Parafox Posted 29 October 2017 Posted 29 October 2017 For me, I've seen the terminally ill from whatever cause, old age, illness, substance abuse etc. Really, I wouldn't want to suffer like that but on the other hand, I don't want to die. How does anyone come to an agreed decision about their own life and the effect it would have on loved ones if you wanted to end your suffering? It is widely seen as being selfish to want to end ones own life, but is it really? Is it selfish to deter someone from ending their life because it would have an horrendous emotional impact on you?
davieG Posted 29 October 2017 Posted 29 October 2017 I'd like to think that if I was a massive burden on someone restricting them from enjoying their life that I'd have the balls to say that's enough.
VLC86 Posted 29 October 2017 Posted 29 October 2017 In a serious answer to the question it is an almost impossible question to answer until you are in so much pain that you want to end it all. Such a difficult subject to say because would you want your wife/husband suffering to an inevitable painful death or give them the dignity of doing it before that happens.
Carl the Llama Posted 29 October 2017 Posted 29 October 2017 There are definitely realistic scenarios where I would absolutely approve of it. The tricky thing is making a law that isn't open to abuse.
Strokes Posted 29 October 2017 Posted 29 October 2017 Yes i could and i would have if it was an option. Watching someone you love suffer, who has no chance of getting better, has to be the most heart wrenching awful experience. If there is anything worse i don't ever want to know what. We get to make important decisions all through our lives but the last one, we arent allowed to make for ourselves. Its madness.
SheppyFox Posted 29 October 2017 Posted 29 October 2017 I believe it should be an individuals choice, regulated and professionally carried out. It’s tough.
Izzy Posted 29 October 2017 Posted 29 October 2017 I'm definitely in favour of voluntary euthanasia/assisted suicide. I've said many times on the depression thread that I've got absolutely no intention of growing old and becoming a burden. I know my health is deteriorating year on year and when I decide that I or those around me are suffering too much, then I absolutely want the option.
Captain... Posted 29 October 2017 Posted 29 October 2017 I don't know if I could, I don't know how I would feel if a love one told me they were going to do it. I do strongly believe that the option should exist in the UK. The dignitas approach is thorough and has many fail safes and an equivalent approach here should be implemented.
Guesty Posted 29 October 2017 Posted 29 October 2017 I think I would if I had one of those muscle wasting diseases. Everyday your body fails you a little more till you're a prisoner on your own body just waiting to die; feeling like a burden to everyone - and seeing the look on their faces. There would probably be other situations too. Of course, it is impossible to really know. But having watched someone die from cancer, I really wouldn't want to put someone I loved through that - however to them, they might prefer to have me around and go through that. I've always found it strange how people euthanize animals as it's the 'best, most compassionate thing for them as they're suffering', yet it's a completely different viewpoint when it's a human. Whether it's selfish is a really difficult thing to answer: I imagine in some cases no, in some cases yes. It's very subjective to the illness, the reasons and the people involved. Very complicated, and I understand with all the loopholes and that there unscrupulous people out there why it is hard to legalise, but I hope one day it could be.
ajthefox Posted 29 October 2017 Posted 29 October 2017 I'm not sure if I ever would but the choice should be there.
Vacamion Posted 29 October 2017 Posted 29 October 2017 I once posted in here about watching my Dad slowly and painfully die of cancer, with his dignity in shreds, and no room in any hospice, despite him paying into the system his whole life. Towards the end, he was in a lot of pain and he suffered from paranoid delusions (because of kidney failure) so thought his doctors and nurses were attacking him. He was in a dirty room full of shouty elderly men (he was only 60) and had to be given drinks of water via a sponge on a stick. I’m reasonably sure the poor old bugger, had he known what was in store, would have taken the hemlock/morphine and chosen to die on his own terms, with a bit of dignity and a lot less pain. I certainly would do. Religious values (or laws based on religion) about the “sanctity of life” can get stuffed, when that life is painful, abject and is only going to end soon anyway.
Parafox Posted 29 October 2017 Author Posted 29 October 2017 Already I have tears reading the accounts of suffering and the lack of choice for those dying in needless pain and suffering. The age old saying " I wouldn't put a dog through this", I want that to apply to me and those I love. When you watch a loved one in absolute despair, wanting to be free from the anguish of the needless torture of being kept pointlessly alive, it's harrowing. All it does is prolong the inevitable, regardless of one's own emotions and feelings of not wanting it to happen . Death is death. Why make it a tortuous process?
Guest seanfox778 Posted 29 October 2017 Posted 29 October 2017 I would love to be euthanised if I had a terminal illness or a life changing condition. It should 100% be an option.
lcfcrinaldi Posted 30 October 2017 Posted 30 October 2017 I understand both sides of the story, but if I was in a position where I felt that life wasn't worth living anymore, I would want the option. I don't understand the argument of "it's selfish", to me I'd like to think that my loved ones would rather me be pain free rather than living in a hell on earth situation. On a side note, I once had an assignment at school to research Euthanasia, wasn't really listening and did a report on The Youth In Asia instead.
MC Prussian Posted 30 October 2017 Posted 30 October 2017 It's a very delicate question. One that only the person affected can really answer. I can see that suffering from a terminal illness with no cure in sight and only little relief based on the ongoing treatment is reason enough for someone to decide to end his or her life by the use of a syringe. Why put more of a burden on yourself, your family and the people who love you? Why prolonging the pain? Why continue feeding the medical apparatus with expensive machinery and pills, some of which are in a test phase, with you as the patient acting as the guinea pig?
Guest the fox Posted 30 October 2017 Posted 30 October 2017 my late dad had a very similar situation to @Vacamion , it really is hard seeing a loved one wither away in less than a year. it's heartbreaking to say the least. but as far as i'm concerned, i will ride it out just like my old man.
Countryfox Posted 30 October 2017 Posted 30 October 2017 Could I ? .. Would I ? ... oh yes ! most definitely ... and I'd only charge 100 notes ... mind you, you would have to dig a nice big deep hole first as my back has been giving me right gip of late ... I would however be happy to give you a money back guarantee that you would be dead BEFORE you heard the bang ... can't say fairer than that !
Guest the fox Posted 30 October 2017 Posted 30 October 2017 18 minutes ago, MC Prussian said: It's a very delicate question. One that only the person affected can really answer. I can see that suffering from a terminal illness with no cure in sight and only little relief based on the ongoing treatment is reason enough for someone to decide to end his or her life by the use of a syringe. Why put more of a burden on yourself, your family and the people who love you? Why prolonging the pain? Why continue feeding the medical apparatus with expensive machinery and pills, some of which are in a test phase, with you as the patient acting as the guinea pig? it depends on the person, my dad's body was too far gone to be saved by an operation, so after he went to the hospital and asked around, many told him that he will die if he take it. and he knew that even though the pain gonna be excruciating, and his body was already giving up on him. did you know what he told us? "i want to spend more time with my kids, let that be a month, two or even four". even on his way out, he had us as a priority on his mind. a smile from him was enough to cover up the heartache. till the day he closed his eyes for the last time, he never told us he regreted not getting the operation, even though that could've been an easier way to die.
Finnegan Posted 30 October 2017 Posted 30 October 2017 Death for everyone that wants it. That's my motto. Those futurama suicide booths, definitely the way forward. Not really anyone's business but the subject to be fair. Could I do it to a loved one? Comfortably, if I was content they were in their right mind making the request.
Countryfox Posted 30 October 2017 Posted 30 October 2017 1 minute ago, Finnegan said: Death for everyone that wants it. That's my motto. Those futurama suicide booths, definitely the way forward. Could I do it to a loved one? Comfortably, if I was content they were in their right mind making the request. Not really anyone's business but the subject to be fair. Thats the tricky bit .. been there seen it done it ... not too happy that the decision was left with me .. haunted me for quite a while afterwards.
Guest Posted 30 October 2017 Posted 30 October 2017 my wife and I have already agreed to help the other one out if necessary. There comes a point where life is pointless.
Trav Le Bleu Posted 30 October 2017 Posted 30 October 2017 I guess the real problem is it being open to abuse, especially if the person being euthanized was rich and suffering from something like dementia. Or someone uncaring, selfish and lazy, convincing someone else they were a 'burden' when in reality their affliction was little more than an inconvenience for most sufferers.
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