sdb Posted 10 August 2016 Share Posted 10 August 2016 I thought Williams showed real signs of decline last season. I'm sure he'll pick up a bit in a new team but he's short term really. That said, if they get Kone, they've gone from being the most soft centred team in the league to having a very solid foundation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Prussian Posted 10 August 2016 Share Posted 10 August 2016 1 hour ago, Donut said: Stones is 22, Williams is what, 31, 32? Stones at his full potential will be better than Ashley Williams, and hes 10 years younger. I think Man City will be happy with the deal theyve done. Everton fans are happy with the cash but it needs to be invested well. £30 million on Bolasie isnt good investment. Thing is, with all that money chucked around and the hope for Stones becoming the next Rio Ferdinand or John Terry (sauf the scandals), it could take the lad ten years to fulfill his true potential. He might as well become a very pricey flop. In that period, Manchester City could crash out in a handful of European competitions again and Everton be magically making it to the Europa League group stages - with a 34-, 35-year old Ashley Williams. You never know. Stranger things have happened. Ask Wesley Morgan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuna Posted 10 August 2016 Share Posted 10 August 2016 Dyche is on a roll today http://www.90min.com/posts/3595648-burnley-boss-sean-dyche-claims-he-d-be-branded-a-dinosaur-for-adopting-conte-s-chelsea-methods?team=Burnley&ref=twitter&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=feed Well balanced man is Sean...chips on both shoulders !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merging Cultures Posted 10 August 2016 Share Posted 10 August 2016 5 minutes ago, Tuna said: Dyche is on a roll today http://www.90min.com/posts/3595648-burnley-boss-sean-dyche-claims-he-d-be-branded-a-dinosaur-for-adopting-conte-s-chelsea-methods?team=Burnley&ref=twitter&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=feed Well balanced man is Sean...chips on both shoulders !!! What annoys me most about that article is the poll at the end. Who is the most important signing for Man U this season? There isn't an option for who cares? They are talking about Conte and Dyche and they then go with a Man U rubbish poll. I really am over Zlatan and Pogba already. It's so boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammie82uk Posted 10 August 2016 Share Posted 10 August 2016 8 minutes ago, Tuna said: Dyche is on a roll today http://www.90min.com/posts/3595648-burnley-boss-sean-dyche-claims-he-d-be-branded-a-dinosaur-for-adopting-conte-s-chelsea-methods?team=Burnley&ref=twitter&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=feed Well balanced man is Sean...chips on both shoulders !!! whats with the talking in 3rd person Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 10 August 2016 Share Posted 10 August 2016 2 hours ago, Finnegan said: Nobody gave them a chance of promotion? They signed Barton and a ten million pound striker... for the championship. Give over. I didn't think he'd repeat what he did. Burnley lost two key players in Shackell and Ings. Fair play Gray cost £7mill (or whatever it is) but that doesn't guarantee abything. Derby sent more, Middlesbrough spent big, Hull's squad was probably to best in the division... You might not like Dyche or what he says (neither do I) but he's done a remarkable job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnegan Posted 10 August 2016 Share Posted 10 August 2016 2 minutes ago, Fox92 said: I didn't think he'd repeat what he did. Burnley lost two key players in Shackell and Ings. Fair play Gray cost £7mill (or whatever it is) but that doesn't guarantee abything. Derby sent more, Middlesbrough spent big, Hull's squad was probably to best in the division... You might not like Dyche or what he says (neither do I) but he's done a remarkable job. No, he hasn't. He did very poorly last (Prem) season and got relegated with little fight. He wasted money on poor players, paying more for them than his rivals spent on better prospects. He's an okay manager in the Championship but that's about it. He's intensely arrogant in a way that makes Pearson look humble, he has the bravado of Mourinho but with less charm and a lot less talent to back it up. Jose is an example of a manager I dislike (more than Dyche, for what it's worth) but I can happily admit is brilliant. Dyche is below par and has comfortably hit the pinnacle of his career. He'll get no better than he is now and end up going the way of Sherwood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 10 August 2016 Share Posted 10 August 2016 2 minutes ago, Finnegan said: No, he hasn't. He did very poorly last (Prem) season and got relegated with little fight. He wasted money on poor players, paying more for them than his rivals spent on better prospects. He's an okay manager in the Championship but that's about it. He's intensely arrogant in a way that makes Pearson look humble, he has the bravado of Mourinho but with less charm and a lot less talent to back it up. Jose is an example of a manager I dislike (more than Dyche, for what it's worth) but I can happily admit is brilliant. Dyche is below par and has comfortably hit the pinnacle of his career. He'll get no better than he is now and end up going the way of Sherwood. I don't disagree with the base of that but to win promotion with Burnley in 13/14 was a brilliant achievement. edit: and I'll think they'll struggle again this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UPinCarolina Posted 10 August 2016 Share Posted 10 August 2016 Burnley just couldn't feckin score a goal. At all. Their defense wasn't too awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuna Posted 10 August 2016 Share Posted 10 August 2016 Looks like we scrambled Arsene's brain! https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/aug/10/arsenal-arsene-wenger-leicester-regret-guilt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 10 August 2016 Share Posted 10 August 2016 37 minutes ago, Fox92 said: I didn't think he'd repeat what he did. Burnley lost two key players in Shackell and Ings. Fair play Gray cost £7mill (or whatever it is) but that doesn't guarantee abything. Derby sent more, Middlesbrough spent big, Hull's squad was probably to best in the division... You might not like Dyche or what he says (neither do I) but he's done a remarkable job. I don't understand his gripes at the moment, though. He has received tons of credit and praise for his job at Burnley. I've not seen one journalist, pundit, presenter criticise him. Jeff Stelling even said he should keep his job even if Burnley went down with a couple of points two years ago. He was apparently perfect for us 12 months ago according to a couple of journalists despite their limp relegation. He repeats the same old mantra every season no matter the division they are in and it's boring. Why is he so bitter? He's got a job with little to no pressure and the press backing him all the way. They'll be on Ranieri's case before Dyche's this season, that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surrifox Posted 11 August 2016 Share Posted 11 August 2016 Mirror report that Everton to pay £25 million for Bolasie . Pardew did well keeping his face straight during the negotiations if it's true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 11 August 2016 Share Posted 11 August 2016 12 hours ago, Mee-9 said: Steve Walsh working wonders spending 12m on Williams... With williams all I ever see is Mahrez running rings around him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sylofox Posted 11 August 2016 Share Posted 11 August 2016 12 hours ago, irishfoxkev said: Standard of journalism is a joke ....below two clips from reported Sean Dyche comments first from BBC second from Mail Online Dyche thinks foreign coaches and their ideas are deemed more "snazzy" and shown more deference by "the populace". "Two geniuses, one adding pizza and one taking it away," said the 45-year-old. "I saw (Manchester City midfielder Samir) Nasri talking about the diet that Pep has brought in. He's stopped pizza, he's a genius already in my view. "The year before, Claudio Ranieri was adding pizza at Leicester. I'm being flippant but I'm being serious as well. It's true, that is the misperception. "Nasri was talking about how this new diet was amazing, saying we don't eat junk food. We've been doing that since I got here. I did it at Watford, so do other English managers." and then this The pre-season noise about dieting has also tickled Dyche, keen to stress he was not denouncing the ability of individuals. 'I saw [Gael] Clichy talking about the diet that Pep Guardiola has brought in. He's stopped pizza. Last year Ranieri was adding pizza. Two geniuses, one adding pizza one taking it away.' Was it Samir (Nasri) or (Gael) Clichy or both that made identical remarks to Dyche about Pep's no pizza diet .. Maybe they are all pre programmed robots at Man City taking the place of humans I don't believe for one minute either comment was from Dyche. Not one reference to money so it's all journo shite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surrifox Posted 11 August 2016 Share Posted 11 August 2016 14 minutes ago, sylofox said: I don't believe for one minute either comment was from Dyche. Not one reference to money so it's all journo shite Exactly he would be complaining that Burnley couldn't afford proper toppings and were buying their Pizza from Iceland (not the country) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sylofox Posted 11 August 2016 Share Posted 11 August 2016 1 minute ago, surrifox said: Exactly he would be complaining that Burnley couldn't afford proper toppings and were buying their Pizza from Iceland (not the country) you should have said farm foods. An over active mod will close this now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPeakFox Posted 11 August 2016 Share Posted 11 August 2016 Still twatting on and on about Dyche then? Righto... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col city fan Posted 11 August 2016 Share Posted 11 August 2016 I simply think Dyche tries his damned hardest to deflect any blame from himself or his players. To keep banging on about money that the other clubs have and the money Burnley doesn't have (by comparison) is essentially him saying that if he fails in the Prem, it's hardly surprising. The problem I have with him is he says the same thing over and over again such that the argument (which IS probably valid) becomes boring and people switch off. He ends up sounding bitter because of it. I doubt he is bitter, but he sounds it. Time to bang a different drum Dyche...We've heard it countless times. Bit like me with our Esteban.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CityFan 06 Posted 11 August 2016 Share Posted 11 August 2016 Thought this for a while. Classy striker, Premier League material for sure IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purpleronnie Posted 11 August 2016 Share Posted 11 August 2016 Just when you thought west hams new ground couldn't get worse, they have announcements for people to sit throughout the game, and now an email from the club to supporters stating if they stand they could have their season tickets removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 11 August 2016 Share Posted 11 August 2016 6 minutes ago, purpleronnie said: Just when you thought west hams new ground couldn't get worse, they have announcements for people to sit throughout the game, and now an email from the club to supporters stating if they stand they could have their season tickets removed. I believe West Ham fans are objecting this and it's the idea of Brady who they want out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CityFan 06 Posted 11 August 2016 Share Posted 11 August 2016 3 minutes ago, purpleronnie said: Just when you thought west hams new ground couldn't get worse, they have announcements for people to sit throughout the game, and now an email from the club to supporters stating if they stand they could have their season tickets removed. This did make me think when they moved to the new stadium. At Upton Park, they had a stand in there which was all standing, every time they scored at that end the fans were superb. But, due to a complete stadium move, it's easier to get fans to sit down. I'm sure Leicester are about one of the only clubs in the PL to have at least 3-4 standing sections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted 11 August 2016 Share Posted 11 August 2016 2 hours ago, LeiFosse 06 said: Thought this for a while. Classy striker, Premier League material for sure IMO. Saw him in their friendly against Sociedad, he's still very raw. Poor first touch and offers little in build up play. Definitely has the potential to be Vardy level though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Prussian Posted 11 August 2016 Share Posted 11 August 2016 Shkodran Mustafi's transfer from Valencia to Arsenal is in the finishing stages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevosevic Posted 11 August 2016 Share Posted 11 August 2016 2 hours ago, MC Prussian said: Shkodran Mustafi's transfer from Valencia to Arsenal is in the finishing stages. A shame they've got a new CB in before we play them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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