Popular Post ScouseFox Posted 1 October 2018 Popular Post Share Posted 1 October 2018 why did we play benalouane for an hour when darnell johnson was on the bench? what’s the point in this league? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webbo Posted 1 October 2018 Share Posted 1 October 2018 Why does the commentator keep pronouncing it "Shoudry"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realist Guy In The Room Posted 1 October 2018 Share Posted 1 October 2018 Hows the Turk played? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderbyFox Posted 1 October 2018 Share Posted 1 October 2018 This crowd F bombs flying all over the place 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webbo Posted 1 October 2018 Share Posted 1 October 2018 Fancy getting booked in an U23 game? Arsehole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
los dedos Posted 1 October 2018 Share Posted 1 October 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, EnderbyFox said: This crowd F bombs flying all over the place "Ref get your eyes f**cking checked " Edited 1 October 2018 by los dedos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxxed Posted 1 October 2018 Share Posted 1 October 2018 How's Knight, Soyuncu (I see he was subbed off) and the rest performing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucey Posted 1 October 2018 Share Posted 1 October 2018 10 minutes ago, Foxxed said: How's Knight, Soyuncu (I see he was subbed off) and the rest performing? Only half-watching it but here's all the mentions of Soyuncu from the Merc's commentary. Doesn't sound great tbf 4 min Early foul from Soyuncu Soyuncu tries to bring the ball down on his chest, loses it and then fouls his man. Benalouane flicks away the free-kick and from the follow-up, Ballard’s looped header is saved by Jakupovic. 16 min Composed from Benalouane and Jakupovic The senior pros’ experience comes to the fore as Benalouane stops a swift coutner-attack with a clean tackle, then Jakupovic calmly deals with a bouncing back pass from Soyuncu, evading the onrushing striker and playing the ball back to the Turkish international. 28 min Soyuncu does enough... just Soyuncu gives the ball away but wins it back legally despite Arsenal protests. Dewsbury-Hall then dribbles into an Arsenal player and the Gunners are on the counter. Olayinka feeds John-Jules with just Soyuncu for company. The City defender goes down very early and puts off John-Jules who strikes wide. Poor play from the striker, who had time to get the better of Soyuncu after he went to ground. 50 min Up-and-under from Soyuncu Soyuncu’s attempt to clear a cross goes horrible wrong and it goes directly upwards. Luckily, it comes to nothing. Just before, Wright’s cutback nearly found King in the box. 70 min Soyuncu booked Soyuncu fouls Omole and the two square up, the City defender raising his hand to his opponent’s neck. For that, he goes in the book. 74 min Soyuncu subbed off Almost immediately after his yellow card, that’s the end of Soyuncu’s night. Beaglehole brings him off for Ramsay. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blanchflower78 Posted 1 October 2018 Share Posted 1 October 2018 Frustrating. Should be a class above here. Hardly material to oust Morgan just yet. Puel clearly seeing it that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScouseFox Posted 1 October 2018 Share Posted 1 October 2018 27 minutes ago, brucey said: Soyuncu booked Soyuncu fouls Omole and the two square up, the City defender raising his hand to his opponent’s neck. For that, he goes in the book. get him in the first team asap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucey Posted 1 October 2018 Share Posted 1 October 2018 2 minutes ago, ScouseFox said: get him in the first team asap nah, send him on loan to Leuven 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumbleFox Posted 1 October 2018 Share Posted 1 October 2018 1 hour ago, EnderbyFox said: This crowd F bombs flying all over the place There was a cracking, one man "You're shit aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh!". X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozartfox Posted 1 October 2018 Share Posted 1 October 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, Blanchflower78 said: Frustrating. Should be a class above here. Hardly material to oust Morgan just yet. Puel clearly seeing it that way. Difficult to judge anyone in these games as in the first 11 you have better players around you. The pace of some of these young Arsenal forwards would leave our older CB’s for dead. He obviously has talent, just need to get him involved soonest to build up his confidence. He came from the Bundesliga and not the Scottish Pub League, so he will make it with us as people coming from that league normally do well over here. Edited 2 October 2018 by mozartfox why not 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuchsntf Posted 1 October 2018 Share Posted 1 October 2018 Didn't understand the penalty,or The angle was wrong... Our older heads,should of won that game for us..Arsenal as usual slick,but we could of won it. fluffy/Choudry is starting to give me doubts,whether he can break through as a strong covering 1st team player... that said u23s games can hold one back,sometimes one has to take a punt,and even when their star is somewhat hanging,still Give them another big chance,and not just from the bench... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieG Posted 1 October 2018 Author Share Posted 1 October 2018 10 minutes ago, fuchsntf said: Didn't understand the penalty Same here, thought the ref was a bit red, why didn’t he book their diver? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thereeldeel Posted 1 October 2018 Share Posted 1 October 2018 2 hours ago, fuchsntf said: Didn't understand the penalty,or The angle was wrong... Our older heads,should of won that game for us..Arsenal as usual slick,but we could of won it. fluffy/Choudry is starting to give me doubts,whether he can break through as a strong covering 1st team player... that said u23s games can hold one back,sometimes one has to take a punt,and even when their star is somewhat hanging,still Give them another big chance,and not just from the bench... I thought choudhry had a very good game. Agree that change is needed, first team or loan...23's football notorious for stagnating growth. 'Somewhat hanging'? Confused?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuchsntf Posted 1 October 2018 Share Posted 1 October 2018 2 minutes ago, thereeldeel said: I thought choudhry had a very good game. Agree that change is needed, first team or loan...23's football notorious for stagnating growth. 'Somewhat hanging'? Confused?? When development after 1st recognition wanes.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 2 October 2018 Share Posted 2 October 2018 Looking at their first goal, soyuncu senses danger as the short free kick stretches us (he drops back to the six yard box) but as a result he loses his man who scores when the pull back is made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 2 October 2018 Share Posted 2 October 2018 You can't be spending nigh on £25m on a player and leaving him in the U23's, there's not a single other club that would do that. It's moronic. He's have been better staying at Freiburg all season, I just don't get why we quickly went at got him and Benkovic. Morgan isn't going to be ousted any time soon, I'd not rule out him signing a new 18 month deal soon and we're not going 3 at the back so he's going to get fcuk all chances. If he's not in the team by December then loan him out, U23 football is the pits. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Foxy-Lady Posted 2 October 2018 Popular Post Share Posted 2 October 2018 14 hours ago, FIF said: We've played some nice football down the sidelines and made some sloppy passes which have allowed Arse to counterattack at speed. Think we were the better team without really worrying their keeper. Just to add my 'usual' feedback to allow a little perspective on this game/result before the LCFC media-spin machine kicks-in... Avg age of LCFC starting X1 = 23.9 years old (251 PL appearances ; 881 Senior appearances ; 77 full International caps) Avg age of Arsenal starting X1 = 18.2 years old (ZERO PL appearances ; ZERO Snr appearances ; ZERO full international caps) If you exclude the 2 GKs as Jakupovic age slightly distorts the picture, avg ages of the starting players on pitch were 22.9 Vs 17.6 accordingly So in summary, a significantly older (+5 years!) and vastly more experienced LCFC U23 team lost to Arsenals U18 team. I think the key message here for me would be that Arsenals younger players would have learned far more from this game than our players and the point about us being a "better team" is almost an irrelevance when measured against the relative ages and experiences of the two teams. Fair to say that Arsenal were focussed primarily on player development last night were as we were simply focussed on winning! (PS Arsenals U18 team containing several U16 players recently beat our U18 team 7-0. Probably the reason several of them have been elevated to the U23 team to 'stretch' their development and properly challenge them....which is surely the primary purpose of player development...???) 13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lgfualol Posted 2 October 2018 Share Posted 2 October 2018 1 hour ago, Foxy-Lady said: Just to add my 'usual' feedback to allow a little perspective on this game/result before the LCFC media-spin machine kicks-in... Avg age of LCFC starting X1 = 23.9 years old (251 PL appearances ; 881 Senior appearances ; 77 full International caps) Avg age of Arsenal starting X1 = 18.2 years old (ZERO PL appearances ; ZERO Snr appearances ; ZERO full international caps) If you exclude the 2 GKs as Jakupovic age slightly distorts the picture, avg ages of the starting players on pitch were 22.9 Vs 17.6 accordingly Absolutely mad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 2 October 2018 Share Posted 2 October 2018 1 hour ago, Foxy-Lady said: Just to add my 'usual' feedback to allow a little perspective on this game/result before the LCFC media-spin machine kicks-in... Avg age of LCFC starting X1 = 23.9 years old (251 PL appearances ; 881 Senior appearances ; 77 full International caps) Avg age of Arsenal starting X1 = 18.2 years old (ZERO PL appearances ; ZERO Snr appearances ; ZERO full international caps) If you exclude the 2 GKs as Jakupovic age slightly distorts the picture, avg ages of the starting players on pitch were 22.9 Vs 17.6 accordingly So in summary, a significantly older (+5 years!) and vastly more experienced LCFC U23 team lost to Arsenals U18 team. I think the key message here for me would be that Arsenals younger players would have learned far more from this game than our players and the point about us being a "better team" is almost an irrelevance when measured against the relative ages and experiences of the two teams. Fair to say that Arsenal were focussed primarily on player development last night were as we were simply focussed on winning! (PS Arsenals U18 team containing several U16 players recently beat our U18 team 7-0. Probably the reason several of them have been elevated to the U23 team to 'stretch' their development and properly challenge them....which is surely the primary purpose of player development...???) Yeah, barely any of our 17-19 year olds are getting a chance at U23 level. Conor Tee who has been raved about has featured once and then gone back to the U18's I think. Who gives a shit if we finish top 3 in the U23's with Benalouane, King and other has beens each game. Beaglehole seems to prioritize the league position over long term benefit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 2 October 2018 Share Posted 2 October 2018 11 hours ago, thereeldeel said: I thought choudhry had a very good game. Agree that change is needed, first team or loan...23's football notorious for stagnating growth. 'Somewhat hanging'? Confused?? Agree. I thought Hamza had a really good game and looked a class above the other players out there. 1 hour ago, Foxy-Lady said: Just to add my 'usual' feedback to allow a little perspective on this game/result before the LCFC media-spin machine kicks-in... Avg age of LCFC starting X1 = 23.9 years old (251 PL appearances ; 881 Senior appearances ; 77 full International caps) Avg age of Arsenal starting X1 = 18.2 years old (ZERO PL appearances ; ZERO Snr appearances ; ZERO full international caps) If you exclude the 2 GKs as Jakupovic age slightly distorts the picture, avg ages of the starting players on pitch were 22.9 Vs 17.6 accordingly So in summary, a significantly older (+5 years!) and vastly more experienced LCFC U23 team lost to Arsenals U18 team. I think the key message here for me would be that Arsenals younger players would have learned far more from this game than our players and the point about us being a "better team" is almost an irrelevance when measured against the relative ages and experiences of the two teams. Fair to say that Arsenal were focussed primarily on player development last night were as we were simply focussed on winning! (PS Arsenals U18 team containing several U16 players recently beat our U18 team 7-0. Probably the reason several of them have been elevated to the U23 team to 'stretch' their development and properly challenge them....which is surely the primary purpose of player development...???) I understand your point and you do make the same point all the time. Personally I think that Arsenal should use the games how they see fit. It's not an under 19s league and I'm glad of that. I wonder where all the Arsenal 20 - 23 year olds play a decent game of football when they can't get in the U23s because it's full of talented youngsters and they can't get in the first team because it's full of old pros. I agree with playing some of our older players to help the youngsters, it would be better if we could sell Benny, Simmo and Jako but since we can't I don't mind an occasional appearance. i think it's good for the younger players to have someone like Kingy in there. That will help them more watching our 18 year olds play. Arsenal sound like they have a system of superstars - shame that after 19 they all have to go somewhere else to play football and a shame (but not really) that their first team is really not any better than ours. The PRIMARY purpose of player development is to improve OUR first team or OUR bank balance. if you think it's to make every player better for any other reason you're in the wrong sport and the wrong league. Maybe Chelsea love seeing their youth rejects suceed at other prem teams, like Manure must have loved their youth rejects suceeding with Leicester and maybe in the future Arsenal will too, but somehow I don't think that's their primary aim. Again, personally, I like to watch and enjoy the matches and a weak 17 yo who is out of his depth would not achieve that aim. A bit like watching Benny out of his depth in the U23s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 2 October 2018 Share Posted 2 October 2018 It really is a joke from us to be honest. It's no wonder we seldom actually bring players through and no wonder a lot end up not fulfilling their potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 2 October 2018 Share Posted 2 October 2018 They need to restructure this league system (again). We shouldn't be getting away with naming a side like that. How is that meant to supplement the development when you can get away with doing that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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