volpeazzurro Posted 4 September 2017 Posted 4 September 2017 Schmeichel Morgan Maguire Fuchs Albrighton Silva James Ndidi Chilwell Slimani Vardy Hamer Armarty Marhez Gray Iheanacho Simpson. Working on the premise that Huth and Iborra unfit yet and Silva cleared and fit to play. Theory being that we'll be more of a midfield match for Chelsea in midfield with Albrighton and Chilwell being industrious and capable of both playing defensively when needed but able to cross for Slimani. The other three in midfield are all capable of putting Vardy in on goal.
Hammo Posted 4 September 2017 Posted 4 September 2017 Let them feel the noise of the King Power at full throttle - just like that magical Monday night in December 2015 - and all outcomes are possible. King (or Iborra or Silva) and Iheanacho must come in for James and Okazaki - two average players who invariably struggle against quality opposition.
Spudulike Posted 4 September 2017 Posted 4 September 2017 4 hours ago, FoxinNotts said: Unchanged unless we have injuries ? Shinji is nearly always poor when returning from international duty.
CosbehFox Posted 4 September 2017 Posted 4 September 2017 4 hours ago, volpeazzurro said: Spot on! He's got nothing to lose either as we're never going to beat them using the tactics he's employed. So why not try an alternative? I remember how a completely new formation went against Chelsea last time out at home. We were absolutely tragically bad. Alongside that, the coaching staff will have at most three days with the players all together. Therefore it would be suicidal to try a completely untried formation in this scenario.
Wymsey Posted 4 September 2017 Posted 4 September 2017 Need to be wary, in particular, of Willian. His pace has caused us one or two problems in recent meetings.
kushiro Posted 4 September 2017 Posted 4 September 2017 2 hours ago, Hammo said: Let them feel the noise of the King Power at full throttle - just like that magical Monday night in December 2015 - and all outcomes are possible. King (or Iborra or Silva) and Iheanacho must come in for James and Okazaki - two average players who invariably struggle against quality opposition. 1 hour ago, Spudulike said: Shinji is nearly always poor when returning from international duty. Hilarious how many times these myths get repeated on here. Both are simply wrong.
murphy Posted 4 September 2017 Posted 4 September 2017 DIdn't Claudio used to joke that it was Shinji's brother when returning from international football as he was clearly not the same player.
Stadt Posted 4 September 2017 Posted 4 September 2017 When we got destroyed by Spurs and we really struggled to disrupt their build up, we weren't sitting off and we weren't pressing them either so they found it so easy to play into midfield, hopefully Shakey's learnt from that.
sylofox Posted 4 September 2017 Posted 4 September 2017 Shakey will want to see the new boys in training first. Also as it's an international break surely we need to see who reports back fit. Fingers crossed all the Chelsea players get kicked off the park.
volpeazzurro Posted 4 September 2017 Posted 4 September 2017 1 hour ago, Cardiff_Fox said: I remember how a completely new formation went against Chelsea last time out at home. We were absolutely tragically bad. Alongside that, the coaching staff will have at most three days with the players all together. Therefore it would be suicidal to try a completely untried formation in this scenario. You would like to think that as professionals they would be able to play more than one formation wouldn't you? If not for this game they should be able to change tactics mid game if circumstances change. If they don't do any work on this you'd have to question the quality of the coaching. Compared with last time we have better players available. The chances are that Chelsea will play a 352. Ignoring the wing backs, if we play the same team as against Man United, how do see Ndidi and James fairing against Fabregas, Bakayoko and Willian with Hazard buzzing around somewhere as well?
NotTheMarketLeader Posted 4 September 2017 Posted 4 September 2017 22 minutes ago, Wookie said: When we got destroyed by Spurs and we really struggled to disrupt their build up, we weren't sitting off and we weren't pressing them either so they found it so easy to play into midfield, hopefully Shakey's learnt from that. I am repeating myself here I know, but he needs to get three in CM in against the 'bigger teams'. It's too much to ask our 2 to go head to head with their 3. That would help win the ball back more often, give us more time in possession and if played effectively more opportunities to hit them on the break.
Spudulike Posted 4 September 2017 Posted 4 September 2017 41 minutes ago, kushiro said: Hilarious how many times these myths get repeated on here. Both are simply wrong. Short memory
the fox Posted 4 September 2017 Posted 4 September 2017 6 hours ago, volpeazzurro said: Schmeichel Morgan Maguire Fuchs Albrighton Silva James Ndidi Chilwell Slimani Vardy Hamer Armarty Marhez Gray Iheanacho Simpson. Working on the premise that Huth and Iborra unfit yet and Silva cleared and fit to play. Theory being that we'll be more of a midfield match for Chelsea in midfield with Albrighton and Chilwell being industrious and capable of both playing defensively when needed but able to cross for Slimani. The other three in midfield are all capable of putting Vardy in on goal. Can I ask why drop mahrez? Apart from the arsenal game (which he assisted the 3rd goal in) he was at worst a top 3 performer. He contributed to 60% of the team's goals and looked like his best self. He didn't show any sign of a unprofessional behavior on the pitch or outside it (he stayed in Europe in case a team bid for him)
Koke Posted 4 September 2017 Author Posted 4 September 2017 1 hour ago, kushiro said: Hilarious how many times these myths get repeated on here. Both are simply wrong. Even Ranieri implied as much. He said when Shinji comes back from International duty it is his brother we get back, implying Shinji is poor in his first game back.
volpeazzurro Posted 4 September 2017 Posted 4 September 2017 21 minutes ago, the fox said: Can I ask why drop mahrez? Apart from the arsenal game (which he assisted the 3rd goal in) he was at worst a top 3 performer. He contributed to 60% of the team's goals and looked like his best self. He didn't show any sign of a unprofessional behavior on the pitch or outside it (he stayed in Europe in case a team bid for him) I agree with you on all counts. With the exception of Arsenal, it was like having the old Ryhad back and unlike others at others clubs, he didn't throw his toys out of the pram and more than played his part. My reasoning was that initially, I don't think him best suited to this particular formation which, admittedly would offer more defensively with the ability of providing balls from the wings into Slimani and Vardy. I see Albrighton as our best crosser of the ball and would be playing on his favoured right side. Whilst slightly neieve defensively, I was impressed with Chilwell against Athletico in a more advanced position. Both for me offer more industry in these roles for me than Marhez. Quite rightly you could point to the latter's better individual's personal abilities but in 442 I fear he wouldn't get the opportunity to use them as we'd be over run again by a far superior midfield. This is not to say the system, if circumstances dictate, couldn't be changed in the second half when Marhez and Iheanacho could be introduced. Whilst I don't know what Marhez we're going to get returning to us (I'm optomistic though) and notwithstanding if he was in last year's form I'd drop him, this is an attempt at nullyfing Chelsea somewhat and not meant in any way as a slight against Ryhad. We were fortunate United didn't bang 6 past us so superior were their midfield 3 to our 2. It will be more of the same against Chelsea I fear and time to stop doing the same old every game. In a game we're expected to lose, if we do we might as well go down fighting and trying something different. If not it will be the same, Leicester gave there all, tried to frustrate and hit them on the break, but didn't manage to quite do it again. There are no points for glorious losers.
st albans fox Posted 4 September 2017 Posted 4 September 2017 1 hour ago, Wookie said: When we got destroyed by Spurs and we really struggled to disrupt their build up, we weren't sitting off and we weren't pressing them either so they found it so easy to play into midfield, hopefully Shakey's learnt from that. First 15 second half we pressed them to death 3-5-2 but then poch pulled alli back to cover chilwell and shakey couldn't work around it - they scored a third and shakey went tactically doolally afterwards
kushiro Posted 4 September 2017 Posted 4 September 2017 Just now, Koke said: Even Ranieri implied as much. He said when Shinji comes back from International duty it is his brother we get back, implying Shinji is poor in his firzt game back. But in the most recent example, he had a fantastic game straight after the international break. Stoke at home. As for his performances against top sides, under Shakespeare he's done well against Liverpool, Man City and Arsenal, but not against Man U and Spurs. Hate to reach a boring conclusion but there simply is no consistent pattern. Shinji's performance doesn't depend on a) international duty b) quality of opposition.
ZeGuy Posted 4 September 2017 Posted 4 September 2017 8 hours ago, volpeazzurro said: Schmeichel Morgan Maguire Fuchs Albrighton Silva James Ndidi Chilwell Slimani Vardy Hamer Armarty Marhez Gray Iheanacho Simpson. Working on the premise that Huth and Iborra unfit yet and Silva cleared and fit to play. Theory being that we'll be more of a midfield match for Chelsea in midfield with Albrighton and Chilwell being industrious and capable of both playing defensively when needed but able to cross for Slimani. The other three in midfield are all capable of putting Vardy in on goal. This could serioulsy work if Silva was avalaible and Shakey doesn't play "safe" for a change. Did he play for Portugal?
desertfox2 Posted 4 September 2017 Posted 4 September 2017 2 hours ago, the fox said: Can I ask why drop mahrez? Apart from the arsenal game (which he assisted the 3rd goal in) he was at worst a top 3 performer. He contributed to 60% of the team's goals and looked like his best self. He didn't show any sign of a unprofessional behavior on the pitch or outside it (he stayed in Europe in case a team bid for him) Mahrez has to play. I reckon we might lose him in Jan though. When he will be non european cup tied. Someone is bound to have an injury or suspension and he may even get his dream move then. Surely he must realize that he will then be one of the best players available that isn't cup tied for Champions league so as long as he knuckles down and plays like he did in the title winning side, someone will want to take him and pay big for him.
volpeazzurro Posted 4 September 2017 Posted 4 September 2017 46 minutes ago, ZeGuy said: This could serioulsy work if Silva was avalaible and Shakey doesn't play "safe" for a change. Did he play for Portugal? He was on the subs bench I believe but didn't come on, but I only got that off here somewhere. If he was on the bench then presumably his rib can't be broken? In fairness Shakey may want to introduce him in slowly. The same probably goes for Iborra though I think he may do well in the area just in front of and protecting the back three. They probably both will need a bit of time to get used to the pace of our game and perhaps we need a bit of patience.
Realist Guy In The Room Posted 4 September 2017 Posted 4 September 2017 Shakey will go into the game like he does all of the big teams. It'll be containing, backs against the wall stuff all the way until they're comfortably ahead at which point we'll throw the kitchen sink at them and ultimately dream of what might have been. Soz.
chicagofox Posted 4 September 2017 Posted 4 September 2017 25 minutes ago, Realist Guy In The Room said: Shakey will go into the game like he does all of the big teams. It'll be containing, backs against the wall stuff all the way until they're comfortably ahead at which point we'll throw the kitchen sink at them and ultimately dream of what might have been. Soz. This is sad but true. Dragivic should start. Iborra if fit and Silva if signed should start. Ihenacho should start. But I won't be surprised at all if it's the same 11 who lost to the other two top-six teams we've played this season. Good old-fashioned 4-4-2 where we get overrun in midfield, and some City fans cling to the fact that we only lost by a few goals as some sort of positive.
Guest TaggertvsWise Posted 4 September 2017 Posted 4 September 2017 On 9/3/2017 at 22:59, walkerleeds said: Morgan was very good against Man United, why would you drop him? Actually I missed that he had been replaced in that line up, blame the wine... Yes good shout keep Morgan in the starting deck.
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 4 September 2017 Posted 4 September 2017 Attack attack attack feeder club or not let's give them a game
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