Chilwell

[Guest]

 Fuchs is only getting older and will decline and Chilwell is getting older and improving. At some point Chilwell becomes the better left back but it's all in his hands.

 

We really need someone getting younger.

[FrankieWorthoYaggedMyWife]

Well we always could do with the money and you can't let someone who is a squad player dictate to you. If we did get £8m for him that's not bad business as he might be the next Mattock or Stearman and not the next Ashley Cole.

 

I think it would be a bad decision for him to leave with only the 30 year old Fuchs in his way to the first team. He could end up at Arsenal or Liverpool and find a much harder path to the first team and a year down the line they spend £25m on a 24 year old left back.

 

If he stays at Leicester he'll get his fair share of first team football this coming season and if he's good enough he could end up as first choice left back this time next year. Fuchs is only getting older and will decline and Chilwell is getting older and improving. At some point Chilwell becomes the better left back but it's all in his hands.

 

depends what he becomes I suppose - could look terrible business if he tears the league apart next year

[Ric Flair]

depends what he becomes I suppose - could look terrible business if he tears the league apart next year

 

I don't think it's up for debate how good he's going to be, I don't see much of a weakness in his game and the PL isn't even any good these days. He'll piss it and be worth £20 million easily.

[Thracian]

depends what he becomes I suppose - could look terrible business if he tears the league apart next year

 

 

 

Rather like golf you don't always pick the right shot. How he develops won't count at all if he doesn't want to be here - which has not been confirmed one way or another but has long seemed questionable to me.    

[Countryfox]

I just don't get it ...   he will surely get game time next season and on top of that Fuchs has hinted he will stay for one more season then he's off to the States.  I've mentioned before that he has never said anything about enjoying being at the club or wanting to stay here and been shot down every time.  Maybe he just doesn't like the area or prefers somewhere else, maybe he doesn't get on with his team mates or the manager ....    or maybe he is just a mercenary little scrote.   Who knows ...

[Sol thewall Bamba]

I'm sorry but unless he's bein offered £30,000 a week somewhere we should be matching most offers. Schlupp was on £18,000 a week in the championship after only playing about 5 games. We shouldn't simply brush this over as no big deal, this lad must stay. £8 million gets you fcuk all these days. We don't need the money.

Yes agreed, but if he doesn't want to be here he doesn't fit with the team ethos, which is what won us the league. 

[Guest Chocolate Teapot]

Been offered £20k a week and turned it down - club are looking for £10m for him.

[Max Power]

Maybe he wants to leave for first team football? He isn't going to displace Fuchs right now but he'd fancy his chances of ousting the terrible Alberto Moreno

[FrankieWorthoYaggedMyWife]

Been offered £20k a week and turned it down - club are looking for £10m for him.

its just bonkers isn't it £20k having never played a league game! 

[TheMightySystem]

Been offered £20k a week and turned it down - club are looking for £10m for him.

If he has turned down £20K a week from us then he can leave for all I care, thats probably more then people his age make in a year and he is getting it in a week.

Shows disrespect to the club who have bought him through well and as soon as we start to give him a chance he demands a big pay rise or he will leave.

Would have thought by bringing in Gray it would show him that we are looking to the future and developing talent, obviously to shortsighted to see that.

I can understand the point with first team football but surely Ranieri will have told him he will be getting plenty next year due to other competitions?

[Dan]

If the rumours are true it says a lot about the kid's personality and typifies the new generation of young footballers who seem to have a sense of entitlement without actually doing anything. Who in their right mind would want to leave right now given the situation that we find ourselves in?!?

Surely signing a new contract and going out on loan for a few seasons to another PL club to gain experience would be more beneficial if a) he doesn't think he's capable of dislodging Fuchs right now, and b) he wants first team football.

If the lad can't see that whilst Fuchs is an incredible footballer, age isn't on his side and at some point in the future we'll require a replacememt which he'll inevitably be if he sticks around then I'm not so sure he's the right person for our club. Should he move on it'd be a great shame and good luck to him if he genuinely feels that such a move would be in his best interests.

 

I was thinking about this and thought I actually fancy him to dislodge Moreno more than I do Fuchs, so surprisingly he could actually be joining a bigger club (albeit poorer team) for first team action, which I'd understand.

 

The amount of money in English football has gone some way to destroying our national team. If they've got something about them one club will always gamble and cave in to their ridiculous demands. I know he isn't English but it was involving an English club, Paul Pogba, demanded silly money as a kid, Man Utd didn't pay it but Juventus did and boom, he's got his big contract before he's ever done anything. Granted this is a bad example as Pogba's actually gone on to be well worth it but I bet there are loads who don't. That Solanke asking for £50k a week at Chelsea, would anyone be surprised if he managed to get it? What motivation does he have then? If he's after that kind of money after doing nothing in the game.

[Thracian]

it all indicates what I'm increasingly starting to believe - that the Academy is more a social service than a genuine pathway to our own first team.

 

There's just no way to accommodate graduates in the team consistently with all the matches being so important and Chilwell might well have been the latest victim. 

 

If you're a youth international at 17/18/19 there's no way you want to play meaningless U21 games or otherwise bruise your backside on a first team subs bench week after week.   

 

In the end the club has to either make time and space for the graduates or the best of them will move on and you might as well not have bothered developing them in the first place. 

 

Meanwhile take a moment to look at ourselves. Virtually every player being touted as a potential signing is from overseas. There's every indication we may sign anything from eight to a dozen people to strengthen our squad and I bet all of them cross the English Channel.

 

Where does that leave any potential graduates?

 

Being truthful there's not much real encouragement for any of them and most have to prove themselves over a season or two before getting the kind of encouragement that even people like Kaebi or Inler got when they arrived here from overseas for all that both did so little to deserve it whenever I saw them on the pitch.

 

Even now - though most have gone quiet - there are plenty don't rate either King or Schlupp despite both having achieved a whole lot more than most of the players in our history.

 

Fans would far sooner tout for an expensive overseas player than anyone from the Academy...even though they may be the same age and they might know very little about them other than their goals/assists record (in a questionable league) and the price they'll cost.

 

Look at all the players we were associated with in January and during the last close season. Yet how many did we sign in the end and how many have shone? Kante, Fuchs, some would say Shinji. That's about it. Three players for all that scouring of continents, all those "understood" approaches and all those wonderful offers.   

 

And not one player genuinely through from our Academy despite working with them for years in many cases and being able to involve them for next to nothing by comparison. As a coach, I'd either be ashamed or I'd be asking why. Especially given the rules have supposedly been changed to encourage the involvement of more Academy players.         

[RowlattsFox]

I find it hilarious that one of younger players could be going to Liverpool because he might have a better chance of first team football

 

As long as we've offered him a 'decent' wage then the club are right not to give into his/agent demands. No matter how talented he may be he as still only played 2 cup games for us so shouldn't be requesting silly money.

[Fox92]

Fuchs is class, best left back I've ever seen here, and that's keeping Chilwell out of the side. If Chilwell just thinks about it - waits like a season or two - and then the left back spot will be his - a probably his for 12 years or so. We're talking about a player with huge potential; a player that could play hundreds of games here.

 

On the other hand, I'm not bothered about any player that doesn't want to be here. They can go, regardless of ability. We need 100% from every player. That applies to every player.

[Thracian]

I find it hilarious that one of younger players could be going to Liverpool because he might have a better chance of first team football

 

As long as we've offered him a 'decent' wage then the club are right not to give into his/agent demands. No matter how talented he may be he as still only played 2 cup games for us so shouldn't be requesting silly money.

 

 

Who says he's requesting anything? We might have offered the quoted figure but he might  already have made his mind up about leaving, who knows? the sooner it's settled for all concerned the better. 

[AKCJ]

He can go if he doesn't want 20k a week.

Knob.

[ozleicester]

Give the kid a break, hes 20 years old and apparently good enough to make a pro career. 

 

If i were him id be wanting to play... to play at the highest level i could, people have a crack at someone taking money to sit on the bench (Logan - Schwarzer) but now are asking a 20 year old to do just that.

 

Ill be sorry to lose a potential quality young player... but good luck to him, make the most of the time and skill youve been lucky enough to get

[TheMightySystem]

it all indicates what I'm increasingly starting to believe - that the Academy is more a social service than a genuine pathway to our own first team.

 

There's just no way to accommodate graduates in the team consistently with all the matches being so important and Chilwell might well have been the latest victim. 

 

If you're a youth international at 17/18/19 there's no way you want to play meaningless U21 games or otherwise bruise your backside on a first team subs bench week after week.   

 

In the end the club has to either make time and space for the graduates or the best of them will move on and you might as well not have bothered developing them in the first place. 

 

Meanwhile take a moment to look at ourselves. Virtually every player being touted as a potential signing is from overseas. There's every indication we may sign anything from eight to a dozen people to strengthen our squad and I bet all of them cross the English Channel.

 

Where does that leave any potential graduates?

 

Being truthful there's not much real encouragement for any of them and most have to prove themselves over a season or two before getting the kind of encouragement that even people like Kaebi or Inler got when they arrived here from overseas for all that both did so little to deserve it whenever I saw them on the pitch.

 

Even now - though most have gone quiet - there are plenty don't rate either King or Schlupp despite both having achieved a whole lot more than most of the players in our history.

 

Fans would far sooner tout for an expensive overseas player than anyone from the Academy...even though they may be the same age and they might know very little about them other than their goals/assists record (in a questionable league) and the price they'll cost.

 

Look at all the players we were associated with in January and during the last close season. Yet how many did we sign in the end and how many have shone? Kante, Fuchs, some would say Shinji. That's about it. Three players for all that scouring of continents, all those "understood" approaches and all those wonderful offers.   

 

And not one player genuinely through from our Academy despite working with them for years in many cases and being able to involve them for next to nothing by comparison. As a coach, I'd either be ashamed or I'd be asking why. Especially given the rules have supposedly been changed to encourage the involvement of more Academy players.         

You only need to look at Man U and Arsenal to see that youth players can be successful when called upon. I wouldn't sell Chilwell in the summer. I would wait and do what Spurs do with their fullbacks and rotate them each game.

What annoys me a bit is in games like the one against Chelsea on Saturday when we have nothing to play for yet we will still go with a full strength team. Why not use these opportunities to try and bleed in some of the younger players like Chilwell and maybe even one or two more like Ndwuku or give Dodoo another run out. Thats what other teams do and means they know where they need to strengthen in summer and where they have good enough back up in the youth teams. Not saying rotate the full team but if we believe in the players ability to step up then we need to show we believe in them otherwise they will question if they are really progressing.

[Dan]

There's no system at all for putting youth players into the team in this country what so ever. The financial stakes are that high that clubs just won't take the risk. Another thing that holds back the national team. I agree with the above I'd actually start Chilwell this weekend, well, if he does have any intention of staying that is.

[Ric Flair]

There's no system at all for putting youth players into the team in this country what so ever. The financial stakes are that high that clubs just won't take the risk. Another thing that holds back the national team. I agree with the above I'd actually start Chilwell this weekend, well, if he does have any intention of staying that is.

 

Maybe so but you look at Arsenal, Man Utd, Spurs, Chelsea, Southampton and Liverpool and all of them have at least a couple of academy players on the bench and involved fairly frequently, we've had Chilwell and that's about it. I know all of the above were in Europe this season so the squad gets stretched more but we are way behind.

[Babylon]

Maybe so but you look at Arsenal, Man Utd, Spurs, Chelsea, Southampton and Liverpool and all of them have at least a couple of academy players on the bench and involved fairly frequently, we've had Chilwell and that's about it. I know all of the above were in Europe this season so the squad gets stretched more but we are way behind.

Because they've had about 375 injuries, not because they want to give the kids a chance (with the exception of Saints)

[Dan]

Maybe so but you look at Arsenal, Man Utd, Spurs, Chelsea, Southampton and Liverpool and all of them have at least a couple of academy players on the bench and involved fairly frequently, we've had Chilwell and that's about it. I know all of the above were in Europe this season so the squad gets stretched more but we are way behind.

 

Fair comment. We're one of the worst for it actually. We've not produced nearly enough.

[filbertway]

If we lost him, I wonder if we'll target Mings at Bournemouth if he's not totally broken.

[Sol thewall Bamba]

Fuchs is class, best left back I've ever seen here, and that's keeping Chilwell out of the side. If Chilwell just thinks about it - waits like a season or two - and then the left back spot will be his - a probably his for 12 years or so. We're talking about a player with huge potential; a player that could play hundreds of games here.

 

On the other hand, I'm not bothered about any player that doesn't want to be here. They can go, regardless of ability. We need 100% from every player. That applies to every player.

Sums it up perfectly for me. 

[Number 6]

Think Fuchs is guaranteed to play CL games for us with experience. For me that means a great opportunity for Chilwell to come in and play the following PL games. If he impresses, then who knows.

Also seen comments from him about the way we play. Modern full backs love bombing forward and whipping crosses in, but that's the easy bit. The defensive side and positioning turn a good full back into a world class one. He'd absolutely learn that defensive side of his game playing in this side.