Super_horns Posted 18 December 2016 Posted 18 December 2016 TBF Michael Owen and Steve Redgrave naming 2 have won this in the past without having a great personality.
promised land Posted 18 December 2016 Posted 18 December 2016 10 minutes ago, GaelicFox said: not sure it's an elitist sport , there are hundreds of thousands of ordinary people who do equestrian sports Sport should be something kids can watch and be inspired by on tv, then go out into the garden, street or field and recreate with their mates. How many families have a nag in their garden and a load of painted fences? It is a sport for the privileged, like F1,Motorsport and sailing, fair play to him for what he did but it's not something every child can do like football, rugby, running, swimming etc.
Izzy Posted 18 December 2016 Posted 18 December 2016 25 minutes ago, Sir Shep said: Trophy was in Miami already then!! I'm guessing in was a replica - just in case.
Ashley Posted 18 December 2016 Author Posted 18 December 2016 1 hour ago, Donut said: Why cant he win it? Because Andy Murray has had a better year. It's a public vote and worth was worth a shout you boring man.
Donut Posted 18 December 2016 Posted 18 December 2016 Just now, Ashley said: It's a public vote and worth was worth a shout you boring man. And Andy Murray did have a better year and did win. Should we give awards to people who arent the best, to not be boring? or vote for people just to be "different"????
Sir Shep Posted 18 December 2016 Posted 18 December 2016 I'm not displeased Murray won it, he is a great champion, I liked the Kenny's as they've come from humble backgrounds and achieved greatness, Vardy too, not really bothered about privileged sports types who can afford to achieve their dreams without sacrificing as much but still they've worked just as hard, or at least their horse has!
Nalis Posted 18 December 2016 Posted 18 December 2016 Ok fair enough, didnt know about the injuries re : Nick Skelton @Webbo @GaelicFox
jayfox26 Posted 18 December 2016 Posted 18 December 2016 Again I'm biased as I don't like tennis and I can't stand Andy Murray. Yes he's extremely talented and has had a great year (nothing new as he's one of the top tennis players in the world and has been for years) but Vardy has had an incredible year that no player from his background will ever replicate. Great that we won team of the year and that Claudio won manager of the year but Murray can go **** himself the miserable Scottish ****!
HighPeakFox Posted 18 December 2016 Posted 18 December 2016 1 minute ago, jayfox26 said: Again I'm biased as I don't like tennis and I can't stand Andy Murray. Yes he's extremely talented and has had a great year (nothing new as he's one of the top tennis players in the world and has been for years) but Vardy has had an incredible year that no player from his background will ever replicate. Great that we won team of the year and that Claudio won manager of the year but Murray can go **** himself the miserable Scottish ****! Yeah, our boys weren't in the least bit miserable were they?
HKFox Posted 18 December 2016 Posted 18 December 2016 Finished 9th overall apparently. Felt he would be in top 2-3. Still, huge night for the team and claudio.
Izzy Posted 18 December 2016 Posted 18 December 2016 Not sure if our lads were surprised, nervous, hungover or just tired of all the adulation, but they looked like a right bunch of moody, miserable old sods. Not sure what I expected, but the odd smile between them wouldn't have cost much.
AyewJoking Posted 18 December 2016 Posted 18 December 2016 i dont think the club give them a bonus for winning sports team of the year.
Carl the Llama Posted 18 December 2016 Posted 18 December 2016 Definitely deserved by Murray that one - giving it to Vards would have undermined the team aspect to our achievement and Murray winning the Olympics, Wimbledon, and becoming world number 1 is a huge individual achievement.
purpleronnie Posted 18 December 2016 Posted 18 December 2016 People actually think Vardy should've won it over Andy Murray.
fox in the sox Posted 18 December 2016 Posted 18 December 2016 1 hour ago, Master Fox said: I'd never heard of Skelton or the dude who came second. Thought it was some kind of joke. Some fat old bloke getting an award for sport. The Skeltons are a famous showjumping/horse racing family. Where have you been?
Master Fox Posted 18 December 2016 Posted 18 December 2016 3 minutes ago, fox in the sox said: The Skeltons are a famous showjumping/horse racing family. Where have you been? In another country. Nobody cares about showjumping outside of toff English society.
fox in the sox Posted 18 December 2016 Posted 18 December 2016 2 minutes ago, Master Fox said: In another country. Nobody cares about showjumping outside of toff English society. I love showjumping and don't think I'm a 'toff'! I feel for people like you who follow football but have no interest in so many other great sports that are available to view.
Guest Mickyblueeyes Posted 18 December 2016 Posted 18 December 2016 As a Leicester fan of course I was backing Vardy to win it. However, last year was truly a team effort and when I say team I mean the whole package. Be it, the players, manager, coaching staff, analysts, sports science guys and so on. Winning the the team of the year was truly deserved. The main award for Vardy may not have been as fitting as his achievement (though great as it was for him individually) in the grand scheme of things may not have been on par with the other individuals he was competing with. Don't get me wrong, individually, his story is great but finishing second top scorer in the premiership and getting in the England squad may not warrant the SPOTY award when looked at individually. Plus, I would prefer there to be no "I" in last year given what they did together. Great at night of awards for the team. I was truly choked up when they announced team of the year...never thought I'd see the day!
Kitchandro Posted 18 December 2016 Posted 18 December 2016 42 minutes ago, purpleronnie said: People actually think Vardy should've won it over Andy Murray. Andy Murray hasn't done anything out of the ordinary really. Someone who's had all the backing since he was a youngster and they realised his potential, and he's won tennis tournaments and become world number one. Great achievement but it's not unheard of. It's a pretty boring story compared to Vardy's, as they all are tbf. That showjumper getting 3rd was a real joke though, and I can't help thinking olympians are favoured by the non-sport-following public who suddenly pay attention to the games every 4 years as if it's more important than other sporting occasions.
Kitchandro Posted 18 December 2016 Posted 18 December 2016 5 minutes ago, fox in the sox said: I love showjumping and don't think I'm a 'toff'! I feel for people like you who follow football but have no interest in so many other great sports that are available to view. It's not really a sport though is it? Let alone an exciting one. Only toffs can really compete in it so it's not going to capture the imagination of the public, that's besides the fact it's extremely boring. People do like other sports but there's a good reason why showjumping isn't very popular and there's a good reason why football is by far the most popular.
fuchsntf Posted 18 December 2016 Posted 18 December 2016 2 hours ago, Master Fox said: Iggf'd never heard of Skelton or atthe dude who came second. Thought it was some kind of joke. Some fat old bloke getting an award for sport. So not a sports fan, only a football fan then.. ??? Skelton deserved the recognition, a good history and story of his sporting achievements, injury and recovery. I love horse riding, but to be honest I am no close follower of equestrian sports , but this man represented his Chosen sport, to the highest level. Murray, I dont or wont discredit his really brilliant achievements, but this year, imo others should of been recognised. 3 times in a row, after other brilliant successes, too much, but not Murrays fault. Vardy great recognition, well done but even with my bias, not SPOTY in this period... The LCFC team though.. fully deserving. Simply because of the suprise, coming from nowhere, with its own sports unknowns. Plus over a 9 month season. 38 games Over 3-4 weather orientated Season No other team, no matter the greatness within their achievement had to carry the stress of non expectation, for so long. To hold out against all challenges then win that title, no other team small or large came near. What a 2 year period for city fans, Great escape...3 best Player awards , at various levels plus Kasper Gk recognition. A Humble coach/manager sweeping up and collecting best coach awards from all over the place in Europe. A middle club, keeping a successfull period going since 2014, yes we have slumped, but I am sure the journey is far from over. The fans can be negative and pessimistic moaners sometimes , but it keeps our feet on the ground . We fans not has individuals, but as a mass, dont over exaggerate our bias, and for me it creates a great mixed show of non controlled pro and contra opinions that makes this whole forum one of the best in the 2 top leagues. So I give us the FFOTY, to our fans. Fairest forum of the year award..
ian_marshall Posted 19 December 2016 Posted 19 December 2016 2 hours ago, Matt said: Anyone think Vardy should have been up for it last year not this year? He broke the record in November last year. Whilst the record still stands the record was last year. I remember being disappointed he wasn't nominated last year. If he was it would have been more fresh in the memories and euphoria around it (For the none Leicester fans around the country), now it's past. Oh well, got coach of the year and team of the year, not a bad night! Completely agree. Why anyone thought Vardy had a chance of winning this year I have no idea. I too was surprised he wasn't nominated last year and believed he would been a good shout to claim the award last year after setting a new record. This year however purely based on his own individual sporting achievement I don't think he has done anything of note to make himself stand out unlike many of the others than were nominated. Andy Murray was pretty much guaranteed to scoop that award tonight after his achievements this year, and rightly so in my opinion.
PhillippaT Posted 19 December 2016 Posted 19 December 2016 The one advantage Murray has over other contestants, (except for F1- and look how successful they've been at SPOTY), IMO, is that his schedule means he keeps playing (and therefore in the public eye) until November. Which means any success at that time - getting to world number 1, winning the davis cup etc., might have a bigger impact compared to others who's success came earlier on in the year. I voted for Mo. Didn't count for much. The problem with Vardy, IMO, is that half (well, most, given the record) of his success was LAST year, and for half of this year, he hasn't been firing, (along with the rest of the team). This is the problem with popularity contests...
Super_horns Posted 19 December 2016 Posted 19 December 2016 I suspect the back story to Nick Skelton's career would have won a few hearts and votes. You can always pick holes in public votes like this.. Least somebody wins who is actually good at sport unlike the X-factor where is seems to be about popularity rather than who can sing!
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