st albans fox Posted 27 June 2017 Posted 27 June 2017 I think we need two transfer threads per player - one for debating how good/not good, worth/not worth it the player is and one for actual transfer news on the player.
st albans fox Posted 27 June 2017 Posted 27 June 2017 31 minutes ago, ARM1968 said: That would be a very small thread. Perfect - would save a lot of us a lot of time !!
Beliall Posted 27 June 2017 Posted 27 June 2017 41 minutes ago, st albans fox said: I think we need two transfer threads per player - one for debating how good/not good, worth/not worth it the player is and one for actual transfer news on the player. When a player signs an "official" he has signed thread wil pop. so you can assume any new post in a current thread is bollocks
st albans fox Posted 27 June 2017 Posted 27 June 2017 1 minute ago, Beliall said: When a player signs an "official" he has signed thread wil pop. so you can assume any new post in a current thread is bollocks That's also bollocks ! plenty of ITK info pops up from time to time which is relevant to the transfer itself. Also info re links of the player to other clubs etc
Beliall Posted 27 June 2017 Posted 27 June 2017 3 minutes ago, st albans fox said: That's also bollocks ! plenty of ITK info pops up from time to time which is relevant to the transfer itself. Also info re links of the player to other clubs etc Most ITK are not ITK though
NewquayFox Posted 27 June 2017 Posted 27 June 2017 Mendy to Bordeaux apparently, can Mahrez go with him as he likes a good 'whine' by all accounts.....
Kitchandro Posted 27 June 2017 Posted 27 June 2017 22 hours ago, Babylon said: Probably, but then you might not get the sort of player we want. Someone creative that can also fill the hard working role of Okazaki, Sigurdsson is hard working as well as being a top talent. Sounds like we'd be playing Iheanacho in the Okazaki role though. Or that's where he's best suited anyway. £40m is world class money. I'm not sure I rate him as world class. I'd like someone a bit quicker and capable of beating players (a la Mahrez) for that sort of money.
Kitchandro Posted 27 June 2017 Posted 27 June 2017 1 hour ago, Blodge said: Glyfi Sigurdsson PL stats: Appearances: 182 Goals: 42 Assists: 33 Total involvement in goals: 75 Riyad Mahrez Appearances: 103 Goals: 27 Assists: 17 Total involvement in goals: 44 When you compare the two, considering we're adamant we're not selling Mahrez below £50m (which I agree with btw, as Mahrez is still a class above), is £40m really too much for a player of Sigurdsson's quality? I know stats can be deceiving, but Sigurdsson has proven that he can score and assist, in a weak Swansea team that have struggled over the past few seasons, and is easily worth the money. Just out of interest, how many of those goals and assists are from dead ball situations?
Stevosevic Posted 27 June 2017 Posted 27 June 2017 1 minute ago, Kitchandro said: Sounds like we'd be playing Iheanacho in the Okazaki role though. Or that's where he's best suited anyway. £40m is world class money. I'm not sure I rate him as world class. I'd like someone a bit quicker and capable of beating players (a la Mahrez) for that sort of money. Kyle Walker is also going to Man City for 40m and Chelzea are spending 65m on a LB. If full backs are going for that amount, surely midfielders hitting double figures are worth that amount? Who knows, it's a crazy market.
st albans fox Posted 27 June 2017 Posted 27 June 2017 3 minutes ago, Kitchandro said: Sounds like we'd be playing Iheanacho in the Okazaki role though. Or that's where he's best suited anyway. £40m is world class money. I'm not sure I rate him as world class. I'd like someone a bit quicker and capable of beating players (a la Mahrez) for that sort of money. not any more. (though I do think its about 8 mill over the top for him.). thing is, for what he would bring to our team (creativity and work rate) it would probably be the vardy type scenario where you can buy a goal scorer but not one who works so hard.
Blodge Posted 27 June 2017 Posted 27 June 2017 7 minutes ago, Kitchandro said: Just out of interest, how many of those goals and assists are from dead ball situations? Not entirely sure it didn't drill down into that. I'd assume more are from dead ball situations, but isn't that something we desperately need?
thybluefox Posted 27 June 2017 Posted 27 June 2017 14 minutes ago, Kitchandro said: Just out of interest, how many of those goals and assists are from dead ball situations? Would it be a negative if it was a significant number? Surely it doesn't matter where the balls are coming from as long as goals are being scored? 15 minutes ago, Kitchandro said: £40m is world class money. I'm not sure I rate him as world class. I'd like someone a bit quicker and capable of beating players (a la Mahrez) for that sort of money. £40m isn't world class money any more - as depressing as it is. You want someone quick, who can beat a man, and ideally consistently create chances/score...? Who would that be for sub £40/50m?
Babylon Posted 27 June 2017 Posted 27 June 2017 23 minutes ago, Kitchandro said: Sounds like we'd be playing Iheanacho in the Okazaki role though. Or that's where he's best suited anyway. £40m is world class money. I'm not sure I rate him as world class. I'd like someone a bit quicker and capable of beating players (a la Mahrez) for that sort of money. I'm thinking it's one or the other from Iheanacho and Sigurdson and not both.
ajthefox Posted 27 June 2017 Posted 27 June 2017 Mane - £34 million Sane - £37 million Benteke - £32 million Ozil - £42.5 million Sterling - £50 million Salah - £36 million Martial - £36 million Not the same types of player but still. Sigurdsson is pretty good in terms of goals/assists. Not sure how the others compare over the last few seasons (Obviously Salah isn't in the PL yet) but Sigurdsson has been playing in a poor team all this time. I'm not quite sure where he fits in but for me £35 mil isn't that bad value in this market, 40 is probably pushing it though.
ROB-THE-BLUE Posted 27 June 2017 Posted 27 June 2017 6 minutes ago, Babylon said: I'm thinking it's one or the other from Iheanacho and Sigurdson and not both. Probably neither.
woznotwos Posted 27 June 2017 Posted 27 June 2017 23 minutes ago, thybluefox said: Would it be a negative if it was a significant number? Surely it doesn't matter where the balls are coming from as long as goals are being scored? £40m isn't world class money any more - as depressing as it is. You want someone quick, who can beat a man, and ideally consistently create chances/score...? Who would that be for sub £40/50m? Mahrez according to Arsenal
Moksky Posted 27 June 2017 Posted 27 June 2017 21 minutes ago, ROB-THE-BLUE said: Probably neither. Both are being priced highley and we are not willing to meet the figures at the minute THe whole market is waiitng for first moves at higher levels - Mbappe, Sanchez and co. this will filter down to moves for Mahrez , Sigurdsson, Barkley and co.
weller54 Posted 27 June 2017 Posted 27 June 2017 Swansea signing Roque Mesa (Midfielder) for 11m..... Does that mean Siggy is leaving?
mozartfox Posted 27 June 2017 Posted 27 June 2017 6 minutes ago, weller54 said: Swansea signing Roque Mesa (Midfielder) for 11m..... Does that mean Siggy is leaving? It probably means their recruitment team has the ability to identify targets and reel them in quickly and efficiently without running up 60 pages on their fans forum.
weller54 Posted 27 June 2017 Posted 27 June 2017 2 minutes ago, mozartfox said: It probably means their recruitment team has the ability to identify targets and reel them in quickly and efficiently without running up 60 pages on their fans forum. Do they have football forums in Wales?.... Sheep forums yes!
lgfualol Posted 27 June 2017 Posted 27 June 2017 4 minutes ago, mozartfox said: It probably means their recruitment team has the ability to identify targets and reel them in quickly and efficiently without running up 60 pages on their fans forum. They have 2 whole pages. Bunch of amateurs.
mozartfox Posted 27 June 2017 Posted 27 June 2017 Just now, lgfualol said: They have 2 whole pages. Bunch of amateurs.
weller54 Posted 27 June 2017 Posted 27 June 2017 2 minutes ago, lgfualol said: They have 2 whole pages. Bunch of amateurs. Bet there's not one long John silver joke?.... Welsh have no sense of humour!
Harry96 Posted 27 June 2017 Posted 27 June 2017 20 minutes ago, weller54 said: Swansea signing Roque Mesa (Midfielder) for 11m..... Does that mean Siggy is leaving? Different positions
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