Daggers Posted 16 October 2017 Share Posted 16 October 2017 It will be the worst of all worlds - he’ll be given more time, he’ll fail, and nobody will have thought to sound out any bloody replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 16 October 2017 Share Posted 16 October 2017 Just now, Johnthefoxrayner said: No we need 6points from the next 2 games 4 points from those games is enough for him to keep his position. Not a chance the owners will be expecting two wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 16 October 2017 Share Posted 16 October 2017 Just now, Daggers said: It will be the worst of all worlds - he’ll be given more time, he’ll fail, and nobody will have thought to sound out any bloody replacement. I have zero faith in those in charge to pick a good manager. Thry have been massively lucky, they won't think outside the box of 65 year old international managers in or out of work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted 16 October 2017 Share Posted 16 October 2017 2 minutes ago, Johnthefoxrayner said: No we need 6points from the next 2 games Someone said tonight was must win if not Shakespeare out, someone else then replied to them saying that if it had gone that far then time is up. I'm going to say this to you now, if we're getting to the stage of asking the question then action needs taking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozman Posted 16 October 2017 Share Posted 16 October 2017 I hate to say it but it's got fat Sam written all over this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lgfualol Posted 16 October 2017 Share Posted 16 October 2017 Out along with whoever gave him a 2 year contract. He's pretty much a P.E teacher I think. The players on the first 8 games this season don't seem to take him seriously or know what they're doing. Half the team probably tell Shakespeare they are going to play, rather than the other way around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnthefoxrayner Posted 16 October 2017 Share Posted 16 October 2017 2 minutes ago, Babylon said: 4 points from those games is enough for him to keep his position. Not a chance the owners will be expecting two wins. Point taken, but we need to get a winning strength going, don't get me wrong I love my club just like everyone else, however we are or could find ourselves in a relegation battle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winteriscoming Posted 16 October 2017 Share Posted 16 October 2017 Hes to reactive rather than being proactive. In the second half he looked like he was writing stuff down then checking with the other coaches before making a sub. It seems like he hasnt got confidence in himself. The bottom line is we won't win enough games with him in charge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Walsh5 Posted 16 October 2017 Share Posted 16 October 2017 Does anyone really trust the idiots we have running the club to make the right appointment if we do sack Shakespeare? They would sack him and not have a clue who to go for. They’d try and go for a big name, Hiddink, Ancelloti, Van Gaal get rejected by them all then it would be a panic appointment and end up with Moyes or Appleton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livid Posted 16 October 2017 Share Posted 16 October 2017 Out. He’s been shafted by the club and holds a poor hand but he’s doing himself no favours. When I saw that team I was actually optimistic. I think it took 25 minutes to realise we had no pattern of play or any idea about how we were going to break them down. Those 11 starters should have been capable of much better than what we saw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daggers Posted 16 October 2017 Share Posted 16 October 2017 3 minutes ago, Babylon said: I have zero faith in those in charge to pick a good manager. Thry have been massively lucky, they won't think outside the box of 65 year old international managers in or out of work. I thought it’d be a bit much if I started demanding the sacking of Creg’s replacement already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnthefoxrayner Posted 16 October 2017 Share Posted 16 October 2017 3 minutes ago, Steve_Walsh5 said: Does anyone really trust the idiots we have running the club to make the right appointment if we do sack Shakespeare? They would sack him and not have a clue who to go for. They’d try and go for a big name, Hiddink, Ancelloti, Van Gaal get rejected by them all then it would be a panic appointment and end up with Moyes or Appleton. You didn't mention Nigel Pearson, I know it might sound daft but I can see that happening, he has obviously made up with the owners that's why he is managing OH LEVRUN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnthefoxrayner Posted 16 October 2017 Share Posted 16 October 2017 5 minutes ago, Livid said: Out. He’s been shafted by the club and holds a poor hand but he’s doing himself no favours. When I saw that team I was actually optimistic. I think it took 25 minutes to realise we had no pattern of play or any idea about how we were going to break them down. Those 11 starters should have been capable of much better than what we saw. Agreed ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Walsh5 Posted 16 October 2017 Share Posted 16 October 2017 2 minutes ago, Johnthefoxrayner said: You didn't mention Nigel Pearson, I know it might sound daft but I can see that happening, he has obviously made up with the owners that's why he is managing OH LEVRUN I love Pearson for all he’s done here. But if he did get reappointed it would show how shoddy they are really run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnthefoxrayner Posted 16 October 2017 Share Posted 16 October 2017 2 minutes ago, Steve_Walsh5 said: I love Pearson for all he’s done here. But if he did get reappointed it would show how shoddy they are really run. I take your point, but who else is out there that could do a job for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Walsh5 Posted 16 October 2017 Share Posted 16 October 2017 1 minute ago, Johnthefoxrayner said: I take your point, but who else is out there that could do a job for us. Might be an unpopular opinion on here but my preferred choice would be Sam Allardyce. We would be organised, tough to beat and like Pearson he was a big fan of sports science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inckley fox Posted 16 October 2017 Share Posted 16 October 2017 I'll vote 'stay', but I think you'll have to do a poll like this each week until he either goes or gets better. Things have to get better soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inckley fox Posted 16 October 2017 Share Posted 16 October 2017 16 minutes ago, Matt said: Someone said tonight was must win if not Shakespeare out, someone else then replied to them saying that if it had gone that far then time is up. I'm going to say this to you now, if we're getting to the stage of asking the question then action needs taking. We've asked the question before and been wrong. On at least three occasions with Pearson. On one with O'Neill too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendi Posted 16 October 2017 Share Posted 16 October 2017 Shakespeare isn't a manager. Get in someone who knows how to manage a team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tielemans63 Posted 16 October 2017 Share Posted 16 October 2017 This might sound really harsh but the King substitution said it all for me. The 92nd minute of a game we're looking to win, we're defending a free kick in a dangerous position and he brings on Andy King for purely sentimental reasons- what's the ****ing point in that? Could've brought on Shinji and gone for broke. Kingy is not going to produce some towering defensive header or score a winner on the break. Utterly pointless, sentimental switch. Too soft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inckley fox Posted 16 October 2017 Share Posted 16 October 2017 14 minutes ago, Livid said: Out. He’s been shafted by the club and holds a poor hand but he’s doing himself no favours. When I saw that team I was actually optimistic. I think it took 25 minutes to realise we had no pattern of play or any idea about how we were going to break them down. Those 11 starters should have been capable of much better than what we saw. Yes, he has been royally shafted by the Silva business, so if he takes the first bullet there'll be a lot of angry people at the club. With an international break just a few games away, I'd give him the chance to extend the unbeaten run and perhaps look for answers in different places. You should pause before making a clean break from the staff behind our success. After all, he achieved his objectives last season and isn't really to blame for the ridiculous shortfall of personnel in midfield. We saw a change in shape late on today. Shakespeare depends too heavily on establishing consensus, but perhaps he can shift that consensus after tonight. Maybe they'll acknowledge the need for a longer-term change in shape and get behind it. And maybe his authority isn't what it should be, and he needed to wait for a moment like that to implement a change. It may have been a long time coming, but perhaps a change achieved that way will be more successful than what happens when a new boss comes in, with his own ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LestaAl Posted 16 October 2017 Share Posted 16 October 2017 Out....he should go after the Spurs match which gives him time to prove me wrong! ... and the owners time to get the replacement lined up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldeagle Posted 16 October 2017 Share Posted 16 October 2017 Sorry to say it but he needs to go . It’s not so much the fact we are not picking up points it’s more the manner in which we are playing or should I say not playing football . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suffolk fox Posted 16 October 2017 Share Posted 16 October 2017 out the man is clearly out of his depth one win in 14 premier league games is relegation form. Sack him I have seen enough. Everyone back for a corner, players too static and slow. Too big a gap between Vardy and the rest of the team Inheacho playing like a lost schoolboy in the big boys playground players frightened to take on a man and try and beat him for speed. Great Coach maybe premier league manager he is not. He is fat and round and he is taking us down Craig Shakespeare Craig Shakespeare and repeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapero82 Posted 16 October 2017 Share Posted 16 October 2017 We will get a new manager in 14 secs too late Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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