Soar Fox Posted 24 May 2017 Posted 24 May 2017 On 21/05/2017 at 16:21, Nalis said: Dont worry, some bellends on here would rather have him airbrushed out given half the chance.
Fox92 Posted 24 May 2017 Posted 24 May 2017 6 hours ago, GaelicFox said: He is a god , an immortal and for anyone claiming to love this Club be derogatory about him is a soulless individual thank you Claudio , you delivered paradise unfortunately you had to go because we can't sack 11 judas players and survive may you always walk in the bright glow of the eternal sun !
Wymsey Posted 27 May 2017 Posted 27 May 2017 http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/617581/Claudio-Ranieri-Leeds-United-next-manager-Garry-Monk-Exclusive-Elland-Road Leeds United's new Italian owner has approached Ranieri over vacant job there, according to the above. Just can't see him wanting to go down a league he's not familiar with imo.
TheUltimateWinner Posted 27 May 2017 Posted 27 May 2017 I'm not saying this to disrespect Ranieri at all, but that reeks of when Sven joined us if he does go to manage Leeds. I don't see him doing well there, only because it would be a completely different league that he's used to. Sven had a pretty decent record until he came to us, could see the same happening to Ranieri.
BenTheFox Posted 27 May 2017 Posted 27 May 2017 On 2017-5-24 at 07:07, GaelicFox said: He is a god , an immortal and for anyone claiming to love this Club be derogatory about him is a soulless individual thank you Claudio , you delivered paradise unfortunately you had to go because we can't sack 11 judas players and survive may you always walk in the bright glow of the eternal sun ! Are you serious?
AlloverthefloorYesNdidi Posted 27 May 2017 Posted 27 May 2017 On Wednesday, May 24, 2017 at 10:11, Steve_Walsh5 said:
Sionnach gorm Posted 27 May 2017 Posted 27 May 2017 3 hours ago, Wymeswold fox said: http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/617581/Claudio-Ranieri-Leeds-United-next-manager-Garry-Monk-Exclusive-Elland-Road Leeds United's new Italian owner has approached Ranieri over vacant job there, according to the above. Just can't see him wanting to go down a league he's not familiar with imo. Historically Ranieri has done well in division two leagues. In both Italy, France. He took Cagliari from division 3 to division 1. Monaco from league two to league one getting second place the first year in league one. I suspect the owners know this, and with the managers he's up against (sorry but many really deserve only to manage that league) I think he'd do rather well. The fact says a lot about Ranieri. He does not have a sense pride about who he'll manage (it is one of the reasons he came to Leicester...let's face it a Mourinho, or a Guardiola would never put themselves in a risky situation like Leicester). Ranieri loves football and loves to manage. I am, perhaps, one of the few left that still thinks he shouldn't have been fired. I do believe he would have turned it around.
Countryfox Posted 27 May 2017 Posted 27 May 2017 4 minutes ago, Sionnach gorm said: Ranieri ... I do believe he would have turned it around.
Jattdogg Posted 27 May 2017 Posted 27 May 2017 No way he takes that job unless he is bored and needs cash. Considering there was all this crap said about us for sacking him you dont exactly see top clubs lining up to sign him. Snakes
Chico1958 Posted 27 May 2017 Posted 27 May 2017 wrote something after a couple of beers last night Woke up this morning and thought I can't be ased So deleted it.............. The End
Sionnach gorm Posted 29 May 2017 Posted 29 May 2017 On 5/27/2017 at 18:36, Chico1958 said: wrote something after a couple of beers last night Woke up this morning and thought I can't be ased So deleted it.............. The End Seemed fine to me. This being a forum, at least from my understanding, you should be able to speak your mind...whatever that might be! In Vino Veritas!
fuchsntf Posted 29 May 2017 Posted 29 May 2017 On Saturday, May 27, 2017 at 19:38, Sionnach gorm said: Historically HiRanieri has done well in division two leagues. In both talian fineItaly, France. He took Cagliari from division 3 to division 1. Monaco from league two to league one getting second place the first year in league one. I suspect the owners know this, and with the managers he's up against (sorry but many really deserve only to manage that league) I think he'd do rather well. The fact says a lot about Ranieri. He does not have a sense pride about who he'll manage (it is one of the reasons he came to Leicester...let's face it a Mourinho, or a Guardiola would never put themselves in a risky situation like Leicester). Ranieri loves football and loves to manage. I am, perhaps, one of the few left that still thinks he shouldn't have been fired. I do believe he would have turned it around. Your last sentence, many will sympathise with, I for am glad it was descision I didnt have to make. Unfortunately we cant do test runs..... The major question would then have been, could he, would he, have been ablee to push his ideas through to the team, the coming season. I doubt there was a player revolt..In a strange way I believe the players wanted to develope with his thoughts. Ranieri fell on his own sword in the end..He didnt want Last seasons backroom team, therefore he stepped on some peoples toes.He wasnt flexable enough after Xmas to relax on his teams chosen approach to each game. He got it wrong, and actually couldnt see what he had been given, and the unique Englishness Excentricness and stubborn ethos, Withinside the group was something he himself didnt grasp. Dare I say he Himself still couldnt believe, the teams success.Therefore had too many dreams of grandeur, on how how he Could further mould the original group, into some sort of Unique breed of Italian Technical Finess, crossed with the English Fighting warrior spirit. He was scared of not touching it, because he didnt UNDERSTAND in the Title winning Heartbeat and how of his own team.... That though, in no way stops him being a would be top candidate now for another club... Premier, or a team like Leeds in the Championship, hes got top credentials exactly for this challenge. Its more x a question have Leeds the insite and Balls.!!! I would cheer if he makes a comeback. Some posters on here show their total lack of knowledge, on Ranieris credentials and Ranieris competence.
AmarteyAndChill Posted 29 May 2017 Posted 29 May 2017 On 27 May 2017 at 18:38, Sionnach gorm said: Historically Ranieri has done well in division two leagues. In both Italy, France. He took Cagliari from division 3 to division 1. Monaco from league two to league one getting second place the first year in league one. I suspect the owners know this, and with the managers he's up against (sorry but many really deserve only to manage that league) I think he'd do rather well. The fact says a lot about Ranieri. He does not have a sense pride about who he'll manage (it is one of the reasons he came to Leicester...let's face it a Mourinho, or a Guardiola would never put themselves in a risky situation like Leicester). Ranieri loves football and loves to manage. I am, perhaps, one of the few left that still thinks he shouldn't have been fired. I do believe he would have turned it around. Why didn't he turn it around sooner then?
Chico1958 Posted 29 May 2017 Posted 29 May 2017 1 hour ago, AmarteyAndChill said: Why didn't he turn it around sooner then? We'll never know the answer to whether he could have turned it around or not. The owners believed he couldn't and there is where his historic and our story ended I would say everybody needs to be pulling in the same direction for things to work He tried changing things and it didn't work, either players didn't have the ability or didn't want to Now he's gone we seem to want to forget he was part of that historic season, we also seem to be content on ridiculing the man who gave us so much joy last season.........He was the man leading us to heights that I never imagined our team would reach, he was the man who made us laugh during his interviews and he is the man who will get nothing but respect from me until my dying day. I do have one last thought though.......... Conte was under pressure at the beginning of the season ( Even with The Little French Guy ) and he changed their style completely, the players responded and the rest as they say is history... Oh I nearly forgot, so did Spurs for the Chelsea game and Arsenal for their last 5 or 6 games. They managed it, why couldn't we ? Ps: I still believe it was the right decision at the time to let him go but was everyone as uncomfortable as me watching the team beat Liverpool the way they did after watching the same team get beat by Swansea 10 days earlier............... Read the Swansea thread again, it's not good.
katieakita Posted 29 May 2017 Posted 29 May 2017 Will go down as one of the greatest managerial achievements of all time and the guy is a legend and every City fan should be eternally grateful for what he achieved and that should never be forgotten. However for whatever reason it did not work and he was never going to be able to match last season. Many have pointed out who have followed his career that the 2nd season rarely matched the first and teams often struggled. The owners were left with an awful decision and hindsight their brave unpopular move paid off. Last season things did not work and with Football the manager is normally the one to carry the can.
volpeazzurro Posted 29 May 2017 Posted 29 May 2017 30 minutes ago, Chico1958 said: We'll never know the answer to whether he could have turned it around or not. The owners believed he couldn't and there is where his historic and our story ended I would say everybody needs to be pulling in the same direction for things to work He tried changing things and it didn't work, either players didn't have the ability or didn't want to Now he's gone we seem to want to forget he was part of that historic season, we also seem to be content on ridiculing the man who gave us so much joy last season.........He was the man leading us to heights that I never imagined our team would reach, he was the man who made us laugh during his interviews and he is the man who will get nothing but respect from me until my dying day. I do have one last thought though.......... Conte was under pressure at the beginning of the season ( Even with The Little French Guy ) and he changed their style completely, the players responded and the rest as they say is history... Oh I nearly forgot, so did Spurs for the Chelsea game and Arsenal for their last 5 or 6 games. They managed it, why couldn't we ? Ps: I still believe it was the right decision at the time to let him go but was everyone as uncomfortable as me watching the team beat Liverpool the way they did after watching the same team get beat by Swansea 10 days earlier............... Read the Swansea thread again, it's not good. A very poignant post this is. As we walked into the stadium for the Liverpool game I, and I suspect many others had very mixed feelings and yes, I felt very uncomfortable. Of course like many others, I welcomed the result and was puzzled and confused about the performance. There was clearly far more to what went on than meets the eye and we'll probably never no the full truth, therefore without the full facts it's possibly unfair to simply put the blame on one individuals shoulders ie Ranieri's. Likewise the whole player conspiracy theory which, when I read Allbrightons rebuttal of it, a little bit of truth shone through. He had a very tragic experience in his personal life in which he quoted Ranieri being helpful to him, I doubt that he was lieing when he said he hadn't gone behind his back. The manager understanably carries the can when these things go wrong but it wasn't just one man's fault, it's too simple. One man wasn't totally responsible for the achievement that year and one man wasn't entirely culpable the next for the players poor performance, training , discipline, tactics, recruitment and team selection. If it was, then it was all down to that same one man the year before and we know that wasn't the case. Just as some of the good remains or has been revitalised since Ranieri has gone, so does some of the bad as some of the end of season performances demonstrated. Either way, for one year we need to be grateful to the on and off the field teams that achieved the dream and not slag off and belittle people now they've gone. For that one year, Ranieri was the man. My fears with Shakespeare remaning as manager is that it's a halfway house solution to the problem, as there needs to be changes and I feel he's too close to some of the players and there's an air that he's only allowed to manage with the consent of some of the players. If he is to get the job then good luck to him,; but let's just get it done quickly for obvious reasons, but if he's stalling for better pay etc he wants to think carefully because he'll not get a better first manager's job than this. However, if I was to be a new manager coming in, contrary to popular opinion, I'd want him out. After what happened to Ranieri, I wouldn't trust him or some of the players. I'd have my own ways and trusted staff whose loyalty would be to me first and not the players.
Corky Posted 29 May 2017 Posted 29 May 2017 I hope the club invite him back to a game early next season so we can give him the ovation he deserves and a chance for a send-off if he isn't back in management by then.
Melbourne Fuchs Posted 29 May 2017 Posted 29 May 2017 2 hours ago, Chico1958 said: Read the Swansea thread again, it's not good. That's a depressing read. All the threads around that time are.
Chico1958 Posted 29 May 2017 Posted 29 May 2017 6 minutes ago, Tuna said: No Claudio! Don't do it! They'll eat you alive! Not sure I understand this Tuna........ is it reference to Leeds or Crystal Palace ? Watched the Damned Utd again last night.......... Great Story and Good Film Thought provoking as well
Chico1958 Posted 29 May 2017 Posted 29 May 2017 20 hours ago, Sionnach gorm said: Seemed fine to me. This being a forum, at least from my understanding, you should be able to speak your mind...whatever that might be! In Vino Veritas! Yep, their was a lot of wine
Foxxed Posted 30 May 2017 Posted 30 May 2017 I dreamt Top asked him to come back and he agreed last night...
foxfanazer Posted 30 May 2017 Posted 30 May 2017 2 minutes ago, Foxxed said: I dreamt Top asked him to come back and he agreed last night... Did we continue to play predictable football and stick with underperforming players in your dream too?
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