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1 hour ago, leuven said:

They are giving the current director of football a chance to prove himself, if he won't perform well I'm sure the new owners will make the right decisions. We must not forget that the deal to buy our club was reached not so long ago, so they are still learning at the moment about the ins and outs of the belgian second division. Dirk Degraen, who helped bring Ndidi from Genk to leicester, is also giving some advice to the current staff.

 

We can't become to anxious, it will take a bit of time to turn the club around. First step is to get back to first division in 2-3 years. If it happens in the first year, great. If not, no reason to panic. We will get better each year as lessons are learned.

 

 

Absolutely right

 

good luck, you will definitely improve given time

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3 hours ago, cityfanlee23 said:

Worth mentioning that we won the championship and survived in the premier league with players we signed that were "nobodies" in large. 

Wes Morgan - Average lower 2nd division defender

Danny drinkwater - A Nobody from utd reserves

De Laet - A Nobody from utd reserves

Gary Taylor Fletcher - An overweight player with a great brain (left after promotion) 

Matty James  - A Nobody from utd reserves

Lloyd Dyer - Playing in the 3rd division (Left after promotion)

Jamie Vardy - Signed from the 5th division

 

We had a mix of old a young, none of whom were ever considered top players in that league, yet we trounced the league. 

Have faith, the owners will come through, we've trusted them blindly for years, and so far they've made many more good decisions than bad, they are in it for the long haul I'd think :)

 

 

 

Did you block out the Chelsea game then when he came on to play midfield lol.

As for Leuven, im sure the owners will use this year to try and stabilise the club, see where they are at, what areas need the most improvement and take it from there. They aren't the kind of owners to jump in rashly and start throwing money everywhere as they learnt with us. They will aim for long term progression so fans may need to be patient for a while but when they get to grips with the league and the team/staff you will hopefully start to progress at a quicker pace.

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2 hours ago, leuven said:

apparently the coaching staff decided not to keep Raul Uche

Doesn't necessarily mean he's not good enough could be he doesn't offer you something different to what you already have.

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I can't say, I have only seen  him play for 45 minutes where he did not have many touches. You can't use him as a lone striker, he's a bit light for that. Does have some technical ability.

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On 23/07/2017 at 13:12, Pelotas said:

Most supporters are becoming a bit worried. In spite of the increased budget due to the takeover, the incoming transfers thus far have not been really inspiring:

* Julien Gorius, 33, French midfielder. Played over 200 matches in Div 1 in Belgium for Mechelen and Genk between 2008 and 2016 before moving to China where he spent most of his time on the bench. Released near the end of 2016 and without a club since.

* Derrick Tshimanga, 28, Belgian left wingback. 1 time international in 2011, more than 150 matches in Div 1 for Lokeren and Genk between 2008 and 2016. Spent last season at Willem II but suffered from stomach problems towards the end of the season and was therefore released. Will not be available for the beginning of the season, currently training separately from the group.

* Dimitri Daeseleire, 27, Belgian right wingback. Got injured in the second half of the 2015-16 season playing for Antwerp in the second division and did not succeed to get back in the team during the 2016-17 season. Hasn't played a single minute for about 1.5 years.

* Kenneth Schuermans, 26, Belgian central defender. Tall (1m94/6ft 4.5in) and good header. Mocked last season for scoring a silly owngoal and appearing clumsy. Obtained for free from relegated Westerlo. 

* Geert Berben, 24, Belgian midfielder. Another one picked up for free or nearly nothing as his team (Lommel United) relegated.

* Mathieu Maertens, 22, Belgian midfielder. Coming from Cercle Brugge who are renewing there whole team as they signed a partnership with Monaco and have already 18 (!) new incoming transfers. 

* Nikola Storm, 22, Belgian winger. Fast, aggressive... but arrives just on loan from Club Brugge. Was in fact already on loan the previous season and the deal was extended.

 

...that leaves French players Yannick Aguemon (25, winger/striker from Union SG) and Clément Fabre (28, defender from Tubize), also not big names. If the budget has gone up, we're not seeing it...

 

My first visit to this thread and it's good to see Belgian supporters on here. 

 

My advice re the above is to be patient this year. When foreign owners take over your club, like us, you will at first feel a little uneasy because history provides so many examples of where it goes horribly wrong, even at the top level for various reasons. 

 

Our Thai owners having done nothing but good for us. We were massively in debt, they effectively bought out that debt. They bought the ground which we didn't own. They massively improved and rebuilt training facilities. They laid on family fun days and invited big teams like Real Madrid here for preseason friendlies. BUT....they quite rightly took their time, it's a good business model and they are good business people, your club are in good hands depending on how much other people there allow them to do.

 

Good business for you is good business for them. If you know the Leicester City story it's not hard to work out the money in increased share prices and worldwide exposure that King Power has benefited from. It would be a very big mistake to have the opinion that your club is 'just a play thing for the owners son'. He too is a shrewd individual in business terms. If they bought your club, they did so for sound business reasons, they smell potential. 

 

As for your new players, be patient, they're finding their feet and won't waste money at this early stage there will be a period of settling in and getting to know how things work in football in another foreign country. Not only that, our Premiership winning side were hardly full of expensive superstars! Respect is a huge matter in their culture and I know from contacts involved at our club, it will be something bought to your boardroom and is a ground rule for conducting business which isn't a bad thing.

 

Be patient, enjoy the prospect of something good being built, though there may be the odd little bump along the way. We almost expect a bit of drama here now! 

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16 minutes ago, volpeazzurro said:

My first visit to this thread and it's good to see Belgian supporters on here. 

 

My advice re the above is to be patient this year. When foreign owners take over your club, like us, you will at first feel a little uneasy because history provides so many examples of where it goes horribly wrong, even at the top level for various reasons. 

 

Our Thai owners having done nothing but good for us. We were massively in debt, they effectively bought out that debt. They bought the ground which we didn't own. They massively improved and rebuilt training facilities. They laid on family fun days and invited big teams like Real Madrid here for preseason friendlies. BUT....they quite rightly took their time, it's a good business model and they are good business people, your club are in good hands depending on how much other people there allow them to do.

 

Good business for you is good business for them. If you know the Leicester City story it's not hard to work out the money in increased share prices and worldwide exposure that King Power has benefited from. It would be a very big mistake to have the opinion that your club is 'just a play thing for the owners son'. He too is a shrewd individual in business terms. If they bought your club, they did so for sound business reasons, they smell potential. 

 

As for your new players, be patient, they're finding their feet and won't waste money at this early stage there will be a period of settling in and getting to know how things work in football in another foreign country. Not only that, our Premiership winning side were hardly full of expensive superstars! Respect is a huge matter in their culture and I know from contacts involved at our club, it will be something bought to your boardroom and is a ground rule for conducting business which isn't a bad thing.

 

Be patient, enjoy the prospect of something good being built, though there may be the odd little bump along the way. We almost expect a bit of drama here now! 

They blew a lot of money early on with us chasing the Premier League without any real plan in place. It wasn't until they binned Sven that they understood it's not just about throwing money at it. That being said the list of transfers Leuven have made is hardly very exciting. Hopefully they'll get Musa, Okazaki, Ulloa, King, Mendy and Hamer off Leicester. Job done.

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9 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

They blew a lot of money early on with us chasing the Premier League without any real plan in place. It wasn't until they binned Sven that they understood it's not just about throwing money at it. That being said the list of transfers Leuven have made is hardly very exciting. Hopefully they'll get Musa, Okazaki, Ulloa, King, Mendy and Hamer off Leicester. Job done.

Think you're dead right with Sven. Understandably they presumed that a charismatic ex England manager would know enough about football to lead a campaign in the second tier of English football . Oops! Not the first time he's had people's pants down,  they didn't learn even after us!

 

Think they learned a lot from that initial period and are taking a more cautious approach to Leuven.

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one thing we can say is that Leuven is not becoming a feeder club for leicester. At this moment not one player has been sent on loan to leuven. When you compare this with Cercle brugge in our league, which is now full of monaco loan players.

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Today the team will play their "rehearsal" match in preparation for the new season starting next weekend.

 

Head coach Van Wijk is complaining. He states the team is not ready and five more new players are needed with priority a left wingback and a defensive midfielder. Claims "nothing is moving" on the transfer side as apparently "the new Thai owner will only transfer money in September". The team will play today with an "emergency lineup" consisting of many youngsters.

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10 minutes ago, Pelotas said:

Today the team will play their "rehearsal" match in preparation for the new season starting next weekend.

 

Head coach Van Wijk is complaining. He states the team is not ready and five more new players are needed with priority a left wingback and a defensive midfielder. Claims "nothing is moving" on the transfer side as apparently "the new Thai owner will only transfer money in September". The team will play today with an "emergency lineup" consisting of many youngsters.

Must be a reason for the money issue, something might be an issue in the background, potentially tax or some other issue.

Also, I feel that if the coach publicly complains too often, he may be let go, the Thai owners don't strike me as people who have gotten this far by allowing this to stand. 

But I wouldn't worry, the owners always go about things in the proper manner, may be sorting things out in the backroom first? Like when they came to Leicester they completely redeveloped the training ground and brought in quality equipment and implemented higher quality procedures. None of us at first saw anything happening, but from other sources you hear about how they've tried to strengthen the infrastructure of the club for a healthier future rather than just chuck money at the team for instant success.

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3 minutes ago, UniFox21 said:

Must be a reason for the money issue, something might be an issue in the background, potentially tax or some other issue.

Also, I feel that if the coach publicly complains too often, he may be let go, the Thai owners don't strike me as people who have gotten this far by allowing this to stand. 

But I wouldn't worry, the owners always go about things in the proper manner, may be sorting things out in the backroom first? Like when they came to Leicester they completely redeveloped the training ground and brought in quality equipment and implemented higher quality procedures. None of us at first saw anything happening, but from other sources you hear about how they've tried to strengthen the infrastructure of the club for a healthier future rather than just chuck money at the team for instant success.

Aye they don't strike me as people that like moans to be carried out in public. They'll have their reasons as it's  not in their interest to be obstructive.

 

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Although free entry, I skipped the match yesterday, so the following is translated from the report on the official website.

The match against Dender EH (third division) ended 1-1.

 

The report:

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Summary:

Cocchiere headed in the opening goal for Dender EH. It took until ten minutes before the final whistle before Leuven could equalize: Storm cut in from the flank and beat Van Gerven. Midway through the second half, Fabre was substituted after suffering a knee injury. More bad news for coach van Wijk, who's already suffering from a shortage of players, especially in the defensive compartment. 

 

Full report:
Again lots of injury worries for van Wijk. The Amsterdammer could not use Tshimanga, Le Postollec, Lokando, Azevedo, Gorius, Maertens and Berben for the match against Dender EH. Coach van Wijk fielded an experimental defense: Jordy Gillekens and Schuermans in the middle, Daeseleire on the left side and Mertens on the right. Fabre played before the defense besides Jap Tjong. 

Cocchiere put Dender EH in the lead after nine minutes after heading in from a corner kick. OHL replied with a long distance strike from Daeseleire, which Van Gerven punched into corner. Fabre was almost able to score on the following corner kick taken by Aguemon. On the opposite side from long range Cocchiere was not too far off and Sarr curved the ball only narrowly on the wrong side of the post. In the final minutesof the first half Van Gerven saved the free kick taken by Storm.

Early in the second period, a free kick in an interesting spot was put wide  of Van Gerven's goal by Casagolda. Tarfi broke away for Dender, but his shot also went wide. Midway through the second half, Storm almost reached the goalline on his flank, his cross was headed only just wide by Kostovski. Twenty minutes before the end, Aguemon forced Van Gerwen to make a brilliant save. Just over ten minutes before the end, Storm cut in from the side and scored the equalizer at the first post.

 

Lineup OHL: Henkinet, Daeseleire, Schuermans, Fabre (69'Diarra), Mertens (59'Libert), J. Gillekens, Aguemon, Storm, Jap Tjong (59'Njengo), Kostovski, Casagolda.

 

Edited by Pelotas

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On 27.7.2017 at 08:52, Ric Flair said:

They blew a lot of money early on with us chasing the Premier League without any real plan in place. It wasn't until they binned Sven that they understood it's not just about throwing money at it. That being said the list of transfers Leuven have made is hardly very exciting. Hopefully they'll get Musa, Okazaki, Ulloa, King, Mendy and Hamer off Leicester. Job done.

I don't understand how you can come to that conclusion.

For a Belgian side in the second (!) division they are good signings on paper boasting quite some experience and skill, the question is whether they can help the team getting out of the misery, so that (the threat of) relegation is no longer the subject.

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On ‎29‎/‎07‎/‎2017 at 10:56, Pelotas said:

Today the team will play their "rehearsal" match in preparation for the new season starting next weekend.

 

Head coach Van Wijk is complaining. He states the team is not ready and five more new players are needed with priority a left wingback and a defensive midfielder. Claims "nothing is moving" on the transfer side as apparently "the new Thai owner will only transfer money in September". The team will play today with an "emergency lineup" consisting of many youngsters.

Same as at Leicester City then. Looks like Rudkin is weaving his magic again.

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22 hours ago, MC Prussian said:

I don't understand how you can come to that conclusion.

For a Belgian side in the second (!) division they are good signings on paper boasting quite some experience and skill, the question is whether they can help the team getting out of the misery, so that (the threat of) relegation is no longer the subject.

I'm judging this on their fans reaction to them, I haven't got a fcukin clue and wouldn't pretend to have.

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OHL deal has nothing to do with LCFC
King Power just want to send Thai kids to play there.
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"The company is working to increase opportunities for the Thai people to become professional football players on the global stage," Aiyawatt said. King Power also owns Belgian football club OH Leuven.

 

Young Thai players Tawin Mahajindawong and Somprasong Promsorn have been selected to play for the club in Belgium's second tier.

 

Tawin said he was glad to get this opportunity as this marks not only a new step in his life but also provides a learning experience that will improve his skills.

 

Now, Tawin is ready to show off the power of the Thai people and gain international recognition.

 

"I have Khun Aiyawatt as my role model. He successfully strengthened Leicester to win the Premier League and that has helped enhance the reputation of the Thai people," Tawin said.
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Belgium's second-tier will be broadcast live in Thailand on True Sport HD 2.

 

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Can somebody post Leuven's fixture list and tip us off when there's likely to be a stream please?

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2 hours ago, Webbo said:

Can somebody post Leuven's fixture list and tip us off when there's likely to be a stream please?

http://uk.soccerway.com/teams/belgium/fc-oud-heverlee-leuven/267/

 

Sat 12/08/17   SV Roeselare 16 : 00 OH Leuven    
Sat 19/08/17   OH Leuven 19 : 30 Cercle Brugge    
Sat 02/09/17   Westerlo 16 : 00 OH Leuven    
Fri 08/09/17   OH Leuven 19 : 30 Tubize    
Fri 15/09/17   Union Saint-Gi… 19 : 30 OH Leuven  
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Hopefully we see one day OHL and Leicester playing in the champions league final vs eachother then both get kicked out for being co-owned then King Power win the champions league as a company only for it to be stripped due to sponsorship rules and then Real Madrid get given it like every other year

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