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Leicester ride their luck to win....

 

 

If it were  liverpool...

 

 

Liverpool toy with Brighton on way to empathetic win

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5 hours ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

I’m astounded that’s been published by Sky. It reads like a homemade blog littered with advertisements.

Must have been her first assignment (and hopefully last). Utter tripe.

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On 24/11/2019 at 12:04, urban.spaceman said:

 

Using my 'as a' joker card for the year when I say... as an Irishman, I find these JOE media 'gas' 'ah hear lads' types an absolute cringe of a breed. 

 

Nice idea of a prediction game though for fun.

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7 hours ago, urban.spaceman said:

 

 

The Chelsea fella is correct but he gets stick for it. Rodgers is loyal to nobody. He would leave us for United in summer 2020 or 2021 without hesitation, irrespective how bad their playing squad is.

 

Goldbridge reasoning for not wanting Pochettino is strange though. So what if he doesn't play wingers? Spurs has been one of the most attractive sides to watch in the last 5 years.

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2 hours ago, Koke said:

 

The Chelsea fella is correct but he gets stick for it. Rodgers is loyal to nobody. He would leave us for United in summer 2020 or 2021 without hesitation, irrespective how bad their playing squad is.

 

Goldbridge reasoning for not wanting Pochettino is strange though. So what if he doesn't play wingers? Spurs has been one of the most attractive sides to watch in the last 5 years.

Yup..Brendan will win the PL. with Leicester...and leave for a "bigger"..:dunno: club...( Not qualified for Europe) and miss out on CL,

weeellll its a bigger Club innit..!!

Silly me..he did leave Celtic..!!! for a nobodies reserve team......

Aint life grand....:teehee:

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4 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

I'm sorry but I'm getting bored of reading this bollocks. 

 

Rodgers is just a career manager, that's all it is. He's not going to stay here for twenty years, no, but he's also a professional that's not going to run immediately off to every other club that asks like some ADHD cocker spaniel puppy. 

 

I'm getting bored of this sensationalist narrative of Rodgers being the world's worst mercenary. Its over the top and paranoid. It also falls in to the unfair trap of assuming the man is an idiot. 

 

He's not thick, he's a very bright football man. He's not going to abandon one of the highest profile projects in football, one that's going very well, drawing him plaudits left and right, with a buoyant squad en route for Champions League football for the biggest poison chalice in the sport that's languishing in mid table in an absolute mess.

 

If any good manager was going to, they wouldn't have Ole right now. 

 

All that is nice but all I'm saying people shouldn't lose their shit if he leaves us mid season or if he forces a move away from the club. 

 

Man Utd are what they are. But any manager worth anything fancies himself to turn that club around like Klopp has for Liverpool. It's not bollocks. Its reality.

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20 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

And Liverpool were in nowhere near the mess United are now plus Klopp was out of work, having left Dortmund six months prior. 

 

Mate, come off it, Liverpool had a team with Moreno, Sakho, Joe Allen etc and losing 6-1 to Stoke whilst finish about 9th. 

 

As for BR, hes already left a club mid season. And yes I know its SPL blah blah but he did do it. Im not saying he would leave us this March but at some point in couple of years he will move on and many on here wont understand why he is moving to a club below us in the table.

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Of course there are clubs that Rodgers would eventually leave us for, I just don't think that would happen for at least another season. He does seem to have this reputation of changing clubs like kegs which is astounding given what's actually happened.

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I agree media sensational crap. No one expects him to stay forever, he may stay for two more seasons if things turn out well. Why would you move now to a different club in trouble and ruin your reputation when you are looking to be successful at a major club. He is far from stupid and has many more years in management he will go when the time is right, if he proves he can do big things here they will be queing up for him 

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If BR left to united or Arsenal and failed he could be done for any massive club again. Might be best to wait for the right situation. He is smart man and knows whatever is best for his career.

 

I definitely don't expect loyalty from any manager these days especially when they are doing well. When you're flying high, everyone wants ya. If he decides to become a "Fergie" type then i hope its with us as long as the results last!

 

Right  now, i am just thinking about this season. We need liverpool to slip on some banana peels!

 

 

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10 minutes ago, Jattdogg said:

Right  now, i am just thinking about this season. We need liverpool to slip on some banana peels!

 

 

 

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12 minutes ago, Jattdogg said:

If BR left to united or Arsenal and failed he could be done for any massive club again. Might be best to wait for the right situation. He is smart man and knows whatever is best for his career.

 

This. 

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2 hours ago, Finnegan said:

It's not reality. Reality is way more boring. 

 

Reality is Rodgers has a contract and can't just leave on a whim. Reality is he's never been unprofessional to force a move, in fact reality is I can't think of many succesful managers who have. 

 

What you're talking about isn't reality, it's tabloid gossip drama. 

 

And Liverpool were in nowhere near the mess United are now plus Klopp was out of work, having left Dortmund six months prior. 

Have heard there is quite a sizeable release clause in it which may put people off. Hes also on 5m a year which for a manager is quite a lot and is our 2nd / 3rd highest paid employee.

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1 minute ago, Abrasive fox said:

Have heard there is quite a sizeable release clause in it which may put people off. Hes also on 6m a year which for a manager is quite a lot and is our 2nd / 3rd highest paid employee.

I'd guess Schmeichel and Vardy are the two paid more?

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2 hours ago, Houdini Logic said:

3 years at Celtic

3 years at Liverpool (4 seasons)

2 years at Swansea

 

5 jobs in his managerial career - 2 of which he was sacked from.

And so that leaves moving on from his first ever job in management where he spent 6 months, leaving Swansea for Liverpool - a chance that after only 4 years in management may not come around again - and moving from Celtic, where he had won everything he could 3 times over in a league where there was absolutely nowhere to go.

 

Hardly a mercenary

I posted something similar the last time this topic came up (which seems to happen every week!).

 

Even the Celtic job - he was riding high with them and the only reason he's being accused of disloyalty is because of the timing of his departure as they were in the midst of the run-in to the treble-treble. If Puel had been sacked early November (as was rumoured, circumstances obviously changed things) and Rodgers had joined then then a lot of this disloyal nonsense would have been avoided, save for a handful of Celtic fans who cant accept that the PL is a step up.

 

Every job he's left (of his own accord) to date has been a pretty clear step up to progress his career with a tougher challenge. From Leicester, if we keep up our current standard (or even get better!) then there are very few jobs which would offer him that kind of step up. He won't go back to Liverpool and Arsenal/United/Spurs are currently a step down and a poisoned chalice. If Mourinho turns it around at Spurs then they won't be in the market for a manager, and Arsenal/United will sack/hire at least once more before we'd even consider letting anyone talk to Rodgers about a move. Man City could potentially be interested when Guardiola leaves and Chelsea might be keen, but Lampard looks to be doing a good job so far, but other than those there aren't any other domestic jobs I can imagine him being interested in. Abroad, the big sides in each division would probably turn his head - especially in Spain - but they don't tend to go for British managers very often so I think he'd have to prove himself at an even higher level (i.e. CL) to convince them to take a punt. No idea if he has any aspirations of international management, but at least at club level I don't think we have any reason to be concerned about a potential departure any time soon.

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He’s a professional. Of course he will have  an eye on his own career and salary. But I wonder where ‘satisfaction’ or ‘enjoyment’ sit in his thinking? In the present set-up, I would imagine both must be scoring highly? Relatively low amounts of media or supporter pressure, fabulous attitude amongst squad, as good a set of owners as he could wish to work for, money to spend, high degree of autonomy, players that are respectful and keen to learn. There’s a heck of a lot to be said for rolling up at work every day with a smile on your face. 

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16 minutes ago, Abrasive fox said:

Have heard there is quite a sizeable release clause in it which may put people off. Hes also on 5m a year which for a manager is quite a lot and is our 2nd / 3rd highest paid employee.

 

We paid £8.8m to get him from Celtic so I imagine a release clause may be around the £25m mark. 

 

I honestly believe he'll stay here just as long as he believes that players aren't leaving, the squad continues to develop and he has the buying power to keep improving. Once he feels he's taken the club as far as he can he will probably change his mind but if he feels this team is only getting better then he'll want to stay.

 

He probably rules the roost here more than at a bigger club and I would imagine he loves the environment he works in with the new training ground on the horizon and fantastic young players. A Champions League spot minimum and maybe even a trophy then hopefully he can persuade the players to stay a bit longer and I think he'll be happy to stay if that's the case. He can always pick a job a year or two later if he feels we have plateaued. There's a lot to be said for staying in a job that you love with great people around you and that goes for both BR and the players. 

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