ajthefox Posted 3 September 2017 Posted 3 September 2017 Looking at those transfer stats I think it highlights how well we've done business. We've spent a decent wedge, but our average spend per players isn't too much and it looks like (hopefully) it is a few quality players where necessary. People make a lot of noise about signing lots of players, but high turnover year after year isn't smart. You want to just build steadily and add players in key positions. I know it will be difficult for Brighton and Huddersfield but buying 10+ players is ridiculous imo. It's a team game. If you replace half your starting 11 every season you'll constantly playing catch up trying to bed in players and getting them to work together.
sylofox Posted 3 September 2017 Posted 3 September 2017 On 02/09/2017 at 08:56, st albans fox said: Not sure if this is true (from twitter) but if it is, it helps lay bare the nonsense that Spurs are somehow the future of English football (these lists exclude U21's where Spurs have a few British kids but no more than most clubs) I I might just be being stupid but who are NCFC with 13?
shen Posted 3 September 2017 Posted 3 September 2017 On 2/9/2017 at 09:56, st albans fox said: Not sure if this is true (from twitter) but if it is, it helps lay bare the nonsense that Spurs are somehow the future of English football (these lists exclude U21's where Spurs have a few British kids but no more than most clubs) I How very odd to exclude the English U21s and then say Tottenham aren't "the future of English football". Surely, these are the future?? Secondly, I don't trust those stats. Off the top of my head, Spurs' regular English players are Rose, Dier, Trippier, Alli and Kane (5 players who are all full England internationals), not 4 as your list says. Walker-Peters and Winks are already making regular appearances too and Walker leaving for City doesn't really change the picture.
Jimothy Posted 3 September 2017 Posted 3 September 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, shen said: How very odd to exclude the English U21s and then say Tottenham aren't "the future of English football". Surely, these are the future?? Secondly, I don't trust those stats. Off the top of my head, Spurs' regular English players are Rose, Dier, Trippier, Alli and Kane (5 players who are all full England internationals), not 4 as your list says. Walker-Peters and Winks are already making regular appearances too and Walker leaving for City doesn't really change the picture. Dier wouldn't be classed as home grown as he spent his youth career in Portugal. Walker-Peters abd Winks would both be under 21. Edited 3 September 2017 by Facecloth
KingsX Posted 3 September 2017 Posted 3 September 2017 6 minutes ago, sylofox said: I might just be being stupid but who are NCFC with 13? New Castle (Pennsylvania) Football Club? 1
Jimothy Posted 3 September 2017 Posted 3 September 2017 7 minutes ago, sylofox said: I might just be being stupid but who are NCFC with 13? Also how are we meant to know which of SCFC and SFC are Stoke City and Swansea City?
shen Posted 3 September 2017 Posted 3 September 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Facecloth said: Dier wouldn't be classed as home grown as he spent his youth career in Portugal. Walker-Peters abd Winks would both be under 21. Ah, but that only highlights how those stats are skewed to draw wrong conclusions. I know WP and Winks are U21, but the OP claimed this debunked the myth that Spurs are driving the development of English players. Surely, U21 English players figuring in their first XI regularly contradicts this, which makes me question the OPs agenda Edited 3 September 2017 by shen
Jimothy Posted 3 September 2017 Posted 3 September 2017 (edited) 1 minute ago, shen said: Ah, but that only highlights how those stats are skewed to draw wrong conclusions. I know WP and Winks are U21, but the OP claimed this debunked the myth that Spurs are driving the development of English players. Surely, U21 English players figuring in their first XI regularly contradicts this, which makes me question the OPs motivation. Oh yeah I'm just pointing out how Spurs are on 4 in that list, not agreeing with point it was making. Edited 3 September 2017 by Facecloth 1
sylofox Posted 3 September 2017 Posted 3 September 2017 On 02/09/2017 at 08:56, st albans fox said: Not sure if this is true (from twitter) but if it is, it helps lay bare the nonsense that Spurs are somehow the future of English football (these lists exclude U21's where Spurs have a few British kids but no more than most clubs) I 12 minutes ago, sylofox said: I might just be being stupid but who are NCFC with 13? 5 minutes ago, KingsX said: New Castle (Pennsylvania) Football Club? 3 minutes ago, Facecloth said: Also how are we meant to know which of SCFC and SFC are Stoke City and Swansea City? Safe to say then it's a total feck up
st albans fox Posted 3 September 2017 Posted 3 September 2017 2 minutes ago, sylofox said: Safe to say then it's a total feck up I think the chap that tweeted it was Finnish. Confident that he doesn't know swansea is a city ! only bothered about the Spurs data as thought it interesting.
st albans fox Posted 3 September 2017 Posted 3 September 2017 On 02/09/2017 at 11:27, st albans fox said: Gold and Sullivan are brilliant at passing the buck aren't they! And it always ends up at the mangers door! Apparently West Ham are suing SCP director of comms for stating that they didn't bid for carvalho and some other disparaging remarks on social media. If the cap fits.... Would be great for Sullivan to win and be awarded €1 for the damage to his reputation!
Wymsey Posted 3 September 2017 Posted 3 September 2017 It does seem that, particularly with The London Stadium in mind, the West Ham owners are operating a club via a business/commercial perspective - but it appears that one thing that they don't seem to know how to do well is on the scouting/football management side. As obvious as it sounds, yes, but doing well on-the-pitch would get the tickets/revenue/more supporter interest into the club - but it seems that their owners have put external matters like the stadium purchase for a more global exposure over thorough player research and recruitment. The stadium matter hasn't made much positive vibe to the players last season and it does feel like a waste of a venue with fans too far away from the pitch (poor atmosphere); comparing their old Upton Park ground, which was a fortress for them at times, to this one tells you what football stadia should be about - the new ground has already caused controversy, but ultimately it sounds like a soulless bowl. Their situation feels like Mike Ashley at Newcastle; put millions into the club, buying the stadium and putting Sports Direct advertising nearly everywhere - but their strong potential has been hampered by poor football management decisions that has seen them have difficult times under his ownership.
chapero82 Posted 4 September 2017 Posted 4 September 2017 Why do we have to play Utd twice before Watford and was away first game, Boxing Day and last game of the season? this seasons fixtures are brutal
Domsdad Posted 6 September 2017 Posted 6 September 2017 Talk sh*tes "super computer" has us to finish ninth. Think I would take that at the minute.
Wymsey Posted 6 September 2017 Posted 6 September 2017 Ex-Liverpool and Newcastle defender Jose Enrique retires at 31. http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41177300 Pretty sure he was linked to here/we were interested in him a season or so ago?
jammie82uk Posted 6 September 2017 Posted 6 September 2017 No wonder nobody appears to want to deal with West Ham if this is how they send offers icing on the cake is the threat of pulling out the deal due to getting a PSG player on loan believed to have been Grzegorz Krychowiak which obviously never happened either 1
spacemunky Posted 7 September 2017 Posted 7 September 2017 5 hours ago, Wymeswold fox said: Ex-Liverpool and Newcastle defender Jose Enrique retires at 31. http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41177300 Pretty sure he was linked to here/we were interested in him a season or so ago? Quality player. Best to him.
Leeds Fox Posted 7 September 2017 Posted 7 September 2017 9 hours ago, jammie82uk said: No wonder nobody appears to want to deal with West Ham if this is how they send offers icing on the cake is the threat of pulling out the deal due to getting a PSG player on loan believed to have been Grzegorz Krychowiak which obviously never happened either Surely that can't be real. It barely makes sense!
MC Prussian Posted 7 September 2017 Posted 7 September 2017 6 hours ago, jammie82uk said: No wonder nobody appears to want to deal with West Ham if this is how they send offers icing on the cake is the threat of pulling out the deal due to getting a PSG player on loan believed to have been Grzegorz Krychowiak which obviously never happened either "... West Ham United qualify for (the) Champions League..." LMAO
Fox92 Posted 7 September 2017 Posted 7 September 2017 (edited) Quote Breaking: Summer transfer window to close Thursday 5pm before new season starts. Starting 18/19 season. At long last Edited 7 September 2017 by Fox92
davieG Posted 7 September 2017 Posted 7 September 2017 4 minutes ago, Fox92 said: At long last PL or FL start?
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