Tuna Posted 3 October 2016 Posted 3 October 2016 It's situations like this that I look at our owners, who are sensible, respectable, generous and shrewd and am eternally grateful for the way they run our football club. We could have ended up with Vincent Tan, Massimo Chellino, Venkys or these clowns at Swansea. Guidolin is a decent man and deserved better. Swanseas opening fixtures were Burnley away - excellent win, Hull Home - disappointing result but dominated match, Last seasons champions away, not expected to win, Chelsea home, not expected to win, got an excellent draw, Southampton away, narrow defeat to a very good team and then 2 defeats to rampant and in form Man City and Liverpool. And they played very well against Liverpool in the first half. They are only really 2 points off where they would have been expected to be at this point in the season.
The Horse's Mouth Posted 3 October 2016 Posted 3 October 2016 Only Hull is where I expected them to do better, this move is probably to appease their new american contingent.
AKCJ Posted 3 October 2016 Posted 3 October 2016 1 hour ago, Koke said: There was a time when even the top clubs genuinely worried about Swansea away. They were super efficient and played fantastic football. Shame really what has happened to them. Didn't they win 3-0 at the Mestalla?
Dan Posted 3 October 2016 Posted 3 October 2016 I completely forgot about that. Valencia 0-3 Swansea. That just looks wrong on every level. Fair ****ing play
tylesta Posted 4 October 2016 Posted 4 October 2016 23 hours ago, Ted Maul said: Meh, shocking away day. I'd happily swap them for someone like Sheff Wednesday. As for Spurs, they do look good. As much as I dislike them though, I can't help but feel that them winning the league would be good for our title win. Nobody will be able to say that we had no competition, if the team that we beat to it went and won the league the following season over Guardiola's supposedly all-conquering City side, or a Mourinho-led United. We beat arsenal to the title
SystonFox Posted 4 October 2016 Posted 4 October 2016 23 minutes ago, tylesta said: We beat arsenal to the title I know right. By ten fvcking points too. @Ted Maul you've had a mare son
Dan Posted 4 October 2016 Posted 4 October 2016 3 hours ago, tylesta said: We beat arsenal to the title We were out of Arsenal's reach before we were out of Spurs'.
erlee Posted 5 October 2016 Posted 5 October 2016 the moment we paid our (average) players >100K ..trouble starts
Ted Maul Posted 5 October 2016 Posted 5 October 2016 10 hours ago, SystonFox said: I know right. By ten fvcking points too. @Ted Maul you've had a mare son they finished second, but they were never in a title race. It kind of backs up my point though- if both Arsenal and Spurs do well (as they look like they are going to), it will get rid of all the nonsense that every other team was awful last year.
SystonFox Posted 5 October 2016 Posted 5 October 2016 5 hours ago, Ted Maul said: they finished second, but they were never in a title race. It kind of backs up my point though- if both Arsenal and Spurs do well (as they look like they are going to), it will get rid of all the nonsense that every other team was awful last year. nobody was in the title race. bar us. literally never were we bothered after we went top
filbertway Posted 5 October 2016 Posted 5 October 2016 12 minutes ago, SystonFox said: nobody was in the title race. bar us. literally never were we bothered after we went top You wouldn't have thought so with the mass hysteria and panic on here between March and May.
Ted Maul Posted 5 October 2016 Posted 5 October 2016 47 minutes ago, SystonFox said: nobody was in the title race. bar us. literally never were we bothered after we went top In hindsight, yeah. At the time though, I certainly felt the nerves Spurs' form created. Whether the players did or not is a different story. Maybe the nerves were maximised by knowing that it would be our only chance for the forseeable future, possibly ever.
SystonFox Posted 5 October 2016 Posted 5 October 2016 It was all a load of London media bollocks. We ruined Spurs
Wymsey Posted 5 October 2016 Posted 5 October 2016 Can't West Ham and Spurs unite into one club, both have media absolutely adoring them and con others for their own needs.
Koke Posted 5 October 2016 Posted 5 October 2016 After we beat Stoke 3-0 in January we never looked back. Spurs to their credit actually went on a pretty good run but we were truly phenomenal. We never gave them a sniff. We destroyed their soul. The consecutive 1-0 winning streak we went on sent Spurs fans s into an utter meltdown. Arsenal were never in it. They had a chance to put pressure on us after they beat us at their place but in a typical Arsenal fashion they lost to the United kids a week later. Same weekend we beat Norwich 1-0 with Ulloa last minute goal. That weekend summed up both clubs. We had an elite mentality. They had Sunday League mentality.
Dan Posted 5 October 2016 Posted 5 October 2016 15 hours ago, Ted Maul said: they finished second, but they were never in a title race. It kind of backs up my point though- if both Arsenal and Spurs do well (as they look like they are going to), it will get rid of all the nonsense that every other team was awful last year. While I do think the others under-achieved, it is quite funny the way some people genuinely believe that every other side decided to turn to shit for a year only, as if they've been ripping it up the few years beforehand.
Fox92 Posted 6 October 2016 Posted 6 October 2016 14 hours ago, Wymeswold fox said: Can't West Ham and Spurs unite into one club, both have media absolutely adoring them and con others for their own needs. The media love us. They literally wanted us to win the league last season, in fact one headline read "if you don't want Leicester to win the league then you probably support Spurs".
Tuna Posted 6 October 2016 Posted 6 October 2016 18 minutes ago, Fox92 said: The media love us. They literally wanted us to win the league last season, in fact one headline read "if you don't want Leicester to win the league then you probably support Spurs". The BBC I think were behind us all the way excluding the moronic experts such as Mills, Waddle and Lawro, particularly the likes of Chappers on five live, but the printed press were essentially going 'well done, now let the big boys take over' whilst patting us on the head. Most of them were sniping and sneering until it seemed we were going to do it.
Vacamion Posted 6 October 2016 Posted 6 October 2016 29 minutes ago, Tuna said: The BBC I think were behind us all the way excluding the moronic experts such as Mills, Waddle and Lawro, particularly the likes of Chappers on five live, but the printed press were essentially going 'well done, now let the big boys take over' whilst patting us on the head. Most of them were sniping and sneering until it seemed we were going to do it. Souness on Sky and in his column in the Sunday Times appeared to be rooting for a "proper club" to win and repeatedly predicted that Leicester would bottle it at the end of the season. He is clueless, though....
Koke Posted 6 October 2016 Posted 6 October 2016 4 hours ago, Vacamion said: Souness on Sky and in his column in the Sunday Times appeared to be rooting for a "proper club" to win and repeatedly predicted that Leicester would bottle it at the end of the season. He is clueless, though.... Souness was rooting against us all the way. He hated our style of play and practically thought we were anti football - and any moral person should want Tottenham to win the league. I'm glad we are hated by an elitist snob Souness though. Absolute moron he is. He said he liked Alli having a bit of bite after he punched Yacob against WBA but went on a tirade against Chelsea when they surrounded the ref against PSG under Jose couple of years ago. I do laugh at him wanting a proper club to win it and simultaneously wanting Tottenham to win it. It's contradictory.
Shelf Side Spurs Posted 7 October 2016 Posted 7 October 2016 19 hours ago, Koke said: Souness was rooting against us all the way. He hated our style of play and practically thought we were anti football - and any moral person should want Tottenham to win the league. I'm glad we are hated by an elitist snob Souness though. Absolute moron he is. He said he liked Alli having a bit of bite after he punched Yacob against WBA but went on a tirade against Chelsea when they surrounded the ref against PSG under Jose couple of years ago. I do laugh at him wanting a proper club to win it and simultaneously wanting Tottenham to win it. It's contradictory. I agree with you and others concerning Souness being an arrogant objectionable pundit and think that your title last season was well deserved, but why do you not consider Tottenham a 'proper' club?
trabuch Posted 7 October 2016 Posted 7 October 2016 I don't think Sky ever wanted us to win it. Not good for sales. But every football loving friend of mine throughout the divisions (even Spurs fan eventually), plus several overseas seemed genuinely delighted. Particularly Norwich and Sheff Weds season ticket holders. They couldn't get enough of it.
Al-aLondon-Foxile Posted 7 October 2016 Posted 7 October 2016 33 minutes ago, Shelf Side Spurs said: I agree with you and others concerning Souness being an arrogant objectionable pundit and think that your title last season was well deserved, but why do you not consider Tottenham a 'proper' club? I don't understand that either, but some people take spurs and their fans to be idiots, represented by idiots on internet forums and thus not worthy. Some folk on here hate the London media bias towards London teams, which i can appreciate, but that ain't your fault. We smashed it last season, and if it can't be us again this season then i'd be very happy for it to be spurs, they're a proper club (in my opinion)
Koke Posted 9 October 2016 Posted 9 October 2016 Just been watching Arsene Wenger interviews in light of his 20 year anniversary. This one with NBCSN was very good. We can say what we want about Arsenal and Arsenal fans but Wenger is an intelligent fascinating man. I really like him and I have tremendous respect for him. I could listen to him all day. The clarity of thought and opinions are beautiful. In an era of cynicism in football Wenger represents the naivety and romance of why we love this game.
Fox92 Posted 9 October 2016 Posted 9 October 2016 He's revolutionary. He really did change English football. I heard Keown say the other day that when Wenger turned up first day to training he said "this is not a training ground, there are no facilities here" Arsenal were always my favourite side to watch, especially that 1998-2005 period. Bergkamp, Henry, Pires, Vieira, Overmars... they could counter within a blink of an eye. I can't see anybody else guiding a team unbeaten through a full PL season.
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