Leeds Fox Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 Last night, as everybody on here is saying, we reverted to the previously successful tactic widely known as 'the high press'. Defending from the front and constantly putting the opposition on the back foot. Offensively this has its obvious advantages, allowing Vardy and Okazaki to pressure the defenders into mistakes and for them to force the ball forwards more quickly and directly than they would do otherwise. It allows Drinkwater to release the ball forward quickly over the top, into the channels or switch play to the wingers. It allows N'Didi to nip in and challenge the oppositions CM's first touch, something that made Kante's game so effective (maybe we'd see a different Mendy playing like this?). These points are obviously massive advantages to the way we play and it's essentially the way we won the league last year. The main difference is however, it allows Morgan, Huth, Simpson and Fuchs to defend extremely effectively. Just how they did last season. Winning headers from long balls which the opposition were forced into. Defending touch tight and winning balls into the forwards feet. The way we played for the majority of the season was like putting our back 5(good defenders/average footballers) in a game of 5-a-side against Premiership quality forwards. It was painful to watch and was never going to work. Even when the ball was won, the shape of the team didn't allow us to use it effectively or attack with any impetus. All in all, the high press style of football suits all of our squad. The small cogs started turning again last night and the powerful machine started moving again. Shakespeare knows this, the players know this and hopefully the owners can see it!
Ric Flair Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 Correct and this is one of the biggest downfalls of Ranieri's. He thought we needed to conserve energy by not pressing as much, but we've not the technical players to play a heavy possession game. Quite scandalous.
MattyFromLE Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 Absolutely spot on. The real mind-boggling thing is that, that is Ranieri's system. Why on earth did he change it? Not confident without Kante?
st albans fox Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 29 minutes ago, yorkie1999 said: Shame Claudio didn't know this. suspect he realised we couldn't play two consec seasons this way but why we didn't play some games on a high press (eg. yanited and Chelsea) baffles me. will be very interesting to see how we play/are able to play against hull saturday
Wymsey Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 The key for this to be successful is to be stiff and strong in the bottom and middle part, and allow the creative players in going forward (Albrighton, Gray and Mahrez) to be able to assist Vardy etc.
norwichfox Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 Thought this was going to be another media thread about smack head journo's.....
WestLothianFox Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 Maybe Ranieri thought that with the additional games that we would have to play this season, he would have to use different tactics to conserve the players energy.
Leeds Fox Posted 28 February 2017 Author Posted 28 February 2017 2 minutes ago, WestLothianFox said: Maybe Ranieri thought that with the additional games that we would have to play this season, he would have to use different tactics to conserve the players energy. After 26 league games you'd think he might have realised. Although I can also see how it might have become a damage limitation exercise for the rest of the season so he opted for 'low risk' football.
davieG Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 conserving energy at the start of the season was a fairly logical decision because we were clearly unfit what with the previous season running on adrenaline for the latter part of it and the misguided pre-season travelogue.
ZeGuy Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 1 hour ago, Ric Flair said: Correct and this is one of the biggest downfalls of Ranieri's. He thought we needed to conserve energy by not pressing as much, but we've not the technical players to play a heavy possession game. Quite scandalous. We could have turned into one if Silva has been signed in the summer as well as Keane. With Slim up front we ha~d have the mean to play both ways. The recruitement should also pay dearly for the shit we're in.
Lovejoy Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 No point pulling any punches, the fact that Ranieri wouldn't accept this after 25 league games of underperformance is slightly worrying.
coolhandfox Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 It's not all about being a high press, its the fact we pressed as a team and when we did dropped off we did it as a unit. We look organised, and keep our shape.
SheppyFox Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 It's all we have, if we stick to it we will romp into the Champions League quarter finals, and easily achieve 12th or better in the league.
Vardinio'sCat Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 It was only the first half that we really gave em the full Klopp, the second half it was half pressing and half sitting back and countering. It's amazing what a difference scoring first makes!
Thracian Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 1 hour ago, WestLothianFox said: Maybe Ranieri thought that with the additional games that we would have to play this season, he would have to use different tactics to conserve the players energy. I've long said that the next game is the only one to focus on. Players who are winning don't get tired easily. Looking ahead asking for trouble - as we demonstrated well enough at Millwall
Kendal Fox Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 2 hours ago, Ric Flair said: Correct and this is one of the biggest downfalls of Ranieri's. He thought we needed to conserve energy by not pressing as much, but we've not the technical players to play a heavy possession game. Quite scandalous. Yep, as much as I really wanted things to work out with Ranieri, that's been the conclusion I've come to over the last few weeks. Though I think he initiated the approach honestly, if a touch naively.
Goober Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 Thought this was pretty obvious for quite a while. We're at our best when we get in teams faces
BenTheFox Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 I understood the reason behind not pressing in not wanting to expose our lack pace at the back, but I feel that it just restricted the whole team's performance. In Liverpool we pressed the ball against a team who have better technical players than most teams in the league so it does make you wonder why we have been sitting off teams who aren't as good with the ball at their feet.
ALC Fox Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 We need the same again on Saturday. Let's see if they can keep that intensity one game on and against Hull rather than Liverpool. We know what works, they know it, and Shakey knows it too. They need to show the pundits exactly why they walked this division last season.
GaelicFox Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 Let's be honest Man City and Liverpool showed contempt for our players by playing high up the park and trying to press us they got slaughtered by us by allowing us to play the way we on the league make no mistake lads Hull will not come and press us ..... saturday could be a hangover day unless we can get wide and make action happen from wide areas Gray has to start !
st albans fox Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 25 minutes ago, MPH said: We could actually beat Sevilla now couldnt we? I think you will find they have a rather better defence than lpool. also, klopp's decision to play with only one holding midfielder (can) infront of that back two was madness. nzonzi will patrole that area like two men. will be v interesting if we get behind the boys and we can unsettle them.
funkyrobot Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 2 hours ago, Leeds Fox said: Last night, as everybody on here is saying, we reverted to the previously successful tactic widely known as 'the high press'. Defending from the front and constantly putting the opposition on the back foot. Offensively this has its obvious advantages, allowing Vardy and Okazaki to pressure the defenders into mistakes and for them to force the ball forwards more quickly and directly than they would do otherwise. It allows Drinkwater to release the ball forward quickly over the top, into the channels or switch play to the wingers. It allows N'Didi to nip in and challenge the oppositions CM's first touch, something that made Kante's game so effective (maybe we'd see a different Mendy playing like this?). These points are obviously massive advantages to the way we play and it's essentially the way we won the league last year. The main difference is however, it allows Morgan, Huth, Simpson and Fuchs to defend extremely effectively. Just how they did last season. Winning headers from long balls which the opposition were forced into. Defending touch tight and winning balls into the forwards feet. The way we played for the majority of the season was like putting our back 5(good defenders/average footballers) in a game of 5-a-side against Premiership quality forwards. It was painful to watch and was never going to work. Even when the ball was won, the shape of the team didn't allow us to use it effectively or attack with any impetus. All in all, the high press style of football suits all of our squad. The small cogs started turning again last night and the powerful machine started moving again. Shakespeare knows this, the players know this and hopefully the owners can see it! You've smashed foxestalk with this quality explanation. If only Claudio had realised this, he would've saved his job and we would be worrying about staying in touch with European places rather than fighting relegation.
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