NotTheMarketLeader Posted 8 September 2017 Posted 8 September 2017 1 hour ago, somebum said: Matty James isn't of the right quality to cope with their midfield Just him not up to scratch? Hes been better than Ndiddi so far (stats back that up). The fact is none of our midfielders are up to the right quality to cope with Chelsea man for man ;Iborra is an unknown tbf; but Shakespeare needs a plan to counteract this imbalance in this area. Tactically it's not an impossible task to overcome. The obvious move is to ensure our two CM are not outnumbered for starters like they have been this season......over to you Shakey.
st albans fox Posted 8 September 2017 Posted 8 September 2017 James and gray may be unavailable re injury - shakeys presser soon so we should get conf step up DA !!
lcfcsnow Posted 8 September 2017 Posted 8 September 2017 2 minutes ago, NotTheMarketLeader said: The fact is none of our midfielders are up to the right quality to cope with Chelsea man for man ;Iborra is an unknown tbf; but Shakespeare needs a plan to counteract this imbalance in this area. Tactically it's not an impossible task to overcome. Indeed but Stowell on the OS: “In our system, in the 4-4-2, our full-backs deal with the inside strikers and our wingers deal with their wing-backs so sometimes it’s a match-up in there. “Their shape is a good one and it’s worked well for them, but we like our shape as well and we’re comfortable in that. Hopefully it’ll be a good contest and a good match-up.”
NotTheMarketLeader Posted 8 September 2017 Posted 8 September 2017 2 minutes ago, st albans fox said: James and gray may be unavailable re injury - shakeys presser soon so we should get conf step up DA !! ****ing hell ?
NotTheMarketLeader Posted 8 September 2017 Posted 8 September 2017 1 minute ago, lcfcsnow said: Indeed but Stowell on the OS: “In our system, in the 4-4-2, our full-backs deal with the inside strikers and our wingers deal with their wing-backs so sometimes it’s a match-up in there. “Their shape is a good one and it’s worked well for them, but we like our shape as well and we’re comfortable in that. Hopefully it’ll be a good contest and a good match-up.” Who is Mahrez responsible defensively for then tomorrow, given what's been said there?
Ted Maul Posted 8 September 2017 Posted 8 September 2017 6 minutes ago, Ricey said: King vs Chelsea's midfield Beats Hammond and GTF, I suppose. Why are we always light in midfield at the start of the season?
chicagofox Posted 8 September 2017 Posted 8 September 2017 10 minutes ago, Ricey said: King vs Chelsea's midfield He'd offer more than James (which wouldn't be hard as James offers nothing).
Babylon Posted 8 September 2017 Posted 8 September 2017 21 minutes ago, NotTheMarketLeader said: Just him not up to scratch? Hes been better than Ndiddi so far (stats back that up). The fact is none of our midfielders are up to the right quality to cope with Chelsea man for man ;Iborra is an unknown tbf; but Shakespeare needs a plan to counteract this imbalance in this area. Tactically it's not an impossible task to overcome. The obvious move is to ensure our two CM are not outnumbered for starters like they have been this season......over to you Shakey. Fingers crossed Iborra is fit, would really like to see us try something a bit different. 433 with Iborra, James, N'didi and a front three of Mahrez, Vardy, Gray. Pace and skill on the break and a more solid core through the middle with Iborra sitting and clearly up in front of the defence.
Finnegan Posted 8 September 2017 Posted 8 September 2017 Why has James gone from being considered better than Drinkwater in preseason to now being worse than King without doing anything wrong? Even by foxes talk standards this is poor. He was alright against Arsenal, we lost when he went off, he was alright against Brighton. Wasn't spectacular against United but nobody was and he was in a two man midfield playing away against a better three man midfield that cost about 160m. I've got ample confidence in Ndidi and James to be a perfectly competitive Premier league central midfield tbh.
chicagofox Posted 8 September 2017 Posted 8 September 2017 11 minutes ago, Finnegan said: Why has James gone from being considered better than Drinkwater in preseason Was he? Not by many, surely.
Redouane Posted 8 September 2017 Posted 8 September 2017 40 minutes ago, Babylon said: It shouldn't, because our success was never built on having the best players. There is only so long you can keep using the same tactics and others don't begin to combat them. Neither was Atletico's, but look where they're at now
Babylon Posted 8 September 2017 Posted 8 September 2017 1 minute ago, chicagofox said: Was he? Not by many, surely. Don't think DD played that much, but James pre season was the standout CM by some distance.
chicagofox Posted 8 September 2017 Posted 8 September 2017 2 minutes ago, Babylon said: Don't think DD played that much, but James pre season was the standout CM by some distance. Fair enough.
Babylon Posted 8 September 2017 Posted 8 September 2017 1 minute ago, Redouane said: Neither was Atletico's, but look where they're at now Athletico as in, 10 time La Liga winner, 10 time Copa Del Ray winner, 3 time Champions League winner, 3 times European Cup winners? We aren't Athletico I'm afraid to say. Yes they play a certain way but they are a massive club who have far better players than us to begin with.
Redouane Posted 8 September 2017 Posted 8 September 2017 3 minutes ago, Babylon said: Athletico as in, 10 time La Liga winner, 10 time Copa Del Ray winner, 3 time Champions League winner, 3 times European Cup winners? We aren't Athletico I'm afraid to say. Yes they play a certain way but they are a massive club who have far better players than us to begin with. Yeah, those stats are nice and all but what was their biggest achievement before their 13/14 title after the 90s? Atletico became underdogs again, yet they reached countless finals and semi finals in the CL
HighPeakFox Posted 8 September 2017 Posted 8 September 2017 Oh, the E word is back, close all rational discussion.
AlloverthefloorYesNdidi Posted 8 September 2017 Posted 8 September 2017 6 minutes ago, Redouane said: Yeah, those stats are nice and all but what was their biggest achievement before their 13/14 title after the 90s? Atletico became underdogs again, yet they reached countless finals and semi finals in the CL Still, not really comparable to Leicester. 10 years or so without a big win, sounds like Arsenal
Babylon Posted 8 September 2017 Posted 8 September 2017 25 minutes ago, Redouane said: Yeah, those stats are nice and all but what was their biggest achievement before their 13/14 title after the 90s? Atletico became underdogs again, yet they reached countless finals and semi finals in the CL I appreciate what you're saying, but in 2008 we were in league one, they were finishing 4th, in the last 16 of champions league. Their "rise" started on a much more solid footing. Finishing 3rd in the league and getting the the champions league quarters in 14-15, isn't that much different to the norm for them.
goose2010 Posted 8 September 2017 Posted 8 September 2017 Huth and Iborra both still out (should paly for under 23's Monday. Dragovic could feature.
AlloverthefloorYesNdidi Posted 8 September 2017 Posted 8 September 2017 We will see the same team as usual. I do hope we try another strike partner up top for Vards. Wouldnt mind seeing Slim or Kelechi have a go
filbertway Posted 8 September 2017 Posted 8 September 2017 Jeez I'd probably go Schmeichel Simpson Maguire Dragovic Fuchs Ndidi King James Mahrez Vardy Gray However, despite all the signings and excitement and options. We'll go Schmiechel Simpson Morgan Maguire Fuchs Mahrez Ndidi James Albrighton Okazaki Vardy
kingfox Posted 8 September 2017 Posted 8 September 2017 Kasper Simpson - Morgan - Maguire - Fuchs Mahrez - AMARTEY - Ndidi - Albrighton Okazaki - Vardy Time for Amartey to step in and dictate play, watching him ping balls out wide early last season was a joy to watch, he'll make Kante look like Conference standard.
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