Gerard Posted 27 May 2018 Posted 27 May 2018 Just now, SouthStandUpperTier said: Man City won the league by the proverbial country mile. He'll have to earn a place in that side, it won't be handed to him on a plate. Of course but he's more than capable of going there and be one of their key players within a couple of months. Mahrez one on one is the most lethal player in the PL. The opposition won't be able to double and treble up on him so easily as they do here. Against a parked bus he'll break lines and cause havoc several times a match, he's a player they haven't got like that in their squad or at least one as capable as Mahrez.
SouthStandUpperTier Posted 27 May 2018 Posted 27 May 2018 2 minutes ago, Gerard said: Of course but he's more than capable of going there and be one of their key players within a couple of months. Mahrez one on one is the most lethal player in the PL. The opposition won't be able to double and treble up on him so easily as they do here. Against a parked bus he'll break lines and cause havoc several times a match, he's a player they haven't got like that in their squad or at least one as capable as Mahrez. I'm a big fan of Mahrez. But I don't think Man City really need him. It's just another case of the big clubs hoovering up all the talent. Whatever happens at Man City next season, there's going to be damn good player just kicking his heels on the bench. And that's a shame imho.
Sly Posted 27 May 2018 Posted 27 May 2018 Anyone thought that maybe Mahrez might stay?!? No?!? Anyone?!? ...... didn’t think so
foxile5 Posted 27 May 2018 Posted 27 May 2018 12 minutes ago, bennytwohats said: Dude you sound incredibly bitter about this. Yeah he’s made a few hiccups along the way, but he’s given the clubs/fans so much to celebrate. We’ve done a lot for him, he’s done a lot for us. We have kept him for two years longer than most expected us too, now he’s likely going for a fair price. To stay would be holding back his career. This should be completely amicable for all parties. Bitter isn't the word. Angered perhaps? I would give my left leg to play ten minutes for Leicester. But I can't. I'm not good enough. So that's why I pay a huge amount of my wage to see others do it for me. They represent me. Granted he's a great player but, on a personal level, seeing a grown man act like a little bitch and show no respect to the club and its fans on multiple occasions is too much. He's living my dream and treating it as though it's nothing. Why wouldn't I be annoyed? Why shouldn't I hold the players of Leicester City to a moral standard. Let's not lose sight of the fact that the players play a game representing us. 1
st albans fox Posted 27 May 2018 Posted 27 May 2018 1 minute ago, SouthStandUpperTier said: I'm a big fan of Mahrez. But I don't think Man City really need him. It's just another case of the big clubs hoovering up all the talent. Whatever happens at Man City next season, there's going to be damn good player just kicking his heels on the bench. And that's a shame imho. There might be some truth in this - there aren’t many players ouside the top six who could make a big difference. Ngolo was one and Chelsea reaped the rewards. Vardy, mahrez, zaha are others without thinking too hard. pep sees Riyad as being something they can use in their squad. I think he might look to him to replace David silva in time but that’s going to take some coaching. However, knowing that if you don’t buy him, he could end up at one of your competitors perhaps helps to get the deal done. 1
Guest Posted 27 May 2018 Posted 27 May 2018 8 minutes ago, bennytwohats said: Dude you sound incredibly bitter about this. Yeah he’s made a few hiccups along the way, but he’s given the clubs/fans so much to celebrate. We’ve done a lot for him, he’s done a lot for us. We have kept him for two years longer than most expected us too, now he’s likely going for a fair price. To stay would be holding back his career. This should be completely amicable for all parties. Why is stating facts "bitter"? I agree with MC Prussian's analysis above. Great player on the pitch but a whiny spoilt brat when not on it who hasn't always put the effort in and been mostly a disappointment since the title and he's soured me too. The argument that he's done a lot for us and stayed 2 years longer than "most" expected is a straw man. It's his job to do the best he can week in, week out and he's paid like a prince (not a queen of any description) to do so. He is under contract to us and should have worked to the utmost of his ability every day of that contract. We are his career. It would be more accurate to say that some of his actions and perfomrances have held us back this year - and cost us European football next year than say that we are holding him back. It's not as though he didn't sign the contract willingly or that he didn't have the opportunity to insert a release clause in his initial contract (but of course he wouldn't want that as he wouldn't want to stay in the French Ligue 2). The price is reasonable and I'm sure it'll be a fairly amicable parting between him and the club. that doesn't mean that we, as supporters of LCFC - not mahrez nor Mancs nor the EFL... have to ALL be happy with what's happened. It just shows that we realise he's a good player and he's hurting OUR team by leaving. 5 minutes ago, richardsfoxes said: Crazy reading some of the comments about Riyad, literally got one of the best match winners in the league you can literally count on one hand players who can do what he can in this league, that's why Man City want him. They already have many players who are match winners. they want him as back-up for injuries and a heavy schedule. 2 minutes ago, Gerard said: Of course but he's more than capable of going there and be one of their key players within a couple of months. Mahrez one on one is the most lethal player in the PL. The opposition won't be able to double and treble up on him so easily as they do here. Against a parked bus he'll break lines and cause havoc several times a match, he's a player they haven't got like that in their squad or at least one as capable as Mahrez. Even with blue tinted glasses that's an outright lie. It amazes me that some LCFC fans haven't seen the hundreds of times that Mahrez has been in a one on one situation and ****ed it up. Usually by holding onto the ball so long that 2 or 3 players arrive. I'm sure Guardiola will be shouting at him to pass the ball more quickly and then move for the return. If he'd done that at Leicester he could been a 15+ goals and assists player each season. If he really is seen by Guardiola as good as you and others make out then we should be able to get one of those players he's replacing as a part exchange - I'd take sterling or Silva or Mané ... instead of them being cast into the stands and not playing.
Sly Posted 27 May 2018 Posted 27 May 2018 1 hour ago, Dan LCFC said: This one just doesn't hurt like it probably should. I think I accepted about February time we'd lost him. The hurt has already been done. This time I just want it to happen. I'm convinced now it is not in our interests to keep Mahrez. For me, Kante hurt more. I personally think he’s replaceable. We will do as well without him, as I’d like to think we’ll bring in a more consistent player. Maybe not have the magic to win a game in an instant like Riyad, however will contribute more over 38 games. Riyad has great offensive stats, goals, assist, glides pass people when he’s on it. Anyone ever looked at how many goals he’s potential cost us?!? 1
Sly Posted 27 May 2018 Posted 27 May 2018 4 minutes ago, st albans fox said: There might be some truth in this - there aren’t many players ouside the top six who could make a big difference. Ngolo was one and Chelsea reaped the rewards. Vardy, mahrez, zaha are others without thinking too hard. pep sees Riyad as being something they can use in their squad. I think he might look to him to replace David silva in time but that’s going to take some coaching. However, knowing that if you don’t buy him, he could end up at one of your competitors perhaps helps to get the deal done. Great players outside the top six: Vardy Mahrez Lemina Zaha Mahrez Gross Gueye Anurtovic Sigurdsson Richardlson Bertrand Shaqiri Doucoure
Foxxed Posted 27 May 2018 Posted 27 May 2018 2 minutes ago, Sly said: For me, Kante hurt more. I personally think he’s replaceable. We will do as well without him, as I’d like to think we’ll bring in a more consistent player. Maybe not have the magic to win a game in an instant like Riyad, however will contribute more over 38 games. Riyad has great offensive stats, goals, assist, glides pass people when he’s on it. Anyone ever looked at how many goals he’s potential cost us?!? So the team was itching to score 13 and assist 10 but Riyad was preventing them? Perhaps even more than 13 goals and 10 assists. Perhaps Riyad's been holding us back? Imagine all the goals Real would score if Ronaldo would pipe the **** down? I cant' decide if this is the anger, denial or bargaining stage of grief. 1
OhYesNdidi Posted 27 May 2018 Posted 27 May 2018 2 minutes ago, Sly said: Great players outside the top six: Vardy Mahrez Lemina Zaha Mahrez Gross Gueye Anurtovic Sigurdsson Richardlson Bertrand Shaqiri Doucoure I'd still have Vardy & Mahrez as the best out of those you've named. To score 20 goals in Vardys case, or get double figures in assists & goals are great achievements in a side that lacks creativity on the whole. 1
Guest bennytwohats Posted 27 May 2018 Posted 27 May 2018 8 minutes ago, foxile5 said: Bitter isn't the word. Angered perhaps? I would give my left leg to play ten minutes for Leicester. But I can't. I'm not good enough. So that's why I pay a huge amount of my wage to see others do it for me. They represent me. Granted he's a great player but, on a personal level, seeing a grown man act like a little bitch and show no respect to the club and its fans on multiple occasions is too much. He's living my dream and treating it as though it's nothing. Why wouldn't I be annoyed? Why shouldn't I hold the players of Leicester City to a moral standard. Let's not lose sight of the fact that the players play a game representing us. I guess my assessment of the sport is quite different to yours. You’re trying to hold them to a standard that’s personal to you, as a Leicester fan, who has grown up supporting the club. Why would he? He didn’t grow up supporting us, it’s not in his contract that he should respect your dreams. We can barely even claim to be the ones who pay his wages - it’s mostly sky who do that. I get it, you have your view, I respect that even if I don’t agree with it. For me this just isn’t something I can commit so much anger towards - it’s a different perspective but I’d rather reflect on the good times he has given us, of which there have been many. We are getting a good price and at this point I genuinely think it’s in our interest to part ways. But you have stomped around in here basically calling people shit fans if they don’t share your same sense of indignation. That’s why I said you sound bitter.
Sly Posted 27 May 2018 Posted 27 May 2018 5 minutes ago, Foxxed said: So the team was itching to score 13 and assist 10 but Riyad was preventing them? Perhaps even more than 13 goals and 10 assists. Perhaps Riyad's been holding us back? Imagine all the goals Real would score if Ronaldo would pipe the **** down? I cant' decide if this is the anger, denial or bargaining stage of grief. Fair to say, you’ve missed the point of my post.
st albans fox Posted 27 May 2018 Posted 27 May 2018 5 minutes ago, Sly said: Great players outside the top six: Vardy Mahrez Lemina Zaha Mahrez Gross Gueye Anurtovic Sigurdsson Richardlson Bertrand Shaqiri Doucoure If you are a top six manager, how many of those are real game changers you would spend money on to stop them turning up at your competition ? Vardy, mahrez, zaha ....... that’s it imo 1
Guest Col city fan Posted 27 May 2018 Posted 27 May 2018 5 minutes ago, st albans fox said: If you are a top six manager, how many of those are real game changers you would spend money on to stop them turning up at your competition ? Vardy, mahrez, zaha ....... that’s it imo Arnautovic has been a game changer for West Ham tbf. He’s almost single handedly kept em up. Having seen his little glimpses at Stoke, I never thought he could (and would) play as well as he has done.
foxfanazer Posted 27 May 2018 Posted 27 May 2018 Will be a sense of relief when this is done. I’m actually not upset about it and instead I’m looking forward to see who we get in and how we adapt Don’t think he’ll do an awful lot at Man City but ya never know. I think £75m would represent a decent deal for us 3
Guest Col city fan Posted 27 May 2018 Posted 27 May 2018 1 minute ago, foxfanazer said: Will be a sense of relief when this is done. I’m actually not upset about it and instead I’m looking forward to see who we get in and how we adapt Don’t think he’ll do an awful lot at Man City but ya never know. I think £75m would represent a decent deal for us Agree with all of this apart from I do think he’ll do really well wherever he goes.
Gerard Posted 27 May 2018 Posted 27 May 2018 18 minutes ago, FIF said: Even with blue tinted glasses that's an outright lie. It amazes me that some LCFC fans haven't seen the hundreds of times that Mahrez has been in a one on one situation and ****ed it up. Usually by holding onto the ball so long that 2 or 3 players arrive. I'm sure Guardiola will be shouting at him to pass the ball more quickly and then move for the return. If he'd done that at Leicester he could been a 15+ goals and assists player each season. If he really is seen by Guardiola as good as you and others make out then we should be able to get one of those players he's replacing as a part exchange - I'd take sterling or Silva or Mané ... instead of them being cast into the stands and not playing. The problem with some of our fans is they can't accept that flair players like Mahrez can have a bad game or lose the ball. I've watched "world class" players come to the KP and be totally anonymous, players like Hazard, Coutinho, etc. I'm sure even the likes of Messi and Ronaldo have poor games occasionally when you wouldn't know them from the next player on the pitch. You're judging Mahrez on what he doesn't do all the time rather than acknowledging his brilliance. If Mahrez was as consistent as you'd like him to be we'd be comparing him to Messi and he'd have been long gone to Real or Barca for £200m.
ZeGuy Posted 27 May 2018 Posted 27 May 2018 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Sly said: For me, Kante hurt more. I personally think he’s replaceable. We will do as well without him, as I’d like to think we’ll bring in a more consistent player. Maybe not have the magic to win a game in an instant like Riyad, however will contribute more over 38 games. Riyad has great offensive stats, goals, assist, glides pass people when he’s on it. Anyone ever looked at how many goals he’s potential cost us?!? Nope. Because it's one of the most idiotic questions ever asked. Edited 27 May 2018 by ZeGuy 1
Redouane Posted 27 May 2018 Posted 27 May 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, MC Prussian said: Except for the fact that you didn't. You make it sound as if Algeria were the better team or leading at some stage. Germany had the better and more chances - Algeria was good enough for one half, then faded quickly. And you were 2-0 down in extra time, 1-0 down after 92 minutes. And Riyad didn't even play during those 120 minutes... You said it yourself, the fact that we, the underdog team, managed 120 minutes against the WC champions is amazing. Also, we've had a lot of chances aswell, but Neuer had the game of his life. Slimani had a pretty amazing game! Also, what does this have to do with Mahrez playing or not? XD Edited 27 May 2018 by Redouane
urban.spaceman Posted 27 May 2018 Posted 27 May 2018 Kante hurt more because we'd just achieved the impossible and had the chance to properly progress and become one of England's elite. If he'd stayed we genuinely could have won the Champions League. Maybe. But instead he left for a bit more money and a guaranteed of regularly challenging for trophies. We then lost our head scout and had one of the worst periods of recruitment of anyone ever, and screwed it all up. But Riyad still stayed, and despite a couple of strops after we refused to be bullied into letting him go on the cheap, he's still given his all (when he wanted to) and shown us what he can do. I wish him well but it's time for him to leave. £75m for a 27 year old is a decent deal in this market. 2
richardsfoxes Posted 27 May 2018 Posted 27 May 2018 17 minutes ago, FIF said: I think you'll understand the severity of him leaving once he's gone, your wording paints him as a player who could of done more/been better and is easily replaceable which unfortunately isn't the case.
RumbleFox Posted 27 May 2018 Posted 27 May 2018 (edited) Was pivotal in the greatest moment in our history. Has contributed more in goals and assists than any other player over the last three seasons. Acted a bit annoyed when denied a move but continued to play well. About to earn us nearly £75m. I honestly can't see why anyone would be too angry about him moving or remember him as anything other than one of our best ever players. Yes we all want him to love Leicester and stay but he wasn't born in Hinkley you know. Any player on earth would move from Leicester to Man City under Pep. I wish it wasn't the way of the world but it is and as long as we do not get shafted on the price tag (which it looks like we are not) I can't really be too annoyed. Yes he could have handled things better but he has never had a major spaz out, never looked like the other players do not get on with and respect him and has certainly given me more good memories than bad. Viewed form the outside, I can't imagine their are many people thinking he has done too much wrong. He had his head turned but I cannot blame him too much. Wish he would stay and want to stay but not much we can do about that. Let's just use the money to set us up. If we take a few steps back and a few deep breathes and look at our club it is hard to see anything other than a club in good health, maybe in better health than at any point in our history. We have good owners, a good squad and potentially £75 million to spend. The title winning year ruined us. If you take that out we have steadily improved, year on year ever since our owners came in. Look at where we are now compared to where we were when they came and I can't see how anyone can moan. Anyway, I have rambled enough. Sorry everyone. X Edited 27 May 2018 by RumbleFox 3
Corky Posted 27 May 2018 Posted 27 May 2018 1 hour ago, Dan LCFC said: This one just doesn't hurt like it probably should. I think I accepted about February time we'd lost him. The hurt has already been done. This time I just want it to happen. I'm convinced now it is not in our interests to keep Mahrez. Yep. It's time to move on and wish him the best. Get it done early so we can look to adequately replace him with one or more players. It has been a lot of fun but I won't miss the sagas when he departs.
MC Prussian Posted 27 May 2018 Posted 27 May 2018 5 minutes ago, richardsfoxes said: I think you'll understand the severity of him leaving once he's gone, your wording paints him as a player who could of done more/been better and is easily replaceable which unfortunately isn't the case. I don't see how one player leaving will mean the club will cease to exist. Sorry for putting words in your mouth, but I can't stand the type of drama with people mourning the loss of Mahrez as the end of the world, the loss of a loved family member or the start of a downfall or however dramatic you want to paint the picture. His time with us and the memory thereof should be cherished. The club will do just fine once he's gone and hopefully this time around, the recruitment department have somebody lined up who can do an equally good job on the right than Mahrez did - let's remember that we've had about two years on the lookout, ever since Mahrez handed in his first transfer request. Just because he's one of a kind doesn't mean there aren't other players out there who can do just as fine for us.
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