Izzy Posted 1 January 2016 Posted 1 January 2016 Despite his faults, I think Kasper is a key part of our recent success. He shows great maturity and leadership skills and speaks very well when interviewed. Those who would replace him should be careful what they wish for I reckon. Let's also remember his old man is in the background and hopefully imparting all his knowledge and wisdom gained from numerous PL and CL winning sides. That experience alone is invaluable and could really help Kasper and the team during the run in this season. If I were the owners, I'd maybe even bring Peter in to the club in some sort of part time advisory, mental coaching capacity to help us push for a CL place this season - if he was up for it. KS struggles in the shadow of his father - the last thing he needs is his dad at the club. His Dad was 11/2 for the Managers job at one stage after NP was sacked. I don't remember Kasper coming out then and saying the last thing he needs is his Dad at the club. why would he, he would have known there was nothing in it Not sure what that has to do with the price of fish but I do know that he has come out in the media In the last few weeks saying he can't stand being compared to his father all the time and it makes him angry. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3357731/Kasper-Schmeichel-people-think-s-OK-tell-ll-never-good-dad.html Peter Schmeichel applied for the Managers job in the summer. He wouldn't have done that without his sons blessing or if the "last thing he needs is his Dad at the club" http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11712/9911207/leicester-city-want-martin-oneill-talks-over-vacant-managers-job When PS was a recent pundit on Sky MNF he clearly knew all about Leicester and our strengths. He obviously watches lots of our games and talks like he's right behind us and Kasper and wants us to do well and succeed. My original point was that if he's currently not working for another club, maybe we could benefit from his vast experience and knowledge in some capacity as we push for a CL place. That was all.
Tielemans63 Posted 1 January 2016 Posted 1 January 2016 Genuine Leicester legend in my eyes. We've not had too many players play 200 games for the club in recent times. Yes he's got weaknesses but overall he's been an incredible signing. Literally the one thing we can thank Sven for!
Nick Posted 1 January 2016 Posted 1 January 2016 Peter Schmeichel applied for the Managers job in the summer. He wouldn't have done that without his sons blessing or if the "last thing he needs is his Dad at the club" http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11712/9911207/leicester-city-want-martin-oneill-talks-over-vacant-managers-job When PS was a recent pundit on Sky MNF he clearly knew all about Leicester and our strengths. He obviously watches lots of our games and talks like he's right behind us and Kasper and wants us to do well and succeed. My original point was that if he's currently not working for another club, maybe we could benefit from his vast experience and knowledge in some capacity as we push for a CL place. That was all. And that's cool. I have no problem with you disagreeing with me. I just think you're wrong. I'm not sure what his credentials are in terms of coaching or management. If they were any good I guess he'd be applying them somewhere. Like him as a person and as a pundit but wouldn't want him as his sons boss and I don't think Kasper would either. I also have no time for family father and son dynamics at the club after NFP and his daft offspring. I think it's an off the cuff sweeping comment you have made which is cool but I don't see what PS has to offer LCFC right now in any capacity other than being a supportive father to his son.
Izzy Posted 1 January 2016 Posted 1 January 2016 And that's cool. I have no problem with you disagreeing with me. Likewise I just think you're wrong. I'd never have guessed I'm not sure what his credentials are in terms of coaching or management. Me neither, but I wasn't suggesting he should be a coach or Manager. I was suggesting we utilise his experience of being a proven winner in whatever the best capacity is - seeing as he has a vested interest in our success. If they were any good I guess he'd be applying them somewhere. Possibly. Not sure what he's doing now about from punditry. I think he's got a lot to offer the game and guess he wouldn't have applied for the LCFC Manager job unless he thought he had the right credentials. Like him as a person and as a pundit but wouldn't want him as his sons boss and I don't think Kasper would either. I'm not suggesting he should be Kaspers boss. And if Kasper didn't want him at the club advising or helping in anyway, then I'm sure he'd respect that. But he applied for the Managers job, so I assume he would have had Kaspers support. I also have no time for family father and son dynamics at the club after NFP and his daft offspring. Fair enough. The game is littered by examples of where that dynamic hasn't worked. I'm sure there are also examples of where it has. I think it's an off the cuff sweeping comment you have made which is cool but I don't see what PS has to offer LCFC right now in any capacity other than being a supportive father to his son. And if that support alone enables Kasper to play to his full potential and help us gain a top 4 spot, I'll be delighted...
sdb Posted 1 January 2016 Posted 1 January 2016 this isn't a dig at him, more an observation. In fact only an observation - has he put on weight over past couple of months? definitely
The_77 Posted 1 January 2016 Posted 1 January 2016 Anyone who's not satisfied with Kasper this season has got to be impossible to please.
Stadt Posted 1 January 2016 Posted 1 January 2016 Been very good so far this season and if we were to get a significantly better keeper we'd have to spend £10m+ to dislodge one of the leaders of the team.
shailen Posted 2 January 2016 Posted 2 January 2016 You have a short memory if you can't see how good a keeper Kasper is. He is a keeper who will win us points and his distribution is a weapon. He can kick the ball further than any keeper I've seen. I don't understand why people see him as error prone. For a keeper he makes very small number of mistakes and his shot stopping is only bettered by De Gea and Lloris in this league. I'd put him in the top five keepers in the league.
americanfox Posted 2 January 2016 Posted 2 January 2016 You have a short memory if you can't see how good a keeper Kasper is. He is a keeper who will win us points and his distribution is a weapon. He can kick the ball further than any keeper I've seen. I don't understand why people see him as error prone. For a keeper he makes very small number of mistakes and his shot stopping is only bettered by De Gea and Lloris in this league. I'd put him in the top five keepers in the league. His pass completion is like 20% on non-throws (I think those numbers from Squawka have been cited here previously). He can certainly kick it, but being successful in distribution is something that needs to improve.
ImBlue Posted 2 January 2016 Posted 2 January 2016 His pass completion is like 20% on non-throws (I think those numbers from Squawka have been cited here previously). He can certainly kick it, but being successful in distribution is something that needs to improve. Another one, great. You realise his distribution success from kicking is reliant on those winning it up front? A lot of the time headers? Albrighton, Mahrez, Vardy and Okazaki mainly but also Drinkwater and Kante. We seem to allow the opposition to win the initial ball and scrap for seconds as a tactic. The fact is kasper can put the ball on a 50p peice 80% of he time 60 yards away.
Guest CityFan 06 Posted 2 January 2016 Posted 2 January 2016 Overall I feel he's been very good this season. Makes some key saves at times.
shailen Posted 2 January 2016 Posted 2 January 2016 His pass completion is like 20% on non-throws (I think those numbers from Squawka have been cited here previously). He can certainly kick it, but being successful in distribution is something that needs to improve. This is where stats can be misleading. He could easily play a 10 yard kick and get 100% pass completion. But he goes for the more difficult balls and aims to put us straight on the counter. There was a year where Leon Britton had the highest pass completion rate in Europe because he tries 5 yard passes. That's why he doesn't have a higher %, but Kasper has been a huge part of how we counter on teams.
GingerrrFox Posted 14 January 2016 Posted 14 January 2016 Made an absolutely world class save last night to stop Kane and was good shot stopping and in the air. Fantastic. However he needs to be spoken to about his distribution, his kicking over the last 3 games has been woeful. Yesterday he had numerous opportunities to roll the ball out wide, but instead pushed everyone up the field and smashed it straight to their aerially dominant 3 (Dier, Vertonghen, Alderweireld) or worse straight out for a throw in. For some reason he goes through periods of senselessly kicking the ball long all the time. It puts the team under so much pressure as we instantly lose possession and struggle to get a foothold in the game. Mahrez was calling for the ball on the right wing for a possible counter attack at 0-0 and Kasper told him to calm down, took 10 seconds and then smashed it to no one. Mahrez had a little pop at him which is right as it's pointless and detrimental to the team.
foxfanazer Posted 14 January 2016 Posted 14 January 2016 As I've said before he's not perfect but he is capable of producing world class, match winning saves. The way he made himself big for that save last night was unreal. Whether we go on to sign a better all round keeper eventually Kasper has played his part in this transformation of our club
Weller in Tights Posted 14 January 2016 Posted 14 January 2016 I know I'm going to be unpopular for this but here goes. I have said this before and I still think it holds. Shot stopping - he is superb, one of the best in the league. Distribution - sorry but most of the time it's appalling, I lost count of how many times he poorly distributed last night. Commanding the six-yard box (catching crosses etc) - poor. He gives no confidence on corners, so rarely do you see him catch a ball in the Six-yard box. Now you may well argue that Shot Stopping is the most important attribute. Maybe it is, but the others are at least important. Indeed I would argue that commanding the six yard box is just as important as shot stopping. The thing is, add all these factors together and I rate Kasper as an average/good premier league keeper. There are definitely better, eg if you were offered Lloris instead of Kasper, would you take him, I would. Kasper's passion and attitude can't be faulted, but I am sorry (sincerely I am), but if in the summer we could get a goalie like Courtois or Lloris (like them, I know we won't actually get them) although it might seem harsh on Kasper, but I would see it as an improvement in a vital area.
Heart-Shaped Fox Posted 14 January 2016 Posted 14 January 2016 When you think about it, it is indeed rare how many times Kasper comes out to catch the ball from the air from a corner. He prefers to leave it to the defenders. Best keepers like Courtois dominate in the air. Kicking was really off yesterday. Direction was good but kept over egging it. Think it is harder to kick to the wings as he does obviously as it is more likely to go out of play than when you kick it down the middle. And when Leo isn't on the pitch our better aerial options are Mahrez or Fuchs
filbertway Posted 14 January 2016 Posted 14 January 2016 So if we could sign one of the best goalkeepers in the world you'd sign them? His long kick can be a weapon, half of our attacks probably came from his kicks causing their center backs problems. I do think he could work on the balance between going long and playing it short if the option is on. Any keeper would have the same stats though, it's the way we play.
Weller in Tights Posted 14 January 2016 Posted 14 January 2016 So if we could sign one of the best goalkeepers in the world you'd sign them? His long kick can be a weapon, half of our attacks probably came from his kicks causing their center backs problems. I do think he could work on the balance between going long and playing it short if the option is on. Any keeper would have the same stats though, it's the way we play. Fair play understand your argument, although I don't necessarily agree with you.What about the fact he doesn't command the six-yard box? And yes I would love a world class keeper, I appreciate that is difficult to get, but what I am saying is we should be on the lookout for a keeper just as much as a new attacker/midfielder/defender. Kasper is not the Holy Grail. I don't dislike him, he clearly shows passion and commitment, and as I have said, a great shot stopper.
Grewks Posted 14 January 2016 Posted 14 January 2016 The save was crucial, as big a moment as any this season. But lets not pretend it was a result of any 'world class' skill......it was fortunate that it hit the bar.
CharlieCharles Posted 14 January 2016 Posted 14 January 2016 I know I'm going to be unpopular for this but here goes. I have said this before and I still think it holds. Shot stopping - he is superb, one of the best in the league. Distribution - sorry but most of the time it's appalling, I lost count of how many times he poorly distributed last night. Commanding the six-yard box (catching crosses etc) - poor. He gives no confidence on corners, so rarely do you see him catch a ball in the Six-yard box. Now you may well argue that Shot Stopping is the most important attribute. Maybe it is, but the others are at least important. Indeed I would argue that commanding the six yard box is just as important as shot stopping. The thing is, add all these factors together and I rate Kasper as an average/good premier league keeper. There are definitely better, eg if you were offered Lloris instead of Kasper, would you take him, I would. Kasper's passion and attitude can't be faulted, but I am sorry (sincerely I am), but if in the summer we could get a goalie like Courtois or Lloris (like them, I know we won't actually get them) although it might seem harsh on Kasper, but I would see it as an improvement in a vital area. Agreed. I would be happy with a new GK. I like Kasper but you cannot keep players because they have been here a long time and have passion.
Out Foxed Posted 14 January 2016 Posted 14 January 2016 i think the accepted opinion is that being excellent at shot stopping should go without saying for a top quality keeper. it's the other attributes that make you elite level.
filbertway Posted 14 January 2016 Posted 14 January 2016 Fair play understand your argument, although I don't necessarily agree with you. What about the fact he doesn't command the six-yard box? And yes I would love a world class keeper, I appreciate that is difficult to get, but what I am saying is we should be on the lookout for a keeper just as much as a new attacker/midfielder/defender. Kasper is not the Holy Grail. I don't dislike him, he clearly shows passion and commitment, and as I have said, a great shot stopper. Totally agree with that, it's been his one major weakness for me. Not quite sure what has happened, but the confusion in our box from crosses, that we were seeing at the start of the season seems to have disappeared recently. If we could sign a worldie keeper I'd take them as well, I don't know who wouldn't though? It was just the fact you named some of the worlds best keepers that made me laugh haha. Whatever, we should sign a keeper this window. I'd love to get a promising young keeper in as back up who can get used to the team and learn from Schmeichel and Schwarzer. Having Schwarzer on the bench is ridiculous and if Kasper picks up and injury or suspension we'll basically be throwing points away.
shen Posted 14 January 2016 Posted 14 January 2016 Made an absolutely world class save last night to stop Kane and was good shot stopping and in the air. Fantastic. However he needs to be spoken to about his distribution, his kicking over the last 3 games has been woeful. Yesterday he had numerous opportunities to roll the ball out wide, but instead pushed everyone up the field and smashed it straight to their aerially dominant 3 (Dier, Vertonghen, Alderweireld) or worse straight out for a throw in. For some reason he goes through periods of senselessly kicking the ball long all the time. It puts the team under so much pressure as we instantly lose possession and struggle to get a foothold in the game. Mahrez was calling for the ball on the right wing for a possible counter attack at 0-0 and Kasper told him to calm down, took 10 seconds and then smashed it to no one. Mahrez had a little pop at him which is right as it's pointless and detrimental to the team. This is a good point. Maybe he was under instructions, because as we have seen before, all too rarely admittedly, Kasper possesses a good throw. I can't remember exactly which game I watched in December, but it was almost farcical how a long kick from Kasper came straight back to Huth, who opted to play it back to Kasper only for the same process to repeat two or three times. It looked very much like Kasper was instructed to kick it long.
M0901 Posted 14 January 2016 Posted 14 January 2016 Kasper IS good enough Last night proved it His quality and desire goes hand in hand. There aren't many keepers LEICESTER can get that are better than him Love the guy, he's had a brilliant season and made no high-profile errors No need to start chatting about bringing in a new number 1 really.
Fox Ulike Posted 14 January 2016 Posted 14 January 2016 Outside of the big clubs goalies (De Gea/Cech/Hart/Lloris) the only keeper I rate as much as Schmiecal is Jack Butland at Stoke. Kasper has his weaknesses but so does every other keeper. I wouldn’t swap him for any of the other Prem keepers: Mignolet, Howard, Adrian, Hennessey etc - and I don’t think too many of our moaning fans would either if they actually stopped to think about it. Be grateful and remember Ricardo before wishing for a new ‘top keeper’!
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