Grow up and get behind Riyad, or: stop listening to the press and wait and see how he reacts on the pitch

[AlloverthefloorYesNdidi]

4 minutes ago, Happy Fox said:

The Sheepshaggers views  

 

https://dcfcfans.uk/topic/28317-riyad-mahrez/?page=1

Couple of sensible comments on there

[foxfanazer]

2 minutes ago, AlloverthefloorYesNdidi said:

Couple of sensible comments on there

More than on here then

[shen]

1 minute ago, foxfanazer said:

£50m is a huge amount, of course it is. Not for a player that the club value closer to £80m it isn’t though. He earns 100k because that’s what he negotiated with the club, nothing about being butthurt. How can the club give him more money when he doesn’t want to sign a new contract? 

You brought up what he earns and that in light of this his actions are upsetting you.

 

His value is subjective, but I don't disagree with how the club have held out for more than Man City bid, given the market has inflated further.

 

Mahrez of course has responsibility for his own contract, but we strictly don't know the contents of that contract nor which other agreements are i place between the two parties. For all we know, Mahrez might be within his rights to be angry.

I guess we'll find out if the club confirm the fine and state that Mahrez has been in breach of contract.

 

But if Mahrez accepts the fine and cracks on with performances akin to those we have seen this season, surely that should put the matter to bed.

 

After all, no one is mentioning Vardy's racistic outburst anymore, are they?

[Alf Bentley]

Another reason why the Thais were correct to stand firm, understated on here: the impact on the rest of the squad.

 

We are currently battling for a Top 7 finish, Europa League football and the FA Cup - with realistic chances of the first 2, at least.

 

Firstly, what would it have done to squad morale and performance levels if we'd sold Mahrez cheap, maybe bringing in a substandard, last-minute panic buy to replace him?

We could easily have ended up sliding down the table and finishing below halfway.

 

Secondly, we have other players good enough to aspire to European football and to attract interest from Top 7 clubs in the summer: Maguire and Ndidi, certainly, possibly others.

If we had capitulated over Mahrez, we could easily have ended up not only disappointing this season, we could have lost other key players in the summer, requiring a major squad overhaul and risking a relegation struggle next season.

 

Standing firm may or may not work. That will depend partly on Mahrez's attitude now - and on the response of the rest of the squad over coming months.

It will also depend greatly on the owners and manager successfully achieving the difficult task of getting Mahrez remotivated and reintegrated.

I hope that post about Vichai meeting Mahrez & his reps in London is true. Something like that needs to happen as it's critical to the momentum of this club this season and next - and also important for Mahrez's post-LCFC future, if he'll realise that.

Edited 2 February 2018 by Alf Bentley

[yorkie1999]

1 hour ago, MC Prussian said:

Puel is quoted as describing Riyad as "disillusioned".

And what does Gus Poyet know? Since when is holding onto our guns equalling "mistreating a player"? Victim mentality!

https://talksport.com/football/riyad-mahrez-latest-leicester-stars-unhappy-midfielder-missing-training-after-failed

Why is Cliff Ginnetta still getting so much exposure?

Cos no-one that actually matters will talk to the press

[Mayofox]

Looking at our fixtures, the media are going to have a field day if his reappearance is against Man City. Let's hope some calm has returned to the waters by then, and Mahrez shows them what they missed out on.

[Innovindil]

3 minutes ago, AlloverthefloorYesNdidi said:

Couple of sensible comments on there

Even the ones criticising us of acting like big hitters are fair. We aren't a big team, but we are trying to act like one. It could all blow up, Mahrez could carry on spitting his dummy out and we could have just lost tens of millions on him, or he could get back to playing and end up being the difference between us getting in the Europa league or not, in which case, it's good business. We'd be able to attract better players if we can offer them European football, we'd make more money from sponsors, more money from extra games etc etc. 

 

I'd much rather us act like big hitters in a vain attempt of becoming a big hitter, than being whipping boys like Southampton constantly losing their best players with no hope of progressing. 

 

Not every big team up there was always big. 

[EnglishOxide]

Looks like he's not turned up for training again.

 

Puel needs to come down hard on him. No favouritism.

[LaCiudad]

Left the country? From BBC Sport

Edited 2 February 2018 by LaCiudad

[shen]

2 minutes ago, Alf Bentley said:

Another reason why the Thais were correct to stand firm, understated on here: the impact on the rest of the squad.

 

We are currently battling for a Top 7 finish, Europa League football and the FA Cup - with realistic chances of the first 2, at least.

 

Firstly, what would it have done to squad morale and performance levels if we'd sold Mahrez, maybe bringing in a substandard, last-minute panic buy to replace him?

We could easily have ended up sliding down the table and finishing below halfway.

 

Secondly, we have other players good enough to aspire to European football and to attract interest from Top 7 clubs in the summer: Maguire and Ndidi, certainly, possibly others.

If we had capitulated over Mahrez, we could easily have ended up not only disappointing this season, we could have lost other key players in the summer, requiring a major squad overhaul and risking a relegation struggle next season.

 

Standing firm may or may not work. That will depend partly on Mahrez's attitude now - and on the response of the rest of the squad over coming months.

It will also depend greatly on the owners and manager successfully achieving the difficult task of getting Mahrez remotivated and reintegrated.

I hope that post about Vichai meeting Mahrez & his reps in London is true. Something like that needs to happen as it's critical to the momentum of this club this season and next - and also important for Mahrez's post-LCFC future, if he'll realise that.

Yup, fair points. Remains to be seen if this was sensibly dealt with or if it will backfire.

[yorkie1999]

2 minutes ago, Innovindil said:

Even the ones criticising us of acting like big hitters are fair. We aren't a big team, but we are trying to act like one. It could all blow up, Mahrez could carry on spitting his dummy out and we could have just lost tens of millions on him, or he could get back to playing and end up being the difference between us getting in the Europa league or not, in which case, it's good business. We'd be able to attract better players if we can offer them European football, we'd make more money from sponsors, more money from extra games etc etc. 

 

I'd much rather us act like big hitters in a vain attempt of becoming a big hitter, than being whipping boys like Southampton constantly losing their best players with no hope of progressing. 

 

Not every big team up there was always big. 

We've  not lost 10's of millions on him, he only cost 400k in the first place.

[foxfanazer]

7 minutes ago, shen said:

You brought up what he earns and that in light of this his actions are upsetting you.

 

His value is subjective, but I don't disagree with how the club have held out for more than Man City bid, given the market has inflated further.

 

Mahrez of course has responsibility for his own contract, but we strictly don't know the contents of that contract nor which other agreements are i place between the two parties. For all we know, Mahrez might be within his rights to be angry.

I guess we'll find out if the club confirm the fine and state that Mahrez has been in breach of contract.

 

But if Mahrez accepts the fine and cracks on with performances akin to those we have seen this season, surely that should put the matter to bed.

 

After all, no one is mentioning Vardy's racistic outburst anymore, are they?

Nope, wrong again. I said I had no empathy towards him. The wages are just part of it. He’s playing for a club that have given him the platform to display his amazing talents. We’ve rewarded him aptly imo (seems like that’s up for debate) and we’ve said he can leave if a big club matches our valuation of him which I’d guess (and it is just a guess) is around £75-80m. If none of the top clubs are willing to pay that you have to ask yourself how important of a player he’s going to be there

 

Everybody will have their own views but if the papers are to be believed I think the owners have got this bang on 

Edited 2 February 2018 by foxfanazer

[shen]

2 minutes ago, Innovindil said:

Even the ones criticising us of acting like big hitters are fair. We aren't a big team, but we are trying to act like one. It could all blow up, Mahrez could carry on spitting his dummy out and we could have just lost tens of millions on him, or he could get back to playing and end up being the difference between us getting in the Europa league or not, in which case, it's good business. We'd be able to attract better players if we can offer them European football, we'd make more money from sponsors, more money from extra games etc etc. 

 

I'd much rather us act like big hitters in a vain attempt of becoming a big hitter, than being whipping boys like Southampton constantly losing their best players with no hope of progressing. 

 

Not every big team up there was always big. 

In a global footballing sense we ARE big hitters. Nobody can claim we are a 'small' club anymore. We have very rich owners, we're part of the richest league in the world and have a vastly increased reputation and profile after our recent success. You could argue that Man City are only "bigger" hitters than us because their owners are richer than ours.

 

 

[Innovindil]

2 minutes ago, yorkie1999 said:

We've  not lost 10's of millions on him, he only cost 400k in the first place.

Potential loss on what we were offered for him this window. Not what he was worth when we bought him, obviously. 

[yorkie1999]

Just now, Innovindil said:

Potential loss on what we were offered for him this window. Not what he was worth when we bought him, obviously. 

so, pretend loss then.

[Innovindil]

1 minute ago, shen said:

In a global footballing sense we ARE big hitters. Nobody can claim we are a 'small' club anymore. We have very rich owners, we're part of the richest league in the world and have a vastly increased reputation and profile after our recent success. You could argue that Man City are only "bigger" hitters than us because their owners are richer than ours.

 

 

Semantics, in the end, we are currently at best 7th in this league. That isn't a big hitter, that is an average fish in a pond full of monsters. 

 

Big hitters should be challenging for a cl spot every year, we aren't close to that right now. 

[Innovindil]

Just now, yorkie1999 said:

so, pretend loss then.

If that makes you feel better, sure. 

[ZeGuy]

15 minutes ago, Alf Bentley said:

Another reason why the Thais were correct to stand firm, understated on here: the impact on the rest of the squad.

 

We are currently battling for a Top 7 finish, Europa League football and the FA Cup - with realistic chances of the first 2, at least.

 

Firstly, what would it have done to squad morale and performance levels if we'd sold Mahrez cheap, maybe bringing in a substandard, last-minute panic buy to replace him?

We could easily have ended up sliding down the table and finishing below halfway.

 

Secondly, we have other players good enough to aspire to European football and to attract interest from Top 7 clubs in the summer: Maguire and Ndidi, certainly, possibly others.

If we had capitulated over Mahrez, we could easily have ended up not only disappointing this season, we could have lost other key players in the summer, requiring a major squad overhaul and risking a relegation struggle next season.

 

Standing firm may or may not work. That will depend partly on Mahrez's attitude now - and on the response of the rest of the squad over coming months.

It will also depend greatly on the owners and manager successfully achieving the difficult task of getting Mahrez remotivated and reintegrated.

I hope that post about Vichai meeting Mahrez & his reps in London is true. Something like that needs to happen as it's critical to the momentum of this club this season and next - and also important for Mahrez's post-LCFC future, if he'll realise that.

Another poster said it before and it's seems it's going to be that way: new contract with a release clause. Imo there is no other way to get him performing again. The uncertainty about for how much he will go will hamper him for the rest of the season if the price is not clearly defined.

 

75M, ideally 80M should be about right.

Edited 2 February 2018 by ZeGuy

[Muzzy_no7]

Not in training again today then? Pathetic. Why tarnish 4 of the best years of his career for the sake of a move to sit on the bench at a 'bigger club'? Full strength squad he wouldn't start for City.

[rachhere]

Just now, Muzzy_no7 said:

Not in training again today then? Pathetic. Why tarnish 4 of the best years of his career for the sake of a move to sit on the bench at a 'bigger club'? Full strength squad he wouldn't start for City.

He's achieving absolutely nothing, other than giving himself a label of difficult person to work with, which clearly isn't going to help long term. Very disappointed.

[TheUltimateWinner]

 

[Gerard]

I wouldn't be surprised if Mahrez has been told to take the rest of this week off as his head's not right and it will be disruptive to the squad to concentrate on this and not the match.

[jayfox26]

3 hours ago, the fox said:

why did thing had to come to this! riyad asking for a cut price and the owners asking too much. smh! all share the blame here.

 

he wanted to leave for the longest so the club should've had a back-up on stand-by. asking to lower the price to the summer valuation is greedy and unrealstic and asking for 95 million cash is also too greedy!

 

this makes the owners look as bad as riyad. can't imagine players/agents will be too overzealous dealing with us anymore. ruling with an iron fist is all well and good until you get on the bad side of a more influential preson.

Bull shit. If they had bid earlier in the window he'd have gone for £60m. No way would we sell him on deadline day. And Its not as easy as to say have a replacement lined up. If we did to another team what city tried to do to us and bid for a star player on deadline day, said player who is probably worth £30m we would have had to pay £70m plus as that team also wouldn't have got a replacement. Or should they have had a replacement lined up as well just on the off chance city bid for Mahrez of deadline day and we then bid for their player. If City wanted him they should have bid earlier. End of story 

[Guest]

Just now, ZeGuy said:

Another poster said it before and it's seems to be that way: new contract with a release clause. Imo there is no other way to get him performing again. The uncertainty about for how much he will go will hamper him for the rest of the season if it's the price is not clearly defined.

 

75M, ideally 80M should be about right.

If it's a new contract with a release clause at 80m then he should agree a weekly wage of £20k. Do you think he'll agree to that?

 

What the guy has done this week is unacceptable. It is an insult to the owners, his teammates, the club and most of all the fans. He deserves a hefty fine and he needs to come back a contrite player. He wants to go, he will go and we need to plan for the future without him. That starts now. Maybe we'll sacrifice a few points this season but there's in no reason to make him the centre of the team's plan and there's every reason to build experience and confidence in the players that will be here after May - Diabaté, Gray, Silva, Iheanacho and Vardy. Drop Mahrez if he isn't performing to the best of his ability FOR THE TEAM.

 

Shocking title to this thread - three words of it suffice:

 

Grow Up Mahrez.

[goose2010]

Just now, Gerard said:

I wouldn't be surprised if Mahrez has been told to take the rest of this week off as his head's not right and it will be disruptive to the squad to concentrate on this and not the match.

Totally agree, its not clear if he has been given time off or just not turned up obviously the press are going with the AWOL story line!