Corky Posted 24 September 2016 Share Posted 24 September 2016 He'll be out soon, it seems like they are dominating games without scoring but results matter and they are struggling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smudger63 Posted 24 September 2016 Share Posted 24 September 2016 He is trying to play 4-4-2 with a group of players that have been set up to play 4-3-3 for the last few seasons, and it`s not working. The players he has are not suited to play the way he wants, it will take him time, probably another couple of transfer windows, to assemble a squad that is capable of playing the way he wants them too. Whether he gets the time is very debatable, probably not! Plus he doesn`t have Steve Walsh with him, to pluck a Mahrez and such like, out of no where. He also doesn`t have Shaky with him to help calm the waters either. Personally i was surprised he didn`t take Liam Moore to Derby, who seems to have settled quite nicely at Reading. Although Moore had not been anywhere his best in the last couple of season, he knew of the potential Moore has, and to be quite frank, i would make a better centre half than Richard Keogh, who is his captain, even though i`m fat and fifty odd! If they give him time, i think he will probably turn them round, and maybe next season or the season after, have them challenging again, but time is in short supply in football, especially within championship clubs that can smell the money that`s awash in the premier league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaelicFox Posted 24 September 2016 Share Posted 24 September 2016 This all looks familiar with NP he will eventually work out 4-3-3 is the way with this squad they will go on a huge run get in play-offs and get promoted , that or he will be anus hunting in thialand with his son this Christmas after he gets sacked for sticking to 4-4-2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard99 Posted 24 September 2016 Share Posted 24 September 2016 He's nothing without Shakespeare. I reckon shakey is the real deal, if he leaves us then the only way is down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterborofox Posted 24 September 2016 Share Posted 24 September 2016 Just listened to the Np post match. Sol Bamba training with Derby too now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuna Posted 24 September 2016 Share Posted 24 September 2016 The Derby forum is awash with threads demanding Nigel's sacking. It's ok saying he needs 3 transfer windows to build a team capable of challenging but Derby were already a top 6 side when he came in and this won't have gone unnoticed by the Derby board. Nigel has been given money to spend, Vydra and Anya were not good signings IMO, Vydra in particular has been doggo for 3 or 4 years and Anya soon got displaced when Watford got promoted. Even James Wilson failed to impress whilst at Brighton last season. The fans seemed mixed on Martin's departure as well. Not sure what the Derby board are thinking but when the fans are giving up, it's only going to end one way. I just feel sorry for him as he's better than what this Derby team is showing him at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard99 Posted 24 September 2016 Share Posted 24 September 2016 A sign of a top manager is someone who can do it at a number of clubs. Look at Eddie howe, couldn't do it at Burnley. Some managers are just suited to one club. Pearson was also hardly a massive success at Hull. From an outsider looking in it looks as though they have spent too much time working on the defensive side of things. Most of there games finish 1-0 either way or mostly always under 2.5 goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamafox Posted 24 September 2016 Share Posted 24 September 2016 1 hour ago, peterborofox said: Just listened to the Np post match. Sol Bamba training with Derby too now I find that rather odd considering Pearson wasn't keen on playing him when he was here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 25 September 2016 Share Posted 25 September 2016 I wouldn't be shocked if he gets sacked. Losing at home to Blackburn is a disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymsey Posted 25 September 2016 Share Posted 25 September 2016 Bradley Johnson is not worth £600,000 currently let alone 6 million. Tom Ince is not living up to to what many had hoped, average as you can get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcfcsnow Posted 25 September 2016 Share Posted 25 September 2016 10 hours ago, peterborofox said: Just listened to the Np post match. Sol Bamba training with Derby too now That makes no sense whatsoever, he is the opposite of what Pearson wants in a defender and couldn't wait to get rid of him here. Has he lost the plot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 25 September 2016 Share Posted 25 September 2016 Just thinking, has there been another occasion where a man left his previous job after winning 7 in 9 then starting his next one winning 1 in 9, at a lower level too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donut Posted 25 September 2016 Share Posted 25 September 2016 2 minutes ago, Corky said: Just thinking, has there been another occasion where a man left his previous job after winning 7 in 9 then starting his next one winning 1 in 9, at a lower level too? Probably someone like Henning Berg who pretty much ruined Blackburn in his short spell there? I think Pearson probable wishes he could just rewind back to the beginning of the season. Or rewind full stop to a time when he wasnt Derby manager because his reputaiton and credibility is starting to take a severe beating. Not much good saying they are playing ok in games and losing. Its a results business and they were getting results without him. Now they arent. I thought there were signs there might be a mini recovery, a goal and decent point vs Bristol City and then a half respectable loss to Liverpool but the Blackburn result has put them right back to square one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan lcfc Posted 25 September 2016 Share Posted 25 September 2016 In the great escape season, he spent most of the season saying we were playing ok, just not getting results, perhaps he needs his ostrich moment now, seemed to work for us :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brockmyster Posted 25 September 2016 Share Posted 25 September 2016 9 hours ago, Wymeswold fox said: Bradley Johnson is not worth £600,000 currently let alone 6 million. Tom Ince is not living up to to what many had hoped, average as you can get. Ince has always been turd in my opinion, he had one good year at blackpool when everything clicked but even then it wasn't too difficult to pick up goals against Barnsley or Doncaster back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thracian Posted 25 September 2016 Share Posted 25 September 2016 Pearson's limited. There's good and bad to the bloke but I've never seen him as a fluid thinker - a bloke who can analyse and react to a situation and instantly come up with the right answers. More a bloke who sometimes gets there in the end and that's high risk in what is often a "need-it-now" business Brilliant coaches don't have a system in mind and then collect the players to compliment that system. Brilliant coaches look at the players they've got and then decide the best approach to compliment the ability available and the strengths/weaknesses of the opposition in relation to your own capabilities. If Pearson had a top six side all he really needed to do was to look at that team and its system, decide how best it could be instantly improved in terms of individual/collective performance (more goals/fewer conceded or preferably both) and simply get on with it. You could see Pearson's limitations by the time it took him to make changes when things were going wrong in Leicester games - and the limitations of those changes on many occasions. Even his utilising 3-5-2 took so much time it's a wonder he got there. And then there were his off-field indiscretions. So many of his periphery problems were self-inflicted. Bad decisions seemingly connected to an inability to compromise his ego/instincts, for the better end. In some ways I identify with that but it's the sort of own-goal stupidity you walk into as a teen and twenty rather than a grown man - unless you're as established as the likes of Sir Alex Ferguson. Pearson never was and slipped almost as soon as the golden pedestal was placed in front of him. Pearson's hard, I don't doubt. But Ferguson's hard and canny. There's a world of difference and a whole lot of managerial silverware to emphasise the point. I still wish Pearson success because he, with others, paved the way for our current adventure and I'm greatful for that. But I'm reminded of one of my "thoughts for the day" where Pearson's concerned. "Thinking you're always right is a mistake in itself." And Pearson was wrong a whole lot of times...on and off the field and it seems like the trend's continuing for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koke Posted 25 September 2016 Share Posted 25 September 2016 He's let himself go a bit as well. He's gained some weight and he hasn't shaved in a while. Looks like the stress is getting to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 25 September 2016 Share Posted 25 September 2016 Wrong kind of project for him, going in there when their expectations are so high, they've spent a lot of money for that league and he doesn't know the players. He needs to find a blank canvas club that will actually give him some time to build similar to how he did here. Funny seeing the rams fume though, cheers NFP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donut Posted 25 September 2016 Share Posted 25 September 2016 22 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said: Wrong kind of project for him, going in there when their expectations are so high, they've spent a lot of money for that league and he doesn't know the players. He needs to find a blank canvas club that will actually give him some time to build similar to how he did here. Funny seeing the rams fume though, cheers NFP Dont really get this train of thought. The expectations were high because the club he took over, at that level, were good. Are you suggesting he should have taken over someone more rubbish with no decent players to manage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 25 September 2016 Share Posted 25 September 2016 Just now, Donut said: Are you suggesting he should have taken over someone more rubbish with no decent players to manage? His style is to build steadily over a few seasons, laying a decent foundation with players he knows. He can't do that when he's inheriting an expensive squad with little team spirit, and the expectation is promotion in 9 months or he's out the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donut Posted 25 September 2016 Share Posted 25 September 2016 1 minute ago, Sol thewall Bamba said: His style is to build steadily over a few seasons, laying a decent foundation with players he knows. He can't do that when he's inheriting an expensive squad with little team spirit, and the expectation is promotion in 9 months or he's out the door. But the "expensive squad with no team spirit" were close to getting promoted, and miles better before he took them over. This is the part i dont get.....why it would be harder to take over a team thats a good team than one up shitcreek where he has to spend ages slowly building? Hes basically ballsed up unfortunately. Its his fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 25 September 2016 Share Posted 25 September 2016 I can't imagine Powell having the tactical knowledge at all compared to Shakespeare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard99 Posted 25 September 2016 Share Posted 25 September 2016 I can see them winning at Cardiff on Tuesday though. My prediction is a tactical change to catch opposition off guard and a 2-0 win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countryfox Posted 26 September 2016 Share Posted 26 September 2016 Good old Nige ... I love him ! Was a big part of what happened here and now he's dragging my least favourite team down to the arse end ofthe Championship. What a star !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKCJ Posted 26 September 2016 Share Posted 26 September 2016 Derby have been top 8 for what feels like years but have only once been close to promotion (Zamora last minute winner ) Its clear that something needed to change there and it's clear (to Leicester fans at least) that he knows what he's doing in terms of restarting a squad. Results need to improve, there is no doubt of that. You can't say that they're playing well when they're leaking goals and are unable to score. The squad is underperforming but the same squad has proven that it's not good enough for promotion, which is the club's aim. Time is what Pearson needs because he will get there. But will he get it? I highly doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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