Unpopular Opinions You Hold

[Daggers]

Just now, Finnegan said:

 

Tell me about your favourite new vegan recipes. 

All of my favourites tend to include chicken.

[ealingfox]

13 minutes ago, Daggers said:

I now own a hybrid.

 

Good for yewww!

[UpTheLeagueFox]

13 hours ago, bovril said:

Every day is an amazing time be a football fan if you support Leicester, even if we finish mid table this season. 

Spot on.

 

PS. I've not ventured into the Football section of FT in the past 24 hours because I suspect it's the usual OTT carnage which isn't good for anyone's wellbeing.

[ealingfox]

33 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

I think I'd say they're two sides of the same coin without being as aggressive about it, to be honest. I sort of agree, I think there's a smug, self-satisfied undercurrent to the Safehouse that probably wasn't intended when it was first made.

 

I think there needs to be a bit more tolerance for the fact that we're all quite clearly emotionally invested in football and Leicester City. Probably to a level that a lot of people in our personal lives probably think is excessive and maybe a bit silly. I know my missus just can't relate when I'm lobbing the remote across the room and storming off in a huff because we've conceded a ridiculous fourth, I know my dad's missus thinks he's equally ridiculous and has a good chuckle at his case of the mardies. I imagine a lot of you experience the same.

 

Foxestalk is supposed to be a place where we're all City, that cuts both ways. It should mean less attacking each other but it should also mean more tolerance for each other's obsession. I mean we're all here with thousands of posts talking about the club, all day and night, 24/365 because we care a hell of a lot. We should be emotionally invested.

 

To that end, I don't really care how theatrical and over the top the match threads get. I know I get drawn in to it myself. I can forgive all the hysteria afterwards as well, when you know five or six different people are going to start melodramatic threads preaching about how there's a need for drastic change. 

At the end of the day, these people are just hurting and need to process. If part of your process is ranting on the internet for a few hours while you come to terms with things? I mean, that's alright really isn't it? Given that domestic violence cases go up by something like 25% minimum when England play and about 40% when they lose, we should probably be happy that folk are just crying with their fellow nerds on the internet instead of venting their frustrations more physically on people they love. Because, that's how passionately some people feel about the sport.

 

I agree that Foxestalk can get ridiculous, when it's midweek, people have had time to calm down, and they're STILL trying to convince you that Rodgers needs to be sacked, that Vardy is finished, that Tielemans is crap or that Cags is just a liability? Yeah, okay, they're idiots. But in the heat of the moment after a painful loss? Let people have their moment to let off steam.

 

But equally, and this is important too, if how you process is trying to distance yourself emotionally, find a bit of zen and convince yourself that those over-reacting are a bit foolish then that's alright too. Better they be doing it in an easily-avoided, separate thread in a completely different part of the forum riffing about quiche, crumpets and tea than just openly rowing with everyone in the main forum.

 

Bottom line, whatever people need, if they're not hurting anyone - just let them be. We all work through pain in different ways and I imagine we can all agree that last night's result was pretty painful.

 

I don't disagree with any of this, and I should qualify my original point by adding that I actually dont find the match and post-match threads particularly pathetic or embarrassing at all, largely in line with the reasons you've gone through. It's to be expected. If we've been shit then why would it not be OK to say so? There's the odd silly post here and there but it's really 1 in 50 stuff and sometimes tongue-in-cheek anyway, nowhere near enough to characterise the whole as some kind of dystopian wasteland. So by the same dint the Safehouse is just as bad, but that's not to say I find it especially outrageous either.

 

I guess it just makes me cringe that the bar you have to clear to set these people off is barely off the floor. Someone describes a player or the teams performance as shit, when that is a perfectly accurate assessment, and its 'omg stop having such a meltdown it's 1 game have some pErSpEcTiVe'. As you say it smacks of smugness and carrying on as if you're the adult in the room, when you're in another thread pretending to be living in an imaginary house - well you have to roll your eyes don't you.

[bovril]

Just now, ealingfox said:

 

I don't disagree with any of this, and I should qualify my original point by adding that I actually dont find the match and post-match threads particularly pathetic or embarrassing at all, largely in line with the reasons you've gone through. It's to be expected. If we've been shit then why would it not be OK to say so? There's the odd silly post here and there but it's really 1 in 50 stuff and sometimes tongue-in-cheek anyway, nowhere near enough to characterise the whole as some kind of dystopian wasteland. So by the same dint the Safehouse is just as bad, but that's not to say I find it especially outrageous either.

 

I guess it just makes me cringe that the bar you have to clear to set these people off is barely off the floor. Someone describes a player or the teams performance as shit, when that is a perfectly accurate assessment, and its 'omg stop having such a meltdown it's 1 game have some pErSpEcTiVe'. As you say it smacks of smugness and carrying on as if you're the adult in the room, when you're in another thread pretending to be living in an imaginary house - well you have to roll your eyes don't you.

This is just a reflection of the internet in general. These kinds of exchanges would never happen in real life.

 

Just to add I also find the safehouse a bit cringey, but mostly for the 'get the kettle on' type posts. 

[Buce]

1 hour ago, Carl the Llama said:

Let me just get this straight.  You hope that I am the Llama described as having sweets stuffed into its anus and beaten with sticks by children?  You sick fvck.  Mods!

 

Does it remind you of school?

[Finnegan]

10 minutes ago, bovril said:

This is just a reflection of the internet in general. These kinds of exchanges would never happen in real life.

 

Just to add I also find the safehouse a bit cringey, but mostly for the 'get the kettle on' type posts. 

 

To be honest, I'd be much happier if it was just limited to ACTUALLY following sports teams.

 

The fact that that's how the internet is encouraging the modern world to relate to their political and social issues as well is infinitely more depressing. 

[Stadt]

15 minutes ago, ealingfox said:

As you say it smacks of smugness and carrying on as if you're the adult in the room, when you're in another thread pretending to be living in an imaginary house - well you have to roll your eyes don't you.

Perfect  

 

People like feeling superior to other people. 50% of the safehouse thread is well, we're not silly reactionaries are we! I can't deal with histrionics and the meltdowns. 

[leicsmac]

1 minute ago, Stadt said:

Perfect  

 

People like feeling superior to other people. 50% of the safehouse thread is well, we're not silly reactionaries are we! I can't deal with histrionics and the meltdowns. 

Tbh there's a practical argument for not being reactionary in most walks of life. Perhaps not when it comes to "only" football, though.

 

With the larger topic of the Internet and interactions on it, I'm still inclined to think that for all the shit that happens on there it is a net good for the reason that it allows access to information - sometimes critical information - in a way that simply wouldn't be possible otherwise. And the future of humanity will come down to not only how we act upon what we know, but what we know in the first place.

[Voll Blau]

7 minutes ago, Stadt said:

Perfect  

 

People like feeling superior to other people. 50% of the safehouse thread is well, we're not silly reactionaries are we! I can't deal with histrionics and the meltdowns. 

It's not the only thread where that attitude pervades either...

[Stadt]

1 minute ago, leicsmac said:

Tbh there's a practical argument for not being reactionary in most walks of life. Perhaps not when it comes to "only" football, though.

 

With the larger topic of the Internet and interactions on it, I'm still inclined to think that for all the shit that happens on there it is a net good for the reason that it allows access to information - sometimes critical information - in a way that simply wouldn't be possible otherwise. And the future of humanity will come down to not only how we act upon what we know, but what we know in the first place.

Football is a reactionary game, if fans viewed it completely rationally then very few would watch it.

[Carl the Llama]

I believe there is a difference between making nasty remarks and being understandably upset at a bad result and performance.  You can be the latter without engaging in the former.  If that makes me smug then clearly I'm better than you.

[leicsmac]

19 minutes ago, Stadt said:

Football is a reactionary game, if fans viewed it completely rationally then very few would watch it.

Definitely true.

 

 

It's just important to not have the reactionary part bleed into other areas of life - Finn makes a decent point or two about how that can happen above.

[bovril]

reactive not reactionary surely

[leicsmac]

29 minutes ago, bovril said:

reactive not reactionary surely

In this context and indulging in some pedantry, yeah, you're right.

[Buce]

1 hour ago, leicsmac said:

In this context and indulging in some pedantry, yeah, you're right.

 

No pedantry.

 

It was the wrong word. Period.

[filbertway]

4 hours ago, ealingfox said:

 

I don't disagree with any of this, and I should qualify my original point by adding that I actually dont find the match and post-match threads particularly pathetic or embarrassing at all, largely in line with the reasons you've gone through. It's to be expected. If we've been shit then why would it not be OK to say so? There's the odd silly post here and there but it's really 1 in 50 stuff and sometimes tongue-in-cheek anyway, nowhere near enough to characterise the whole as some kind of dystopian wasteland. So by the same dint the Safehouse is just as bad, but that's not to say I find it especially outrageous either.

 

I guess it just makes me cringe that the bar you have to clear to set these people off is barely off the floor. Someone describes a player or the teams performance as shit, when that is a perfectly accurate assessment, and its 'omg stop having such a meltdown it's 1 game have some pErSpEcTiVe'. As you say it smacks of smugness and carrying on as if you're the adult in the room, when you're in another thread pretending to be living in an imaginary house - well you have to roll your eyes don't you.

 

My god that tickled me hahaha

[Houdini Logic]

7 hours ago, ealingfox said:

The Safehouse thread is every bit as pathetic and embarrassing as the OTT posts in match and post-match threads.

I think personally it's about sharing a similar sense of humour. Pathetic, yeah maybe, but just harmless humour which is rare these days - nothing dramatic, nothing inflammatory - just some people chatting crap... and in these times where everyone has to be controversial, a hero or a troll, that's actually quite refreshing IMO

[tom27111]

As this is the Unpopular Opinion thread...

 

Whilst it doesn't mean I like West Ham in any way whatsoever, their fans rendition of 'I'm forever blowing bubbles' was far more impressive than Liverpool's "famous Kop" singing 'You'll never walk alone'.

 

Still both crap songs, but obviously relevant to each club.

[Fox92]

6 minutes ago, tom27111 said:

As this is the Unpopular Opinion thread...

 

Whilst it doesn't mean I like West Ham in any way whatsoever, their fans rendition of 'I'm forever blowing bubbles' was far more impressive than Liverpool's "famous Kop" singing 'You'll never walk alone'.

 

Still both crap songs, but obviously relevant to each club.

They aren't bad songs. I'd love to have an anthem like theirs and belt it out as good as they do. Same with Marching On Together at Leeds. 

[tom27111]

Just now, Fox92 said:

They aren't bad songs. I'd love to have an anthem like theirs and belt it out as good as they do. Same with Marching On Together at Leeds. 

 

Yeah, would be great to have an anthem like that. Dare I say, even Forest have got one and sound good with a full house.

 

Sorry 

[Nalis]

31 minutes ago, tom27111 said:

 

Yeah, would be great to have an anthem like that. Dare I say, even Forest have got one and sound good with a full house.

 

Sorry 

Whats the Forest one?

[Nalis]

Blue Moon is decent at full voice too

[Nalis]

Surely research into the impact and correlation of heading the ball and dementia for players who played in the 60s and 70s is only valid then rather than now? The weight, denseness and design of the ball has evolved massively since then.

[tom27111]

24 minutes ago, Nalis said:

Whats the Forest one?

An altered version of Mull of Kintyre..."Mist rolling in from the Trent"

 

Something along those lines.

 

My ex was a season ticket holder. I actually went with her a few times. I took great joy in them being absolutely shite 

 

Always wondered why they run out to Born Slippy, by Underworld though? 

 

One thing that is great about us is the Post Horn Gallop, even if we don't have an anthem.