 18 August 2015 It's important for representatives to engage with the community that have supported them for generations, Mark Albrighton did a session with some children this week I believe. I don't feel that N'Golo Kante or Riyad Mahrez would be as welcoming to these projects as say, Andy King or Wes Morgan, because they don't relate to the people they are communicating to and vice versa. One of the reason I thought Nigel Pearson was such a fantastic manager for Leicester was because he would visit local charities like LOROS and shake the hand of Buddhist Monks and seemed to have a genuine respect for the people and things he was supporting as a representative of the football club. https://instagram.com/p/wblj0pFvoE/
Sharpe's Fox Posted 18 August 2015 Posted 18 August 2015 I've definitely seen articles on lcfc.com with Mahrez doing what Albrightons done. I think the club like all the players to do it. Cambiasso and Kramaric attended events last season. I'm sure all players are contractually obliged to do so by the club, but I wouldn't think they engage with it as throughly for the reasons I have mentioned. It is important for Swansea to have an Ashley Williams or Tottenham a Harry Kane or Newcastle a Jack Colback not just to reinforce the clubs mentality on the pitch but also its morals and ideals off it by someone who genuinely respects and understands them. https://instagram.com/p/wblj0pFvoE/ That's fair enough.
bluesbrothers Posted 18 August 2015 Posted 18 August 2015 To be fair our team on Saturday consisted of: Wes Morgan - Born In Nottingham Schlupp - Grew up in England Albrighton - Born in Birmingham King - Born in Devon Drinkwater - Born in Manchester Vardy - Born in Sheffield Not really a problem in my opinion. Don't forget Schmeichel, he's a Manc too! The majority of our players would be eligible for England / home nations teams if they were willing to take the chance, but they simply chose other nations where they could get international football or to which they have family roots. And who can blame them with a brick wall facing their progression at international level if they don't play for a top four club? Vardy has been ridiculously lucky to even get a cap, regardless of how brilliant we all know he is. Morgan is definately a British citizen, and I'm pretty sure Schlupp and Schmeichel are too. People maybe need to have a look at the history of some of our players instead of making sweeping assumptions based on the flag that appears next to their name on Wikipedia. Personally, I wish players wouldn't have to choose who they play for until that international FA personally makes a call for them. That would allow them to make a choice without feeling they're risking cutting off their chance to play on the international stage.
Fuch Me Moore Posted 18 August 2015 Posted 18 August 2015 Of course we are not losing our identity, we are making changes and evolving into a stronger squad, better players and hopefully a higher position in the league. It is a dream world for a premier league side to be English, it's about staying in the division and giving the good talents we have at the club the chance when we can, vardy, king, albrighton, schlupp (I know he plays for Ghana), Moore, drinky. Far more than many clubs in this league!!!
coolcol Posted 18 August 2015 Posted 18 August 2015 Mate everyone is entitled to their opinion. You are typical of the extreme PC nutter we have in this country, that makes people afraid to voice an opinion. He is not a nutter..he is not Xenophobic and he is not BNP in my view....you are just intolerant of someone who views the world differently than you. BTW I speak this as an Irish immigrant foxes fan of 28 years. Less Brits in the team is bad for the national team not Leicester though, it's just that someone from Leicester can relate more to someone born and bred in the UK moreso than someone born abroad, it does not mean they are racist in any way. ----------------------------- OMG. This forum has again revealed itself as being full of nutters living in 1960. "I would prefer a mostly English/British team" - Leicester is a team based in the UK "..I feel most people can relate to that" - small-minded xenophobia "the less indigenous our team becomes" - illusions of authentic origin much the same as the BNP OMG. This forum has again revealed itself as being full of nutters living in 1960. "I would prefer a mostly English/British team" - Leicester is a team based in the UK "..I feel most people can relate to that" - small-minded xenophobia "the less indigenous our team becomes" - illusions of authentic origin much the same as the BNP
Hirsty The Blue 94 Posted 18 August 2015 Posted 18 August 2015 Although the point hasn't been raised very well by the OP, it is a potentially valid point. I don't want us to sign just a midfielder from Europe playing in the top leagues just because it is the easy option, who might not be any better than what we have/could get, rather than having a diverse scouting system across the smaller foreign leagues, English reserves, non league etc. Getting value for money is not as important to us now because we have alot to throw about, but I don't want to abandon what has got us here and kept us here just to completely shift. I couldn't give a shit if the player is from England or Ethiopia to be honest though, as long as the understand the desire required of a Leicester City player.
STUHILL Posted 18 August 2015 Posted 18 August 2015 We are battling for the title with the likes of Man CIty, Chelsea, Arsenal etc and look how many foreign players they buy just to compete. We need to keep pace with our rivals so this is necessary and unfortunately what is expected from being a top 4 team...
Long Eaton Fox Posted 18 August 2015 Author Posted 18 August 2015 My point is that the likes of James, Drinkwater, Moore, King, Hammond and the departed Nugent, Koncheski and maybe Lawrence will not be part of our team. A big change and the replacements are not British. English teams are now 33% English. I have no problem with overseas players but how many should we have.
Kitchandro Posted 18 August 2015 Posted 18 August 2015 Vardy, Albrighton, Drinkwater, King and Morgan all started on Saturday and they were all born in England. Despite playing for other countries King and Morgan are blatantly English and you can add Schlupp to that list really as he's grown up here. I'm not going to say I don't care where they're from as long as we're good because frankly I don't agree with that. I wouldn't be happy if we, an English club, had no English players - but that's simply not the case.
Kitchandro Posted 18 August 2015 Posted 18 August 2015 We are losing our identity, but not for the reasons you have outlined. Personally, I don't really have a problem with the club adopting an international recruitment policy at all. This is a competitive league where clubs can attract players from all over the world, and we need to attract the best we can to compete. The loss of identity comes mainly from our featureless stadium and the fact that it is named after the owners' company. I know this can sound like a minor grumble but I really think it matters to people. The club is essentially a megaphone for the promotion of a duty-free company, but most people don't care because I think the majority now see this as the price of success. Agree with this. To have an identity we need to be traditional and unique - the stadium doesn't help with that. The players are never the identity of the club, they come and go. It's the fans, stadium, colours, songs etc which are the constant. And I agree, they do matter, far more than whether the team is successful. It's not so much I don't mind things like the generic poorly-designed stadium or it's crap name, or the old on our kit instead of white - but more what the hell can I do about it? Of course, if the club went too far to the extent where I thought they were taking our identity away (such as changing the first kit colour etc) then I'd quickly let them now it was unacceptable. All we can do as fans is try to keep our identity with what we can control.
Sleepy Fox Posted 18 August 2015 Posted 18 August 2015 All of our signings so far are non British, although I'm impressed with all of them. I would prefer a mostly English/British team as I feel most most people can relate to that. It would seem that the higher we would like to progress, the less indigenous our team becomes. What is the compromise? Do you have an issue with foreign supporters too?
Tuna Posted 18 August 2015 Posted 18 August 2015 Hull proudly signed British last summer and look where it got them. I'm happy with my multinational team, thankyou.
TheLittleBigMan Posted 18 August 2015 Posted 18 August 2015 British players are ludicrously over priced, if a foreign player with the same skill is half the price it's a no-brainer from a financial view point. As-long as we keep a good number of british players comparatively i'll be happy.
Dan Posted 18 August 2015 Posted 18 August 2015 I honestly don't think we are, and that's what's impressed me most about Ranieri. Foreign players/managers are a part of the package and I personally think that as much as it'd be nice to have more class of 92 and La Masia stories, it's not a bad thing to have foreign players in the league. The number of them is pretty damning reading for an England fan (but that's a whole other argument) but our identity of a high pressing, attacking and entertaining side looks well in tact, and I'd argue our football this season's been even better than the run-in last year. I'm not getting carried away as it is only two games, but what little we have to go on is very encouraging in my eyes and our identity retention is really satisfying.
Lord Nibblington Posted 19 August 2015 Posted 19 August 2015 I'm sure all players are contractually obliged to do so by the club, but I wouldn't think they engage with it as throughly for the reasons I have mentioned. It is important for Swansea to have an Ashley Williams or Tottenham a Harry Kane or Newcastle a Jack Colback not just to reinforce the clubs mentality on the pitch but also its morals and ideals off it by someone who genuinely respects and understands them. That's fair enough. I think I understand the point you're making, but you start with an odd choice. Ashley Williams' link with Swansea is he's played there for 7 years. He has no link to Swansea beyond that - he was born in the West Midlands. His understanding of the morals and ideals of the club is based on him being there for a long period of time. Which can happen to any player of any nationality, surely?
ozleicester Posted 19 August 2015 Posted 19 August 2015 Have they got to be born in Leicester?... or can it be the east midlands generally?.... or the midlands?... or just England?.... or can it be the UK?..... or europe?
AyewJoking Posted 19 August 2015 Posted 19 August 2015 We've got Vardy and he is most English person of all time.
Number 6 Posted 19 August 2015 Posted 19 August 2015 Nationality has no bearing on the team identity for me. In fact, I'd say our style of play is giving us a stronger identity now. People site Swansea and Southampton as good examples of how to succeed but their success stems from having a style of play that doesn't change. That's the identity part for me. That and the fans of course, who have been superb since West Ham at home last season.
gerrytaggart Posted 19 August 2015 Posted 19 August 2015 Who gives a flying **** where someone was born....thats not important.
Steven Posted 19 August 2015 Posted 19 August 2015 All of our signings so far are non British, although I'm impressed with all of them. I would prefer a mostly English/British team as I feel most most people can relate to that. It would seem that the higher we would like to progress, the less indigenous our team becomes. What is the compromise? Are you Andy from Long Eaton? Go and support Derby or Forest.
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