Nicolo Barella Posted 19 November 2019 Share Posted 19 November 2019 To be honest I think Walsh is a bit full of it, in this article. Man Utd would be in a much worse place if they had signed Trippier instead of Wan-Bissaka. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 19 November 2019 Share Posted 19 November 2019 22 hours ago, los dedos said: Article from Rob Tanner about Steve Walsh Great article, thanks for sharing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Markyblue Posted 19 November 2019 Share Posted 19 November 2019 (edited) I think walsh done a good job here but he thought he had out grown us unfortunately for him the opposite has resulted. Edited 19 November 2019 by Markyblue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 19 November 2019 Share Posted 19 November 2019 https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/would-you-take-back-steve-walsh.108621/ They're not having it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LC/FC Posted 19 November 2019 Share Posted 19 November 2019 25 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said: https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/would-you-take-back-steve-walsh.108621/ They're not having it! After Moyes they got in Martinez. After that disaster they brought in Koeman and ruined him, then hired Allardyce to steady the ship. Making good choices at board level isn't Everton's forté. They're so stuck in the 80's though. Allardyce??? Progressive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stadt Posted 19 November 2019 Share Posted 19 November 2019 They over promoted him to DoF, he's been an a scout for almost his whole career. That interview is a bit self-congratulatory but the players Everton bought in were decent enough (bar Klaasen) but didn't really fit in with how they played. 1 July 2017 CB Nathangelo Markelo Volendam Undisclosed [3] 1 July 2017 AM Davy Klaassen Ajax £23,600,000 [4] 1 July 2017 LW Henry Onyekuru Eupen £6,800,000 [5] 1 July 2017 GK Jordan Pickford Sunderland £25,000,000 [6] 3 July 2017 CB Michael Keane Burnley £25,000,000 [7] 3 July 2017 ST Sandro Ramírez Málaga CF £5,200,000 [8] 5 July 2017 FW Boris Mathis Metz Free [9] 7 July 2017 RW Josh Bowler Queens Park Rangers £1,500,000 [10] 9 July 2017 FW Wayne Rooney Manchester United Free [11] 17 July 2017 RB Cuco Martina Southampton Free [12] 27 July 2017 CB Lewis Gibson Newcastle United Undisclosed [13] 16 August 2017 AM Gylfi Sigurðsson Swansea City £40,000,000 [14] 31 August 2017 CM Dennis Adeniran Fulham Undisclosed [15] 31 August 2017 AM Nikola Vlašić Hajduk Split Undisclosed [16] 5 January 2018 FW Cenk Tosun Beşiktaş £27,500,000 [17] 17 January 2018 RW Theo Walcott Arsenal £20,000,000 [18] Pickford, Keane, Sigurdsson and Walcott all start now. Rooney was a decent enough signing for the time and it's only Tosun that's been a total flop. Their recruitment has been swine wank since as well so it's not all down to Walsh. Koeman completely shat his kecks and they had David Unsworth and Allardyce manning too so any recruitment looks poor when you have clowns like they do at the helm. We've had 2 objectively bad summer windows since we've been promoted because we have our house in order, they don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LC/FC Posted 19 November 2019 Share Posted 19 November 2019 4 minutes ago, Stadt said: They over promoted him to DoF, he's been an a scout for almost his whole career. That interview is a bit self-congratulatory but the players Everton bought in were decent enough (bar Klaasen) but didn't really fit in with how they played. 1 July 2017 CB Nathangelo Markelo Volendam Undisclosed [3] 1 July 2017 AM Davy Klaassen Ajax £23,600,000 [4] 1 July 2017 LW Henry Onyekuru Eupen £6,800,000 [5] 1 July 2017 GK Jordan Pickford Sunderland £25,000,000 [6] 3 July 2017 CB Michael Keane Burnley £25,000,000 [7] 3 July 2017 ST Sandro Ramírez Málaga CF £5,200,000 [8] 5 July 2017 FW Boris Mathis Metz Free [9] 7 July 2017 RW Josh Bowler Queens Park Rangers £1,500,000 [10] 9 July 2017 FW Wayne Rooney Manchester United Free [11] 17 July 2017 RB Cuco Martina Southampton Free [12] 27 July 2017 CB Lewis Gibson Newcastle United Undisclosed [13] 16 August 2017 AM Gylfi Sigurðsson Swansea City £40,000,000 [14] 31 August 2017 CM Dennis Adeniran Fulham Undisclosed [15] 31 August 2017 AM Nikola Vlašić Hajduk Split Undisclosed [16] 5 January 2018 FW Cenk Tosun Beşiktaş £27,500,000 [17] 17 January 2018 RW Theo Walcott Arsenal £20,000,000 [18] Pickford, Keane, Sigurdsson and Walcott all start now. Rooney was a decent enough signing for the time and it's only Tosun that's been a total flop. Their recruitment has been swine wank since as well so it's not all down to Walsh. Koeman completely shat his kecks and they had David Unsworth and Allardyce manning too so any recruitment looks poor when you have clowns like they do at the helm. We've had 2 objectively bad summer windows since we've been promoted because we have our house in order, they don't. That's why I said their board isn't good. Also their mentality as a club is still stuck in that 80's shit house Howard Kendall times. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langston Posted 19 November 2019 Share Posted 19 November 2019 4 minutes ago, Stadt said: They over promoted him to DoF, he's been an a scout for almost his whole career. That interview is a bit self-congratulatory but the players Everton bought in were decent enough (bar Klaasen) but didn't really fit in with how they played. 1 July 2017 CB Nathangelo Markelo Volendam Undisclosed [3] 1 July 2017 AM Davy Klaassen Ajax £23,600,000 [4] 1 July 2017 LW Henry Onyekuru Eupen £6,800,000 [5] 1 July 2017 GK Jordan Pickford Sunderland £25,000,000 [6] 3 July 2017 CB Michael Keane Burnley £25,000,000 [7] 3 July 2017 ST Sandro Ramírez Málaga CF £5,200,000 [8] 5 July 2017 FW Boris Mathis Metz Free [9] 7 July 2017 RW Josh Bowler Queens Park Rangers £1,500,000 [10] 9 July 2017 FW Wayne Rooney Manchester United Free [11] 17 July 2017 RB Cuco Martina Southampton Free [12] 27 July 2017 CB Lewis Gibson Newcastle United Undisclosed [13] 16 August 2017 AM Gylfi Sigurðsson Swansea City £40,000,000 [14] 31 August 2017 CM Dennis Adeniran Fulham Undisclosed [15] 31 August 2017 AM Nikola Vlašić Hajduk Split Undisclosed [16] 5 January 2018 FW Cenk Tosun Beşiktaş £27,500,000 [17] 17 January 2018 RW Theo Walcott Arsenal £20,000,000 [18] Pickford, Keane, Sigurdsson and Walcott all start now. Rooney was a decent enough signing for the time and it's only Tosun that's been a total flop. Their recruitment has been swine wank since as well so it's not all down to Walsh. Koeman completely shat his kecks and they had David Unsworth and Allardyce manning too so any recruitment looks poor when you have clowns like they do at the helm. We've had 2 objectively bad summer windows since we've been promoted because we have our house in order, they don't. Pickford, Keane, Sigurdsson and Walcott starting doesn't necessarily mean they were good signings though - they might just have nobody better at the moment, and their current plight suggests they aren't much cop. Keane isn't rated by their fans whatsoever and whilst Sigurdsson and Walcott (in particular the former) should be more than handy players for a side at Everton's level, the fees dished out are daft. Gylfi is proven but was approaching 30, and surely Arsenal would have been pleased to have Walcott off their books to free up some room, let alone being given 20 million quid for the privilege? I think Tosun for the best part of 30 million represents worse value than Slimani. Walsh was sensational here and it's impossible to determine who had the final say on transfers at Everton, they clearly see him as a scapegoat, but his time there was from, I don't think it can be reflected as anything but. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stadt Posted 19 November 2019 Share Posted 19 November 2019 12 minutes ago, Langston said: Pickford, Keane, Sigurdsson and Walcott starting doesn't necessarily mean they were good signings though - they might just have nobody better at the moment, and their current plight suggests they aren't much cop. Keane isn't rated by their fans whatsoever and whilst Sigurdsson and Walcott (in particular the former) should be more than handy players for a side at Everton's level, the fees dished out are daft. Gylfi is proven but was approaching 30, and surely Arsenal would have been pleased to have Walcott off their books to free up some room, let alone being given 20 million quid for the privilege? I think Tosun for the best part of 30 million represents worse value than Slimani. Walsh was sensational here and it's impossible to determine who had the final say on transfers at Everton, they clearly see him as a scapegoat, but his time there was from, I don't think it can be reflected as anything but. I agree, especially about the fees but considering they made shit signings before and have made shit signings since, attributing the blame to Walsh is convenient for them 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post urban.spaceman Posted 19 November 2019 Popular Post Share Posted 19 November 2019 19 minutes ago, Stadt said: They over promoted him to DoF, he's been an a scout for almost his whole career. That interview is a bit self-congratulatory but the players Everton bought in were decent enough (bar Klaasen) but didn't really fit in with how they played. 1 July 2017 CB Nathangelo Markelo Volendam Undisclosed [3] 1 July 2017 AM Davy Klaassen Ajax £23,600,000 [4] 1 July 2017 LW Henry Onyekuru Eupen £6,800,000 [5] 1 July 2017 GK Jordan Pickford Sunderland £25,000,000 [6] 3 July 2017 CB Michael Keane Burnley £25,000,000 [7] 3 July 2017 ST Sandro Ramírez Málaga CF £5,200,000 [8] 5 July 2017 FW Boris Mathis Metz Free [9] 7 July 2017 RW Josh Bowler Queens Park Rangers £1,500,000 [10] 9 July 2017 FW Wayne Rooney Manchester United Free [11] 17 July 2017 RB Cuco Martina Southampton Free [12] 27 July 2017 CB Lewis Gibson Newcastle United Undisclosed [13] 16 August 2017 AM Gylfi Sigurðsson Swansea City £40,000,000 [14] 31 August 2017 CM Dennis Adeniran Fulham Undisclosed [15] 31 August 2017 AM Nikola Vlašić Hajduk Split Undisclosed [16] 5 January 2018 FW Cenk Tosun Beşiktaş £27,500,000 [17] 17 January 2018 RW Theo Walcott Arsenal £20,000,000 [18] Pickford, Keane, Sigurdsson and Walcott all start now. Rooney was a decent enough signing for the time and it's only Tosun that's been a total flop. Their recruitment has been swine wank since as well so it's not all down to Walsh. Koeman completely shat his kecks and they had David Unsworth and Allardyce manning too so any recruitment looks poor when you have clowns like they do at the helm. We've had 2 objectively bad summer windows since we've been promoted because we have our house in order, they don't. Those are the two issues that sum Everton up for me. Walsh was a success here because he was a crucial part of a team that started with a blank state (twice) and spent years, NOT money, building up a culture within the club that connects with the owners, staff and players. Everton brought him in as DOF expecting him to work miracles immediately. Here's £180m to play with Steve, do your thing. Oh, and we're not going to listen to you or trust your years of experience and track record of unearthing world class players. They simply don't have their house in order. If they'd had a bit of patience and some ****ing respect for the guy, he might have been able to recreate that winning culture there. Instead they turned him into a scapegoat for all their problems. They'll never learn. **** em. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SO1 Posted 19 November 2019 Share Posted 19 November 2019 (edited) 17 hours ago, st albans fox said: Having looked though the relevant thread on the certain forum, there is little time for SW and they generally don’t believe what he’s said to tanner To be fair, do they ever? Football forums are notorius for looking for scapegoats based on questionable evidence. Edited 19 November 2019 by SO1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 19 November 2019 Share Posted 19 November 2019 6 minutes ago, SO1 said: To be fair, do they ever. Football forums are notorius for looking for scapegoats based on questionable evidence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicolo Barella Posted 19 November 2019 Share Posted 19 November 2019 12 minutes ago, SO1 said: To be fair, do they ever? Football forums are notorius for looking for scapegoats based on questionable evidence. It's funny, I sometimes catch myself doing this with zero cognitive dissonance whatsoever. Like "this shitty piece of evidence doesn't fit my narrative so fck it, but THIS one does so I choose to believe it." It doesn't bother me at all whenever I'm selfaware enough to realise... This says a lot about our society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SO1 Posted 19 November 2019 Share Posted 19 November 2019 4 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: Sorry to have bruised your precious ego. But my eyes have witnessed to much "Truth" in the 10 or so years of reading football forums. That and the Liverpool/Everton Love Fest that I witnessed for three years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deep blue Posted 19 November 2019 Share Posted 19 November 2019 2 hours ago, Markyblue said: I think walsh done a good job here but he thought he had out grown us unfortunately for him the opposite has resulted. Have to weigh in the possibility that he could see the problems that would come with Ranieri in his second season, and didn't want to be a part of it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 19 November 2019 Share Posted 19 November 2019 11 minutes ago, SO1 said: Sorry to have bruised your precious ego. But my eyes have witnessed to much "Truth" in the 10 or so years of reading football forums. That and the Liverpool/Everton Love Fest that I witnessed for three years. Fear not, my flippancy knows no bounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Yes Posted 20 November 2019 Popular Post Share Posted 20 November 2019 Haven’t heard that one before. 1 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 20 November 2019 Share Posted 20 November 2019 5 minutes ago, Yes said: Haven’t heard that one before. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Xen Posted 20 November 2019 Popular Post Share Posted 20 November 2019 7 minutes ago, Yes said: Haven’t heard that one before. "Imagine Mourinho with all these players who play a very different style to how Mourinho likes his teams to play" 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballwipe Posted 20 November 2019 Share Posted 20 November 2019 16 minutes ago, Yes said: Haven’t heard that one before. They will just not learn their lesson, will they? Poor thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban fox Posted 20 November 2019 Share Posted 20 November 2019 15 minutes ago, Yes said: Haven’t heard that one before. What they fail to realise is that half of those may well be gone by the end of the season, and the rest are quite frankly a bit sh*t. In fact one or two of them fall in both camps. They should brace themselves for incoming bids from us for Son and I would take Moura as a back up to Vards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 20 November 2019 Share Posted 20 November 2019 18 minutes ago, Yes said: Haven’t heard that one before. Revisionist crap. Chelsea are in 3rd not us.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 20 November 2019 Share Posted 20 November 2019 31 minutes ago, Yes said: Haven’t heard that one before. hilarious ……………. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkingfox Posted 20 November 2019 Share Posted 20 November 2019 Shows how far we have come when they need to challenge us 😂😂 they will be lucky to get above Arsenal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4everfox Posted 20 November 2019 Share Posted 20 November 2019 4 hours ago, Yes said: Haven’t heard that one before. Might help if you name more than one player (Son) that would get in our starting team 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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