Tincy Posted 17 November 2015 Posted 17 November 2015 Don't usually get involved with online rants etc but the amount of uneducated bellends that are posting racist comments and are " excited for war" when they're nothing but stereotypical Jeremy Kyle applicants need to get a grip and have some respect.
Fox92 Posted 17 November 2015 Posted 17 November 2015 Don't usually get involved with online rants etc but the amount of uneducated bellends that are posting racist comments and are " excited for war" when they're nothing but stereotypical Jeremy Kyle applicants need to get a grip and have some respect. We know; you said the same thing last night.
Tincy Posted 17 November 2015 Posted 17 November 2015 We know; you said the same thing last night. Yet the same posters are still at it. Have some respect.
Samilktray Posted 17 November 2015 Posted 17 November 2015 We know; you said the same thing last night. I swear I read the exact same post last night, I was so confused
Rincewind Posted 17 November 2015 Posted 17 November 2015 Don't usually get involved with online rants etc but the amount of uneducated bellends that are posting racist comments and are " excited for war" when they're nothing but stereotypical Jeremy Kyle applicants need to get a grip and have some respect. Saw that phrase used on Facebook. Was not you was it? It may have been on here.
Tincy Posted 17 November 2015 Posted 17 November 2015 Saw that phrase used on Facebook. Was not you was it? It may have been on here. I posted it on here last night
Rincewind Posted 17 November 2015 Posted 17 November 2015 Don't usually get involved with online rants etc but the amount of uneducated bellends that are posting racist comments and are " excited for war" when they're nothing but stereotypical Jeremy Kyle applicants need to get a grip and have some respect.
yorkie1999 Posted 17 November 2015 Posted 17 November 2015 Were you born in 1999? Education is getting worse. Why is education getting worse?
Stadt Posted 17 November 2015 Posted 17 November 2015 It's not long ago that christian was killing christian (as opposed to the maiming happening now) in the name of religion on OUR OWN soil. It was still hundreds of years ago fif
Wymsey Posted 17 November 2015 Posted 17 November 2015 These incidents have clearly given European countries the urge to increase security in most places. A big kick in the backside was needed from this, as this has been quite unexpected.
Alf Bentley Posted 17 November 2015 Posted 17 November 2015 I literarally didn't mean anything like what you've assumed. Hatred is being clearly being preached in an attempt to recruit in Europe. This means that there are people out there making themselves known to Muslims in an attempt to breed new ISIS recruits. No? I'm simply saying that people who listen to this should be making efforts to ensure that as few people get to hear these preachers as possible. This comes about by informing the police. Fair enough. I'm all in favour of them "informing the police", but saying that "Muslims need to self-police better" suggested something different to me - that one particular cultural group should be held responsible for preventing the violent intent of a small minority of their number. I've no idea how many Muslims inform the police about dangerous individuals, but am sure that more could be encouraged to do so. Likewise, I'm sure there are dangerous elements who could be weeded out of mosques That can only be one strand of the approach, though. It's a constant that neighbours/family members are astonished when they discover that a particular individual has got involved with Jihadis. But I'm sure that a lot of parents and neighbours of people on here would be surprised by what they get up to (hopefully on a much less damaging level!). That's not particularly surprising as young men often lead lives quite separate from those of older generations - and its doubly unsurprising if many of them are being radicalised over the internet, in prison or 1-to-1 at youth groups etc. Intelligence has a role to play - particularly with radicalisation by internet. Education, too, but not just tokenistic discussions in schools.... I mean education (of all parts of the wider community) through greater contact between different ethnic, cultural or religious groups in everyday life: "inter-culturalism" as someone once described it (as opposed to just the choice between divisive multiculturalism and complete assimilation). Banning all faith schools, using housing and community work policies to encourage mixed communities and staging cross-cultural events might all help. Likewise, actively educating those with grievances (e.g. Muslim youth angered at Western actions in the Middle East) to raise those grievances through the democratic process (protests, campaigns, elections, whatever) instead of ending up in the hands of hate preachers and violent Jihadists.
Alf Bentley Posted 17 November 2015 Posted 17 November 2015 It was still hundreds of years ago fif I assume he's referring to the Northern Ireland "Troubles" (what an awful euphemism that is). Less bloody than Islamist Jihad, but quite bloody enough - was it about 3000 killed over 25 years? - and certainly not hundreds of years ago.
Stadt Posted 17 November 2015 Posted 17 November 2015 I assume he's referring to the Northern Ireland "Troubles" (what an awful euphemism that is). Less bloody than Islamist Jihad, but quite bloody enough - was it about 3000 killed over 25 years? - and certainly not hundreds of years ago. Crikey I've had a mare there, I was thinking of English civil wars
Webbo Posted 17 November 2015 Posted 17 November 2015 I assume he's referring to the Northern Ireland "Troubles" (what an awful euphemism that is). Less bloody than Islamist Jihad, but quite bloody enough - was it about 3000 killed over 25 years? - and certainly not hundreds of years ago. Wasn't really about religion though was it? It was nationalist versus loyalist, Catholic v protestant was merely coincidental.
Rincewind Posted 17 November 2015 Posted 17 November 2015 There are cross multi-cultural events. Just near me there is the Highfield centre that runs a food-bank by people of all all faiths. There is a place next to the cathedral that holds various meetings open to all. And I say that as a non-religious person. It is not just people that are already Muslims that are being radicalised. Some are white British young men. As Alf says probably inside prisons. It is no good stopping them after conversion. The root causes have to be tackled and that will mean improving conditions interaction in communities.
AKCJ Posted 17 November 2015 Posted 17 November 2015 Why is education getting worse? He still don't get it.
Alf Bentley Posted 17 November 2015 Posted 17 November 2015 Wasn't really about religion though was it? It was nationalist versus loyalist, Catholic v protestant was merely coincidental. True to a large extent: Unionist v. Nationalist and, on a different level, Republican v. Loyalist were to the fore in "The Troubles". But religion was more than coincidental to the historical roots of the problem, together with land rights, the right of self-determination (Catholic Irish minority within the UK, Protestant British-Irish minority within Ireland), minority rights within the North after partition etc. etc, Anyway, that's a whole different debate that I don't want to get into - particularly as it would take this thread off-topic. I was only trying to clarify matters re. FIF's comment. Going to be a strange match to watch tonight. Will almost be watching the crowd more than the players.
GaelicFox Posted 17 November 2015 Posted 17 November 2015 Stoner to suicide bomber This story has been repeated many many times since the jihadist twats have started to blow themselves up in Europe London, Madrid and paris all now have lapsed Muslims who were drifting along to nowhere getting high daily on hash and boom Ne t thing they are suicide bombers and getting very fecking HIGH ! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3322385/Ex-wife-Comptoir-Voltaire-caf-bomber-reveals-jobless-layabout-spent-day-bed-smoking-pot-French-say-blew-mistake-fiddling-suicide-vest.html
J.Lisemore Posted 17 November 2015 Posted 17 November 2015 Germany v Holland called off due to a mysterious suitcase inside the ground, stadium evacuated.
Guest MattP Posted 17 November 2015 Posted 17 November 2015 Security is really on the ball when someone has wandered in with a suitcase.
Lionator Posted 17 November 2015 Posted 17 November 2015 Assuming that's a safety first decision rather than anything more sinister. Hopefully anyway.
J.Lisemore Posted 17 November 2015 Posted 17 November 2015 Can't fault them for taking drastic action with the events of friday but my first thought was they are probably a little paranoid, ecpecting something to go down
RowlattsFox Posted 17 November 2015 Posted 17 November 2015 Must be pretty awkward for any Muslim going to a game tonight, shouldn't be but will be. Hope it's paranoia.
ScouseFox Posted 17 November 2015 Posted 17 November 2015 Security is really on the ball when someone has wandered in with a suitcase. ive got two suitcases in my house. im out of here.
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