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Posted
23 minutes ago, Wymsey said:

I agree; although I wouldn't necessarily deem this as an unpopular viewpoint.

Can remember when Perez score a goal in a game and some on this forum felt he was quite poor in certain situations away from the goal.

I'm not sure if it's unpopular or more the fact people don't realise they are doing it. Or the aren't watching or paying attention to the game, so they base their opinion solely on the stats and scorers.

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Posted (edited)
22 hours ago, Facecloth said:

Oh and another football related one. Scoring a goal doesn't automatically mean the player has a had a good game. You can be completely useless for a whole match and get a tap in. That tap in doesn't erase all the poor play the rest of the 90 minutes. I don't think Albrighton played that well today. Got a goal, the winner, and that's great, but he also didn't play very well. Both can happen. 

While this is true, 9 times out of 10 goals outweigh the negative play from that player in terms of how much it affected whether you win lose or draw a game of football. And how much you contribute to your side winning a game is ultimately what matters.

 

Not always of course, though I think Albrighton yesterday is a good example of when it does.

 

I think conversely, people often overrate "general play" over the actual generally very few key moments of play which often affect a football game. A player who misses 4 risky passes but plays 1 beautiful pass which sets up a goal will often get called "sloppy in possession" while a player who makes 5 safe passes which don't make a difference will often get praised more by fans even when they had nowhere near the positive affect on the game.

 

Bruno Fernandes is a great example of a player who takes risks and is often called sloppy or poor on the ball, but who makes a massive positive impact on his side because he makes 1 or 2 chance creating passes other players can't every game.

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Posted
5 hours ago, Sampson said:

While this is true, 9 times out of 10 goals outweigh the negative play from that player in terms of how much it affected whether you win lose or draw a game of football. And how much you contribute to your side winning a game is ultimately what matters.

 

Not always of course, though I think Albrighton yesterday is a good example of when it does.

 

I think conversely, people often overrate "general play" over the actual generally very few key moments of play which often affect a football game. A player who misses 4 risky passes but plays 1 beautiful pass which sets up a goal will often get called "sloppy in possession" while a player who makes 5 safe passes which don't make a difference will often get praised more by fans even when they had nowhere near the positive affect on the game.

 

Bruno Fernandes is a great example of a player who takes risks and is often called sloppy or poor on the ball, but who makes a massive positive impact on his side because he makes 1 or 2 chance creating passes other players can't every game.

I think this is particularly true of strikers.

 

I remember Michael Owen doing nothing in the Liverpool Arsenal 2001 FA Cup Final except for scoring those two goals to win it for Liverpool. Those goals probably turned his performance from a 4/10 to a 9/10.

Posted
15 minutes ago, Buce said:

 

I've no idea who you are but I like you already.

I've been away for a long time but this is an eternal mantra

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Posted
2 hours ago, Finnegan said:

 

Where the fvck have you been hiding!? 

That's a long fvcking story.

Posted
8 hours ago, Finnegan said:

Callum Hudson Odoi is only marginally better than Ademola Lookman. 

I would argue that they are on the same level. I can't work out the difference in reaction personally. My theory is people on here don't watch more football and are feeding into the Skysports narrative that because he's coming from a 'big six' club he must be amazing. 

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Posted

“Costa Coffee is a British coffeehouse chain”

 

Should could it coffeealike or coffeeish. There’s no way the watery slop I had this morning deserves the title coffee.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Daggers said:

“Costa Coffee is a British coffeehouse chain”

 

Should could it coffeealike or coffeeish. There’s no way the watery slop I had this morning deserves the title coffee.

 

Their flat whites are decent.

Posted

People who turn up and use Accident and Emergency departments for minor things such as scratch on the head or being drunk should be made to pay for using the service.

 

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Posted
2 hours ago, Wymsey said:

People who turn up and use Accident and Emergency departments for minor things such as scratch on the head or being drunk should be made to pay for using the service.

 

You need "The common sense and practical things you think should happen" thread.

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Posted
2 hours ago, Wymsey said:

People who turn up and use Accident and Emergency departments for minor things such as scratch on the head or being drunk should be made to pay for using the service.

 

Some people have a poor understanding of what constitutes 'minor'. Unfortunately this is also true the other way round, where people who have a serious problem brush it off as 'minor'. Charging for minor issues would make these people even less likely to seek help.

Posted
3 hours ago, Wymsey said:

People who turn up and use Accident and Emergency departments for minor things such as scratch on the head or being drunk should be made to pay for using the service.

 

I can't agree with this. People's perceptions are very different. I agree that minor things to most can be seen as an inconvenience to the health service, but we need to treat everyone who presents themselves if we can, regardless of the necessity. Educate them while they are there and hope that they will choose their GP next time, but not charge them. 

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Posted

Why can't hospitals have someone assessing people when they first come into A&E? That way if it's too minor they can be directed to another department, or told what to do at home and to go to the pharmacy for whatever they need. 

 

Do hospitals have a "minor injuries" type walk-in clinic? 

Posted
55 minutes ago, The Bear said:

Why can't hospitals have someone assessing people when they first come into A&E? That way if it's too minor they can be directed to another department, or told what to do at home and to go to the pharmacy for whatever they need. 

 

Do hospitals have a "minor injuries" type walk-in clinic? 

Yes they do. It's called "minor injuries unit". Patients arrive (sometimes by ambulance)! and are assessed by a nurse practitioner, a more experienced and qualified person than the general A&E nurse might be but not with doctor qualifications. They can assess the patient and then organise any necessary examinations such as x-ray or advise appropriately, including prescribing meds for the patient to take to their pharmacy and then discharge the patient without them having ever seen a doctor.

LRI has such a clinic as does Loughborough General and most bigger hospitals across the country.

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Posted (edited)
53 minutes ago, pmcla26 said:


 

People don’t seem to start at the bottom of the ladder, they jump half way up and then go from there. 

In my experience this is true in lot's of cases. Some people have learnt or realised the 999 system of assessment of a 999 call and will use responses to the triage questions in order to get a higher priority of 999 response or an ambulance assessment because they can't get a doctor's appointment and they want something immediately. For example: are you having difficulty in breathing? Pt has a simple cough but responds "yes". This and many other responses, generate an immediate category 1 response, often inappropriately, but we can't take the chance and that's why ambulance services are so often overwhelmed. I could relate hundreds of inappropriate calls. Problem is, they only become inappropriate once the ambulance in on scene and assesses the patient.

 

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Posted
2 hours ago, Parafox said:

Yes they do. It's called "minor injuries unit". Patients arrive (sometimes by ambulance)! and are assessed by a nurse practitioner, a more experienced and qualified person than the general A&E nurse might be but not with doctor qualifications. They can assess the patient and then organise any necessary examinations such as x-ray or advise appropriately, including prescribing meds for the patient to take to their pharmacy and then discharge the patient without them having ever seen a doctor.

LRI has such a clinic as does Loughborough General and most bigger hospitals across the country.

When I lobbed the end of my finger off I got sent to minor injuries. It was absolutely awesome I got seen in about 20 minutes and had 3 follow up appointments booked for the three consecutive days after at a time when they had their “clinic”.
 

Best bit hands down though was telling a different G4S guard every day who looked after the line at A+E when I went back that yes you clearly can get an appointment at A+E and no I didn’t have to queue. Every time the nurse told them I was right was such a nice feeling.   

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