England squad

[Tuna]

2 hours ago, AKCJ said:

What on ****ing Earth has Dominic Solanke done to be in the full England squad?

1 start and 9 sub appearances - 0 goals for Liverpool this season. Ridiculous!

[Wymsey]

Think England will get easily beaten against Brazil.

Just had to Google Solanke, he hasn't achieved anything to deserve a call-up.

[Jimmy]

5 hours ago, AKCJ said:

What on ****ing Earth has Dominic Solanke done to be in the full England squad?

scored a shit load of goals at U20/21 level, chances are he won't play but no harm in having him train and make up the numbers

[BenTheFox]

9 hours ago, AKCJ said:

What on ****ing Earth has Dominic Solanke done to be in the full England squad?

To be fair in Spain and Germany for example, they pick players from the u20/u21 setups much more than we do. I think it's a good idea, it gives them a platform. 

[purpleronnie]

Makes you wonder if these players would be given this chance if so many hadn't 'pulled out'.

 

Because they should especially for friendlies.

 

[Stadt]

Moan when same old names are picked.

 

Moan when new names are picked.

 

[Phube]

23 minutes ago, Wookie said:

Moan when same old names are picked.

 

Moan when new names are picked.

 

 

Surely the important bit missing is 'undeserved'.

[AKCJ]

24 minutes ago, Wookie said:

Moan when same old names are picked.

 

Moan when new names are picked.

 

Not even slightly.

 

Moan when the 'name' isn't even slightly deserving of the spot.

[Stadt]

7 hours ago, AKCJ said:

Not even slightly.

 

Moan when the 'name' isn't even slightly deserving of the spot.

Solanke and Gunn absolutely don’t deserve to be called up but I’ve people moaning about Cork and Cookbeing called up when they’ve deserved to be 

[Koke]

In 10 years time we will look back on players from this era and see loads of them with 2-3 caps to their name and wonder when they got it.

[Ric Flair]

How can people moan about these youngsters being called up? Are you fcukin thick? The reason they're being called up is we have had about 6-10 players pull out or are already out injured. Would you rather we didn't call up anyone else or do the call up's need to be Danny Simpson and Marc Albrighton? We've all praised our development squads achievements for England this year and isn't it a great opportunity to give some of these a call up as we've so many established players missing than call up players who chances are have reached their maximum level already? In fact I am struggling to think of many English players not from the U21's or younger squads that would be available for selection anyway!

[Ric Flair]

3 minutes ago, Koke said:

In 10 years time we will look back on players from this era and see loads of them with 2-3 caps to their name and wonder when they got it.

Who else would you have called up then? Crouch, Carrick and Impey?

[Koke]

1 minute ago, Ric Flair said:

Who else would you have called up then? Crouch, Carrick and Impey?

 

No I agree with the call ups. Its good to see the U21 and U20 lads get a chance at senior level. Unfortunately I just think some/many of them will fade away into 1 cap wonders like David Nugent and Joey Barton.

[les-tah]

with all these u21 call ups ... if anything wecould be doing it to convince the 100s of players at chelsea and man city that they are wasting their careers at them clubs and to move on to develop. 

[Guest MattP]

23 hours ago, AKCJ said:

What on ****ing Earth has Dominic Solanke done to be in the full England squad?

Came on a few times for Liverpool and looked out of his depth. 

[Dames]

23 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

He's a great talent, along with Winks and Loftus-Cheek. I'd love it if we were to fcuk off the likes of Henderson and Ox for these. 

I wish this were the case too but Southgate will revert back to the norm after these friendlies and Henderson will end up being Vice Captain.

[Ric Flair]

1 hour ago, Koke said:

 

No I agree with the call ups. Its good to see the U21 and U20 lads get a chance at senior level. Unfortunately I just think some/many of them will fade away into 1 cap wonders like David Nugent and Joey Barton.

Yeah I know what you're saying but if a couple of them perform like Loftus-Cheek or Winks have then hopefully they make it very difficult for Southgate to keep to order with the usual mob and we finally see the changes we've wanted for years.

[Guest]

What is this loftus-cheek love in? Watched him in the prem this year and he has underimpressed, he nutmegs a player in a friendly and he's God's gift. too many fans think a fancy move is better than a bit of hard work in football which is why Albrighton couldn't get called up when he was performing like a star for us.

[Ric Flair]

1 minute ago, FIF said:

What is this loftus-cheek love in? Watched him in the prem this year and he has underimpressed, he nutmegs a player in a friendly and he's God's gift. too many fans think a fancy move is better than a bit of hard work in football which is why Albrighton couldn't get called up when he was performing like a star for us.

His all round game on Friday showed real potential. He's strong, composed on the ball and had a real ability to drive at the opposition from the middle of the park in to attack, it's refreshing to see in a lengthy period of English performances that have been so boring and lethargic. Ok, it's probably too much praise for an isolated game but maybe we're starting to see a bit of a shift with the likes of Winks, Maguire, Loftus-Cheek coming in and looking completely non-England in the way we play.

[AKCJ]

10 hours ago, Wookie said:

Solanke and Gunn absolutely don’t deserve to be called up but I’ve people moaning about Cork and Cookbeing called up when they’ve deserved to be 

Not sure about Cork but Cook is a superb talent that doesn't get nearly enough attention.

 

Gunn is picked because he's a young lad that has done well with the youth sides and is there purely because there is no chance the 3rd choice keeper is getting game time.

[Stadt]

1 hour ago, AKCJ said:

Not sure about Cork but Cook is a superb talent that doesn't get nearly enough attention.

 

Gunn is picked because he's a young lad that has done well with the youth sides and is there purely because there is no chance the 3rd choice keeper is getting game time.

I immensely dislike Burnley but Cork has had a stellar season so far and he’s one of the few English ball playing DMs.

 

I agree that the third GK spot doesn’t mean much at all but Pope probably merited a call up more than Gunn but as @pmcla26 said it probably is with an eye to 2020 and beyond 

[urban.spaceman]

34 minutes ago, Wookie said:

I immensely dislike Burnley but Cork has had a stellar season so far and he’s one of the few English ball playing DMs.

 

I agree that the third GK spot doesn’t mean much at all but Pope probably merited a call up more than Gunn but as @pmcla26 said it probably is with an eye to 2020 and beyond 

 

 

[davieG]

Maguire may have just leapfrogged Cahill to England’s LCB role

by Christy Malyan  @ChristyMalyanshare

     

3 minute read 13/11/2017 | 04:45pm

It’s becoming increasingly clear that Gareth Southgate sees a three-man defence as a vital component of England’s World Cup bid next summer; since becoming permanent manager, four of his nine games in charge have involved a back three – including the last two.

Of course, back threes have become incredibly common at the top end of the Premier League since Antonio Conte introduced 3-4-2-1 at Chelsea during the opening months of last season. But potentially the most important player in successfully implementing that system in Russia next summer currently plies his trade lower down the table – Leicester City’s Harry Maguire.

The former Hull City man – who Transfermarkt value at £7.2million – has been phenomenal for the Foxes since arriving at the King Power Stadium in the summer, combining sheer size and power with quality in possession, and he’s carried that form to international level as well.

In fact, he provided arguably one of England’s best individual performances against Germany on Friday night, playing a key part in claiming a clean sheet against the reigning world champions while making an impact on the ball – highlighted by his three chances created, 75 touches and 94% passing accuracy.

Of course, ability in possession is not only an integral asset in international football but also for defenders operating in a back three, expected to step into midfield when opportunities allow and take more responsibility on the ball as the wing-backs push further up.

But what makes Maguire so crucial is that he’s emerging as the arguably best candidate for the most troubled spot in any back three – the left centre-back slot. None of England’s centre-halves are naturally left footed and although Gary Cahill occupies that role at Chelsea, it’s rarely his technique and passing that earns the plaudits. Maguire, though, looked more than comfortable at left centre-back on Friday night, especially when in possession.

If there’s one factor counting against him, it’s that Cahill will be playing the left-sided role practically every week for the remainder of the season, whereas Leicester usually line up in a more traditional back four.

But if the 24-year-old continues to take the chances Southgate offers him at left centre-back, the next of which could well com against Brazil tomorrow night, the Chelsea skipper may find himself sidelined to Maguire’s benefit by the time the World Cup in Russia comes around.

[Guest]

Do we know if Vardy and Maguire are likely to play?

 

I've got to get up at 4:30am on Wednesday, so I'll only stay up and watch if they are.

[chris_lcfc_85]

52 minutes ago, FIF said:

Do we know if Vardy and Maguire are likely to play?

 

I've got to get up at 4:30am on Wednesday, so I'll only stay up and watch if they are.

Expected line-ups:

 

England: Joe Hart; Gary Cahill, Johns Stones, Harry Maguire, Kyle Walker, Jake Livermore, Ruben Loftus-Cheek, Eric Dier (captain), Ryan Bertrand, Marcus Rashford, Jamie Vardy

Brazil: Alisson (Roma), Dani Alves (PSG), Marrquinhos (PSG), Miranda (Inter Milan), Marcelo (Real Madrid), Casemiro (Real Madrid), Paulinho (Barcelona), Renato Augusto (Beijing Guoan), Philippe Coutinho (Liverpool), Gabriel Jesus (Manchester City), Neymar (PSG)