Unpopular Opinions You Hold

[Jimothy]

4 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

I see where you're coming from.

 

However, as right as it is that it is pretty much solely in the hands of world governments, as far as I'm concerned they're either going to act in time or not - what these protestors do is immaterial, other than, as you say, being an damned annoyance to the public. I don't actually think targetting the government would help on that one either.

 

That's what I mean when I say to look at the message, not the messenger, because these messengers actually have zero bearing on what is going to be done or not done about this IMO. The facts are as they are, people gluing themselves to pavements won't change them, so world governments have a simple choice with the data in hand - do what is necessary or not.

Exactly you are making my point for me. Them gluing themselves to things won't change anything but annoy the very people they want on their side. And as me and @Wymseyare pointing out, I'm less likely to listen to your message if you ruin my day, I'm just gonna roll my eyes and tell you to piss off.

 

So not only are they not getting to the governments who can make the changes, they are alienating the very people they want on their side to help their fight. They achieve nothing.

[leicsmac]

Just now, Facecloth said:

Exactly you are making my point for me. Them gluing themselves to things won't change anything but annoy the very people they want on their side. And as me and @Wymseyare pointing out, I'm less likely to listen to your message if you ruin my day, I'm just gonna roll my eyes and tell you to piss off.

 

So not only are they not getting to the governments who can make the changes, they are alienating the very people they want on their side to help their fight. They achieve nothing.

Yep, I agree.

 

Which is why I said that folks really should be paying more attention to the problem at hand, rather than these idiots.

 

I think there is general consensus here on the lack of utility of these folks but perhaps not on their level of responsibility for not enough getting done right now and for events should everything end up going tits-up (which it will if nothing is done). My own opinion on that is somewhere between very little and none.

[Stadt]

47 minutes ago, pmcla26 said:

How can you be underrated if you're regarded as the two best in the world? Surely there's no higher rating that they could have?  

Just how good they are is under appreciated. They're not just a smidgen better than others

[Jimothy]

1 hour ago, leicsmac said:

Yep, I agree.

 

Which is why I said that folks really should be paying more attention to the problem at hand, rather than these idiots.

 

I think there is general consensus here on the lack of utility of these folks but perhaps not on their level of responsibility for not enough getting done right now and for events should everything end up going tits-up (which it will if nothing is done). My own opinion on that is somewhere between very little and none.

I think they do more damage than good though on you insistence people pay more attention to the issue at hand. People don't just not listen when these tactics are used, they are often likely to fight against it. Just look at brexit, never underestimate the human races ability to shoot itself in the foot because they don't like being told they are wrong or what to do. Covid too, both lockdown and the vaccine. The problem will always be associated with these idiots so they really need to step away from these tactics. 

[leicsmac]

9 hours ago, Facecloth said:

I think they do more damage than good though on you insistence people pay more attention to the issue at hand. People don't just not listen when these tactics are used, they are often likely to fight against it. Just look at brexit, never underestimate the human races ability to shoot itself in the foot because they don't like being told they are wrong or what to do. Covid too, both lockdown and the vaccine. The problem will always be associated with these idiots so they really need to step away from these tactics. 

Again, I don't disagree with the take on human psychology here - it's accurate.

 

My point is that the laws of thermodynamics don't really care much about that very human foible and IMO that irrationality can't be used as an excuse to escape culpability for current and future times.

 

Put it this way....fast forward a few decades, to a world in vastly reduced circumstances. If I were living there and had the full facts of the situation, I'd certainly be looking for someone to blame for it. And thinking about it, I would be blaming the politicians who didn't do enough, the protestors who invalidated the idea of change....and the people who let their irrationality allow them to be apathetic about it all too. (As well as those who didn't think long term). In short, a lot of people.

 

Of course, the average person on the street doesn't like the idea that they might be (in a small way) personally responsible for a future that is vastly reduced in terms of both population and living standards, but as far as I'm concerned that would be true - at least to those who are left.

 

Perhaps that's overly harsh or judgemental or overlooking the power disparity that exists in the world today...but honestly, while positive psychology (rather than the negative as these protestors are engaging in) would be useful in getting the job done, the primary thing is that the job gets done at all - one way or another. As I said above, the Earth isn't going to entertain our irrationality.

 

And that right there is probably an unpopular opinion in itself.

Edited 20 April 2022 by leicsmac

[Daggers]

I dislike people who whine about climate protesters more than I dislike climate protestors. 

[Asha]

So there was a minutes applause in the 7th minute for Ronaldo because his son tragically died. Obviously the intentions are good, but how is that in any way appropriate? 
 

Applause? Really? 
 

A minutes’ silence before the game would have been much more fitting I think. 

[SemperEadem]

10 minutes ago, Asha said:

So there was a minutes applause in the 7th minute for Ronaldo because his son tragically died. Obviously the intentions are good, but how is that in any way appropriate? 
 

Applause? Really? 
 

A minutes’ silence before the game would have been much more fitting I think. 

You would assume the applause is preferred in this fixture as a minutes silence could possibly be sabotaged.

[Finnegan]

It's arbitrary anyway isn't it? 

 

It could be a minute of everyone doing jumping jacks or the okey kokey. 

 

At what point did we decide that being quiet was showing respect and clapping was celebrating life? 

 

The physical gesture is meaningless, the intent and context are what give it weight. Its quite obviously a well meaning show of support and I'm sure that would be appreciated by Ronaldo and his family. It's only inappropriate if you're looking to pick fault. 

[Sampson]

3 hours ago, Daggers said:

I dislike people who whine about climate protesters more than I dislike climate protestors. 

Yeah. Same with vegans. Not a vegan myself but people who whine about vegans are way more annoying and overbearing than any vegan trying to push veganism onto you, I’ve found.

[Daggers]

2 hours ago, Finnegan said:

It could be a minute of everyone doing jumping jacks or the okey kokey. 

I'm amending the list of instructions for my funeral as I type.

[Daggers]

"As a keen fan of the Hokey Cokey and Jumping Jacks, Dave's last wish was that we should now spend the next five minutes..."

[Finnegan]

I'll be front and centre Dave. 

 

I just can't promise I'll get to forty seconds without collapsing. 

[Daggers]

48 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

I just can't promise I'll get to forty seconds without collapsing. 

*Describe my sex life without describing my sex life

[Nalis]

Hope Man U get top 4 over Arsenal and Spurs

[BenTheFox]

Boxing is more boring than Bass fishing. 

[Silebyfox_89]

Chocolate cake is a terrible dessert.

[SouthStandUpperTier]

1 minute ago, Silebyfox_89 said:

Chocolate cake is a terrible dessert.

That's ok I only have it as a starter or main course.

[SemperEadem]

Its now trendy to hate the Liverpool teams as a Leicester fan. Our first year back up in prem no one gave them a second thought.

[Parafox]

20 hours ago, BenTheFox said:

Boxing DAY is more boring than Bass fishing. 

Fixed 

[RumbleFox]

Going to games doesn’t make you a better fan. 

[Soar Fox]

29 minutes ago, SemperEadem said:

Its now trendy to hate the Liverpool teams as a Leicester fan. Our first year back up in prem no one gave them a second thought.

Didn’t have a dislikable manager back then did they 

[Sampson]

31 minutes ago, RumbleFox said:

Going to games doesn’t make you a better fan. 

Agreed, especially with living costs right now or if like myself you used to have a season ticket years ago but you’ve long moved away from Leicestershire. It’s a bizarre form of gatekeeping.

 

Couldn’t believe people mocking ManCity fans for not filling their end at Wembley with the economy the way it is.

 

Totally agree with this tweet.

 

 

[foxile5]

1 hour ago, Sampson said:

Agreed, especially with living costs right now or if like myself you used to have a season ticket years ago but you’ve long moved away from Leicestershire. It’s a bizarre form of gatekeeping.

 

Couldn’t believe people mocking ManCity fans for not filling their end at Wembley with the economy the way it is.

 

Totally agree with this tweet.

 

 

Wasn't there a Premier league club that said they don't rely on fan entry money anymore? It's just egregious profiteering at the top of the pyramid that doesn't HAVE to happen to keep clubs afloat. 

[bovril]

2 hours ago, SemperEadem said:

Its now trendy to hate the Liverpool teams as a Leicester fan. Our first year back up in prem no one gave them a second thought.

I've always hated the *****. 

 

2 hours ago, RumbleFox said:

Going to games doesn’t make you a better fan. 

Correct. And the transport costs are what put me off the most. We have a bit of a thing about empty seats in this country which is ironic because it's more expensive to travel to and buy tickets for games here than anywhere else.